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Re: Adding question to +join group

 

Thank you!

I will investigate that one.
best wishes
Judith

On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 11:32, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 06:28 AM, <judithupton60@...> wrote:
Is there a way in which I can add a question for potential subscribers to answer please?
Not like YG had.? For the basics of the method used here, check /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

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Re: Adding question to +join group

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 06:28 AM, <judithupton60@...> wrote:
Is there a way in which I can add a question for potential subscribers to answer please?
Not like YG had.? For the basics of the method used here, check /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

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Re: Making members' email addresses invisible

 

I am sorry to say that you are wrong John.
I read my group mail as an email - with both yahoo and io groups.? And I can assure you that in gmail webmail and reading in my email client the email address of the sender of both is visible (I just double checked with a yahoo group post I received a couple of hours ago).

The choice is to hide the member list from members.? In my groups the members are only visible to owner and moderator, some group owners choose to have the member list visible to all.

Barbara

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:41 AM John Prescott <jprescott@...> wrote:
Thanks for all your comments. It is clear it's not possible to make subscribers' email addresses invisible to other subscribers. I'm interested to hear that has had the situation assessed for GDPR compliance.

I'd just like to comment on one things that Duane said about YahooGroups. In my experience as Owner of a YG group, members' email addresses were NOT shown in their posts and therefore were not visible to anyone except to moderators and owners. Ditto the members' list, showing addresses, on our YG 'site', was only available to mods and owners, NOT to members.

Cheers
John

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 05:55 PM, Duane wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:05 PM, John Prescott wrote:
This is the first group provider I have experienced where members' email addresses are displayed to other members by default.
Even YG did this, it's the nature of email lists (forums are a different animal.)? Groups.io has had lawyers investigate GDPR and they believe that it's in full compliance.


Re: Hoping there is an option/alternative for transferring a small non profit (tax exempt) organization's data from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io, without having to spend $110.00 on a one year membership

 

Why not do the transfer yourself? It takes a little time, but it is doable, especially if you have no need to transfer Messages. You've done the hard work - setting up a community in Groups.IO. You have a small number of subscribers, so getting individuals to switch should be straightforward.


Adding question to +join group

 

Hi
I'm brand new to group io although I do know Yahoo reasonably well.
Is there a way in which I can add a question for potential subscribers to answer please?? Giving some indication as to why they wish to join the group, ?

regards
Judith


Re: Making members' email addresses invisible

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 05:41 AM, John Prescott wrote:
In my experience as Owner of a YG group, members' email addresses were NOT shown in their posts
They may not be shown in their posts online here.? It depends on the setting you've chosen, as Gilbert mentioned.? To clarify, when I said YG did it, I was referring to the messages they sent out, not the archive.

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Re: Making members' email addresses invisible

 

Thanks for all your comments. It is clear it's not possible to make subscribers' email addresses invisible to other subscribers. I'm interested to hear that G.IO has had the situation assessed for GDPR compliance.

I'd just like to comment on one things that Duane said about YahooGroups. In my experience as Owner of a YG group, members' email addresses were NOT shown in their posts and therefore were not visible to anyone except to moderators and owners. Ditto the members' list, showing addresses, on our YG 'site', was only available to mods and owners, NOT to members.

Cheers
John


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 05:55 PM, Duane wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:05 PM, John Prescott wrote:
This is the first group provider I have experienced where members' email addresses are displayed to other members by default.
Even YG did this, it's the nature of email lists (forums are a different animal.)? Groups.io has had lawyers investigate GDPR and they believe that it's in full compliance.


Re: Able to edit reject message heading?

 

Niman,

One question - is there a way to change the subject which appears when
a message is rejected?
Yes.

In the Member Notices tab of your group's Settings page, create one or more of type "Rejected Message" - these become templates you can select from a drop-list to pre-fill that Rejection note.

But to the point, the Member Notice has a Subject field that is used for the outbound notice in place of the default Subject.

After you've selected one of the prepared notices you can edit the content of the Rejection box. I usually have a few prepared Notices to cover the most common reasons for rejecting a message. Those edits won't be sent, so I use that as a way to further customize the note to the case at hand.

It is a hidden and clumsy way to do it, and I've suggested (in beta) improving it so you can actually see / edit the Subject when working with the Rejection dialog, but it hasn't happened yet.

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Re: My little group's transfer saga #transfer

 
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I have seen several posters here on this Group Managers forum claim that Groups.io overpromised and underdelivered with regards to speed of transfers of groups from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io. I have a strong background in the IS/IT field (among other things, I managed a large software development department in the corporate world for many years) and from my perspective, I have seen zero evidence that Groups.io overpromised and underdelivered regarding the speed of the aforementioned transfers.

Here is a recap of my experience. I purchased Premium Yearly subscriptions for 7 groups here on Oct. 18 (all at the older $110/yr rate) and initiated transfers of 19 groups at Yahoo Groups into them starting early on the morning (East Coast US time zone) of Oct. 19th, and finishing the last of the transfer requests by late on the 19th or early on Oct,. 20th.

In my experience, I feel that I was never promised a particular speed for the transfers, and from my perspective, I feel that that my numerous transfers have been proceeding at a reasonable and smooth pace, particularly given the challenges facing Mark and his staff at Groups,io, including the fact that they were hit with a unimaginably massive influx of of new customers, almost all of them wanting transfers from groups at Yahoo Groups.

The first three transfer requests that I had filed early on Oct. 19th ended up on what was, at that time, only a very short queue (it has since grown massively in length, for obvious reasons), and each of the three were completed by Mark on Oct. 21. The remainder of my 19 transfers, each of which had been submitted by me significantly later on Oct. 19th (and one or two perhaps were not completely submitted until early on Oct. 20), ended up much further back in the queue, with their starting queue positions ranging from around 400 to 800.?

After I witnessed the very understandable price increase from $110 to $220 for at least the first year of a Premium Yearly subscription to cover more fairly the costs of handling transfers, and bearing in mind that I had paid only $110 apiece for each of my 7 Premium Yearly groups, I decided that I wanted to throw some additional funds toward Groups.io to help reimburse them more equitably for all of the work involved in performing transfers from Yahoo Groups, and to help to ensure the long-term sustainability of the company, and so in short order I upgraded seven of my remaining transfers to Expedited status for an additional fee of $200 per transfer. Each of those 7 Expedited transfers was completed within 50 minutes of my having elevated the transfer to Expedited status.

Now, if a 50 minute completion time from the moment that I elevated each transfer to Expedited sounds unreasonably short and speedy to you, it may help to bear in mind that six of the seven transfers involved Yahoo Groups that had memberships of 350 or fewer members, while one outlier group had a member count of about 2,000 members, and all of the transfers consisted solely of transfer of membership roster and message archives, because none of the groups had any files, photos or databases associated with them (well, to be more precise, one did have two photos...). It is also helpful to bear in mind that each of the 7 transfers that I had elevated to Expedited status had already been waiting in the queue at step 3 of 4.

As of this moment in time, of my 19 original transfers, I still have 9 transfers in progress that are not yet completed, and their present placing in the queue at step 3 ranges from about 320 to somewhere in the low 600s. In general, I see each of them moving down the queue by anywhere from 18 to 43 positions per 24 hour period.?


Re: When you are in Stage 3

 

Suzan,

I am not at that point, yet. But as it gets closer to Dec 14, I might
pay the extra.
At Step 3 December 14th is no longer a cutoff for you: your group content has already been copied out of Yahoo and is safe. You're only waiting to have the content loaded into your Groups.io group.

Shal


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Re: Hotmail/Outlook email

 

Ken,

from [email protected]
Note that most members' email addresses are sent unmodified in the From field, so a test on the From field won't work for them. (Unless you list them all).

If possible, use another field, like Sender, List-ID, or even a match on the group's Subject tag ("[GMF]" here).

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Re: Suddenly Not Receiving Owner Messages #bug

 

Ann,

Starting late this afternoon EDT, I stopped receiving owner messages.
Check your Subscription settings, Owner Email section, down at the bottom of the page. You might not be set to receive All (owner) Emails.

Otherwise, check your email service for an errant Spam filter.

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Re: Files section folder hierarchy preserved when group transferred?

Martin Best
 

Cal,

If you click on the Move (scissors) icon in Files, it will show you the folder structure in your Groups.io group.


Re: How to find status page for transfer

 

I figured out my problem. My transfer was blocked because of a 2018 request to transfer the same Yahoo group. It was still pending and I had to ask the person who requested the prior transfer to remove the request

Thanks?for everyone's help here

John Ladd


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:52 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 02:50 PM, John Curran Ladd wrote:
I still see only empty screen next to "View existing ..."
Then you haven''t initiated a transfer.? Follow the steps at /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/detailed_instructions_on_how/39832225 carefully.

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  • We expect members to post and act responsibly. Please respect your fellow members' time and attention: strive to be clear, concise and courteous. Our subject matter naturally includes matters of opinion; if you happen to disagree with another member please do so without being rude. Personal attacks are not allowed. Solicitations are off topic and will be deleted without comment. Listing your groups in your signature is perfectly acceptable, but just make sure there's also on-topic content in your post.

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Re: How to Bulk UnModerate all 3000 Transfered Members #moderation

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 12:57 AM, Dale Dreher wrote:
Is there a way to Bulk UnModerate all 3000 members?? I see a window showing 20 members at a time
See /g/GroupManagersForum/message/20965 on how to show more.? I would recommend 100 for this.? Select all using the upper left box, scroll to the bottom, select Change Moderation from the Action box, select Use Group Moderation Setting from the pop up, click Change.? You'd need to repeat this for each page of 100 people.? Infinite Scroll is also possible, but you'd need to scroll top to bottom to top to bottom to get them to all show on the page, selected, and changed. (It won't select the ones not showing.)

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Re: My little group's transfer saga #transfer

 

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Just a note that the download from Y! groups takes place much faster that the upload to groups.io. Mark has indicated that downloads from Y! were recently?completing within?about 24 hours after getting the go ahead to move. Uploading, on the other hand,?takes much longer to weave all the data together on the groups.io side.
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So when your group seems to be out a long way and keeps falling back by people paying the premium for immediate transfer, keep in mind that all?your data has likely already been saved, and you're just waiting for the upload process. When Mark asked for all transfer requests to be in by December 1, I suspect he's trying to give the system a cushion in case Yahoo starts to hang up and get glitchy.
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Subject: Re: [GMF] My little group's transfer saga #transfer

Brick bats and roses.? I think the switch and price jack after we signed up at $110 was over reach.? BUT BUT I must compliment on the site design and smoothness it operates.? With a couple of tweaks it would be perfect.? Writing his own code vs buying a package off the shelf paid off.? Quick access off a Cloud network.

The system is VERY nice.?

No choice but to wait it out.
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How to Bulk UnModerate all 3000 Transfered Members #moderation

Dale Dreher
 

my group was number 466 to transfer.? today I paid the $200 and got transfered within an hour.. go figure.

anysays How do I Bulk Un-Moderate... when all 3000 members were entered into the new Groups.IO group the are all set to NuM or ( Moderated till 1st Message approved).. I don't want to approve the first message of 3000 people.. so..

Is there a way to Bulk UnModerate all 3000 members?? I see a window showing 20 members at a time... nooooooooo can't do that, will take days..?

how to bulk UnModerate.. I want to give Every Existing member a clean slate.

Pleaase.? ? ? ?dale@...m


Re: My little group's transfer saga #transfer

John B
 

Timeline is about the same for my 3 groups.? It's a bit disappointing that it takes so long, but I'm not sure they promised any faster.

Yes, the first step after the invite is accepted, and [email protected]?is made a moderator, is to copy the group off from Yahoo.? That is the only step which really needs to complete by Dec. 14.? Most of us are waiting for the content to be written to the new site (so called Step 3), which is pretty much independent of Yahoo, and has no hard schedule.