Thank you, Victoria and Bruce, for your responses.

I'm going to de-activate the Pending Subscription notice and contact prospective new members manually to ask for the required information.

Does Groups.io have an option to ask for information when the user signs up? Yahoo has this feature and it was a big time saver for my list. The answer to the question would be included in the email to approve the member. I haven't yet seen this feature in Groups.io admin.

Much appreciated,

Jesse

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On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 03:50 PM, I wrote:

I'll be the first to admit that that isn't really a solution...? but you did say "some" way.

Actually there is a way, depending on exactly what you want / need to know. If all you require is to find out how your members are distributed geographically rather than "who is where" then a poll might provide you with the answer; it could work fairly well if all or the greater majority of your subscribers are in the US, but rather less well if they are distributed around the globe.

Set up a poll on your group asking members to record in which of the following times zones they live, with a separate "question" for each of the US time zones.(Of which there are seven by my reckoning). It might be prudent to include a "None of the above" so that anyone outside the US can provide an answer; it would be impractical to include every time zone.

You should probably include in the preamble that the poll cannot be completed by email and that members will thus have to log in and use the web UI; this is the big weakness of polls because anecdotal evidence points towards there being quite a significant percentage of group members who for whatever reason cannot or will not log in and use the web UI.

Chris

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM, Jesse Nahan wrote:

I very much like this pending subscription notice. However, the prospective member gets both this pending subscription notice and the automatic confirmation notice. That seems a little messy. If there is no way to turn off the confirmation notice, then I may have to return to manually responding to each notice I get of a prospective member joining.?

Jesse -- The confirmation email (which is NOT a Member Notice) is sent to those who click the "Join This Group" button on your home page while not logged in (and I believe also in some other circumstances). This is necessary to confirm that they actually own the provided email address and want to receive group messages there. They must click on the link in that email to validate their account. It cannot be turned off, but can be avoided by using some other means to sign up (send them a Invitation, have them send a +subscribe message, etc).

The Welcome Notice ensures that new subscribers are informed that they have actually joined up before they begin to receive group messages. If you don't create one, groups.io will send a generic one. It cannot be eliminated, either.

You can inhibit sending of a Pending Subscription notice by not creating one.

See?/static/help#membernotices?for further details.

Regards,
Bruce

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 04:27 PM, Jesse Nahan wrote:

I very much like this pending subscription notice. However, the prospective member gets both this pending subscription notice and the automatic confirmation notice.

If someone applies for membership in your group the confirmation notice asks the prospective member to confirm the email address.?

That seems a little messy. If there is no way to turn off the confirmation notice, then I may have to return to manually responding to each notice I get of a prospective member joining.?

As far as I know the pending supscription notice does not got out to them before they haven?t confirmed. And you don?t approve the prospective member before you haven?t received and controlled their answer to the notice.

Are there better approaches to this common problem?

This actually goes quite smoothly according to my experiences.

Victoria

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I received a Yahoo Mail account, and I use it to log into all of my groups. There are no issues with the email address or password. I can log into the account. It's just that I have somehow lost my privileges.

I signed up for premium hone support to at least talk to a human, but they told me that the support is only for email, not Groups, so I cancelled it. It seems like I am in Limbo at the moment, and I doubt that there is anything that can be done about it. I will email Yahoo support, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Larry

Hello~

I signed up to have my group transferred from Yahoo to Groups.io this week. I'm in the step 3 of 4 phase (awaiting import). Apparently, there are 1,036 groups ahead of me! And it keeps going up, rather than down. I suspect because people are paying the additional $200 for the expedite. How long can I expect the transfer to be complete? Is it going to be longer than a week? A couple of weeks? A month, God forbid?

I understand there is a Great Migration going on, but what can kind of timeline can we expect now?

Thank you for any insight!

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 03:26 PM, Alex Maddocks wrote:

Seems they're too busy also to ever answer their emails :(

I purchased a licence for PG Offline the other day and got a response within minutes plus a further email exchange with Wilson, the creator.

Andy

I used the contact emails, sent it to both and Wilson got back to me quickly.

Diane

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:53 AM, Bonnie Hunter wrote:

I finally received email that they've accepted my invite to transfer my yahoogroup -

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But when I go to search for them as a member in my members list, nothing comes up.? Is there an easier way to find them??

Bonnie -- See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/20713?for some instructions, including screenshots.

Note that you must be the Yahoo group Owner, or a Moderator with special permissions, to do this. If you are not, find someone who is.

Or does it take some more time before they actually show up in my members list?

It shouldn't, but this *is* Yahoo Groups, so all bets are off.

Thanks for any heads up you can give. It's been a stressful week!

For a lot of people!

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 03:28 PM, Earl Novendstern wrote:

Is there some way I can check to see what time zone individual members are in?

Bruce's answer is correct unless (a) your members have put some clue about their locations in their profiles, and (b) you are prepared to do a lot of work to look at each and every profile in the hope that the information is there and then work out which time zone that location is in.?

I'll be the first to admit that that isn't really a solution...? but you did say "some" way.

Chris

Add me to the list of not receiving Owner Messages.

[Mod Note: Anyone experiencing this problem needs to click on Subscription and check both the Notifications and Owner Emails blocks for correct settings.]

Larry,
About three years ago YahooGroups required all list? owners to have a Yahoo Mail account. AS I recall they created one for me.? Then came the OATH loyalty Pledge; in retrospect loyalty is a one way street nowadays.
When YG announced the end of stored content; I tried for two days to log in to YG using the same AOL email account as list owner that I had used for seventeen years.? All my YG lists no longer showed me as a member.
Then I remembered the Yahoo Mail account, used it to log in and all my lists reappeared with full privileges.? For transfer to groups.io I used a third, different (shastasprings.com) email account to keep the message traffic separate.
All YG list owners (and moderators, in my case) received a Yahoo mail account, like it or not.
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:28 AM, Earl Novendstern wrote:

Is there some way I can check to see what time zone individual members are in??

I don't think so.

Calendar management can be a pain, not because of anything groups.io does, but just the nature of group dynamics, time zones, and even the international date line.

First, it's important to understand that time zone is an account setting, not a subscription setting. Any single group can have subscribers all over the globe. So if you were to set up a calendar entry for a meeting at noon UTC, it would show up on my calendar as occurring at 4:00 PM EDT.

Assuming all of your subscribers are local, your Default Sub Setting for time zone will be applied whenever a new subscription is set up for someone who didn't already have a groups.io account. If that person already has an account, those defaults will not be applied; and each affected subscriber will have to update his time zone manually (HINT: it's on the?/account?page=prefs?page).?

I have not actually tested every single bit of this but that's the way I understand it.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 11:12 PM, Larry wrote:

Apparently I no longer have any privileges on my own group. I don't understand since I started the group and am the only owner and have no moderators.

Larry -- When you look at your own membership record in this Yahoo group, do you have a green crown or a blue crown?

There are NO crowns. My other groups have blue crowns.

If it's green, you are a Moderator, not an Owner, no matter what the tool-tip might say.

I don't see anywhere where I can recover from this, and Yahoo is no help.

If for any reason you cannot send an invitation, or cannot promote the transfer agent to Moderator, you will have to find someone else to transfer this group.

There is nobody else. I can't see the membership list at the moment, but I did send an email to the "list-owner" and did not receive a reply. I expected that the message would come to my email address. I don't see how anyone else could be the owner, since I started the group 13 years ago, and have never had another owner or even a moderator besides me.

Larry

Bruce

Is there some way I can check to see what time zone individual members are in?? ?Thanks.

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All my privileges on my Yahoo group have disappeared. Only Yahoo could do this, because I am the sole owner/moderator. It was fine a couple weeks ago.

Larry

Susan,

OK so even if it took til say Dec, 20, all my info,
database, member, etc is already saved by IO admin?

Correct.

Everything needed from Yahoo's servers was collected in step 2.

Shal


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