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Re: Using IP addresses to identify malcontent members
Brenda,
Interestingly enough, My e-mail, Stephanie's E-mail, & Fizzpop's E-mailI'm not sure what you're looking at. I see a single field in each of those. X-Originating-IP: 255.255.255.255(number altered for no particularly good reason) Is the other one you're looking at in a Received: field? However, you don't have two IP addresses viewable in the header in thatA difference is that I almost always post by email, not from the site. Your three examples were all posted on site. Are you able to hide your IP address?Yes and no. As a Gmail user, were I to post from Gmail's web interface then my home IP address would not be revealed by Gmail. All the IP addresses in the inbound portion of the header would belong to Google. That's another limitation of using IP addresses to track malcontent members: not all email services will reveal the user's IP address to you. And another is that the malcontent can use a proxy server, if they're concerned about it and a bit technical. However, posting from Eudora on my PC, my home IP address is shown in the bottommost Received: field, on a line that shows my computer's name as well as my ISP. If you're looking in your email, the incoming Received: fields were re-written as X-Received: Shal |
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Re: Using IP addresses to identify malcontent members
Shal,
Interestingly enough, My e-mail, Stephanie's E-mail, & Fizzpop's E-mail all have a double IP Address. They have the one that is from Mark's site, (I'm presuming), and then they have their own below that. However, you don't have two IP addresses viewable in the header in that manner. Are you able to hide your IP address? Learning something new every day... Brenda |
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Using IP addresses to identify malcontent members
In beta@ message 6229: Brenda wrote:
I learned to read the IP addresses to know and identify them./g/beta/message/6229 IP addresses have two shortcomings: the same person may use multiple IP addresses, and multiple people may use the same IP address.[1] The first can come about from the person connecting using different computers (home, work, library), or with a mobile device using different WiFi locations (Starbucks, grocery store, library, home, work). It is also possible, in most cases, for a person with a home internet connection to break that connection and be assigned a different IP address. That used to be very common with dial-up connections, but now connections (and their IP address) tend to last longer (weeks, months) and ISPs often try to give you the same one back after a disconnection, rather than drawing a fresh number from the pool. The second can come about when multiple users are behind the same router/NAT. This can be as small as a home network, or larger such a dormitory, an office, a campus, or in some parts of the world even a whole city. So using an IP address for identification isn't foolproof. But, as long as you're aware of the limitations, it isn't necessarily worthless either if you can combine it with other forms of evidence. Shal 1: At least, for the IPv4 addresses that have been most used to date (usually written as a string of four small numbers combined with decimal points). In the future, as IPv6 gains usage it isn't clear to me what will happen. Instead of somewhat less than 4 billion unique addresses, the new system has something on the order of 16 quintillion (billion billion) unique addresses (speaking in U.S. terminology, where billion = 1,000,000,000). In IPv6 every computing device could be given a permanent unique address and we wouldn't even come close to running out. |
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Re: Hashtags?
Green,
1. How do I (as a moderator) assign a hashtag to a thread in my group'sOpen the thread from the Thread View, and click the "Edit Thread" button near the upper right. Then add the hashtag(s) to the thread's subject line. Click the "Update" button. 2. How do I (as a user) get a listing of all messages with a particularGo to the messages page and click on the "#HashTags" tab. Click on the date/time stamp in the "Most Recent Message" column for the particular hashtag. Shal |
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Re: Hello I am new here.....
Jeremy,
Yahoo allows me to put a footer on the daily digest, I use it forYou may have discovered an oversight. I would have thought that the "Message Footer" text (on the Settings page) would have been applied to digests also. But I'm not seeing any examples of it happening. Similarly, I would like to add a village business directory in the dailyI would say that the message footer would be the place for that, but it is plain text so the URL you provide may or may not end up clickable. Similarly I would like photos and other file attachments to be visiblePhotos and attachments to messages in the digest are available by clicking the "View This Message" link - which takes one to the site to view the message. The only way I can think of to cause a regular such message to appear in each digest would be to set it up as a calendar event that repeats daily and has a reminder. The event description (which can be HTML formatted) could have embedded photos, but it can't (yet) carry attachments. There's a TODO item for including attachments in messages posted by web, but I don't know if that would apply to event reminders. Shal |
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Re: Creating a How-To Guide for groups.io
#howtoguide
Brenda,
In here, the topic was discussed in post #'s #209, #254 (I found myI merged several related threads into this one, but not that particular thread (because it was specific to database). But I did add the #HowToGuide hashtag to it. -- Shal |
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Re: Posting not returning to message list? #bug?
Brenda,
When I posted in here, both times it took me to the page that saidHmm... It seems to be fixed if your message when your message posts immediately, but not when it is held pending moderation. Oops, an oversight I suspect. Shal |
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Re: editingposts
Brenda,
The main reason I can think of, would be if someone posted something badAs I pointed out to Louise, the Edit mechanism does the opposite of hiding what they did - it calls attention to it. /g/GroupManagersForum/message/230 -- Shal |
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Re: Creating a How-To Guide for groups.io
#howtoguide
vickie wrote:>>Brenda, You did not specify which group the message numbers ?are fromSo ?I checked the message numbers in ?both the Beta and GMF group?I can't find any of the message numbers you have listed.?
GMF ?says ?That message number does not exist. The message may have been deleted.Beta is not even telling me if there is a message available or not. Okay, doing it with more clarity: IN BETA on groups.io: Post #5878 by me (discussion of creating a manual) /g/beta/message/5878?p=,,,20,0,0,0:Created,0,,20,2,123,1427197 Post #5886. /g/beta/message?msgnum=5886 Duane talks about making wiki pages and then bringing the topic to GMF. Post #5890, /g/beta/message?msgnum=5890 Your comment about having images for use in making the help manual. Then in #5891 & #5892 we discuss bringing the topic to over here in GMFIO In GMF on groups.io Post #209 /g/GroupManagersForum/message/209?p=,,,20,0,0,0:Created,0,,20,2,54,1331101 Duane discusses us doing the documentation Post #254 (Sent a little prematurely) /g/GroupManagersForum/message?msgnum=254 Me talking about the documentation Post #255 second attempt to send the post I accidentally sent prematurely. /g/GroupManagersForum/message?msgnum=255 Hope that explains it. If you aren't typing the number in MESSAGE VIEW or EXPANDED MESSAGE VIEW, it will tell you no posts exist if you type the number in the search box. You have to be in Message View or Expanded Message view to use the numbers to search. Brenda |
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Re: editingposts
D R Stinson wrote:>>Then again, why would it matter in most cases? Just because someone missed an error in a message, why would someone else care what was initially written? That information would be wrong according to the sender anyway, which is why they'd correct it.<<
The main reason I can think of, would be if someone posted something bad or hurtful or mean to an individual in the group, and then edited it to make it seem like they hadn't done it. In my case, I would always know, because I collect & store every post in e-mail, but if the original post isn't viewable, then there would be no proof of the message originally sent if you didn't collect them like me. Hope that explains it. Brenda |
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Re: editingposts
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý> Dano wrote:>>I can see muting the previous versions of a post >?in the archives as long as the final revision stays in the same >?place in a thread.<< > > By muting in the archives, do you mean not enabling the person >?viewing via web to see the previous versions? I wouldn't want that. > > Brenda ? The post in question would just be noted as edited. A user could dig back if they wanted, but a typical person reading the thread wouldn't be bothered by all the earlier duplicate posts with errors or misstatements. The final post shown would give the intended message. ? Then again, why would it matter in most cases? Just because someone missed an error in a message, why would someone else care what was initially written? That information would be wrong according to the sender anyway, which is why they'd correct it. ? Dano |
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