On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 09:49 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

As to your earlier point I was still trying to understand the GIO history on why this hasn’t been addressed in the 18 months since Chris raised it when this happened, .the only answer I can provide is that some suggestions catch Mark's eye fairly easily; others don't. In reality there seem to be a lot of perfectly valid suggestions that fall by the wayside. If and when the dust settles I'll try to raise it again on beta.

Chris

Well, for some functions you will probably have to wait forever owed to the huge volume of inquiries. So as far my groups are concerned, I found a temporary solution by creating a new member with owner adress (email and alias). So, if I want an owner message without my personal name showing up, I log in with this new member?s address. My moderators were provided with the new address and password as well, so they can use it if it is indicated.
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? ? ????? On Yahoo we had: ? 1.? Role-?? Mod?/ Owner? as?the ?last?option?in yahoo ? 2nd? Owner "" cannot delete group"?? ???? ?Moderator privileges cannot be changed.?? Can this be implemented on groups.IO ?? ? 2.? Can billing - be hidden from members and mods alike as "" the monetary information?should ?not? ?be seen by others"" ???? If there is a way -??to hide this info please advise. ? 3.? In sub groups,?? why is there a need for the member to be in both groups?? Main & sub. ???? both deal in separate graphic issues - the posts would be heavy indeed,,? ???? one group is 800 + members??? the other a small group -? 27.? The small group would be deluged with mail.. ? Still awaiting? transfer-?? I have not been able to see where I am at..... ? Another hour and its the 28th, here! ? Thanks ? ?Steph???

I setup and expedited a transfer of all our messages in our current Yahoo Group (no attachments, no photos, no members) over to Groups.io. I got an email saying “messages” were transferred but when I went to the Group to which we specified everything be moved, there was zero old postings in there. Anyone else have this issue? What did I do wrong in my setup of either group or the transfer instructions that would prevent a single old Yahoo Group message from being ported over?

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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:11 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:

Perhaps a new feature request (the request to be submitted to beta, probably in 2020) would be to promote a designated Moderator (or Moderators) to Owner, if no Owner has logged in 30 days (or some other defined time)...

This has been discussed in the past.? I believe the subject originally came up 4 years ago in and got mingled in to the thread at 2 years ago.? A new topic, next year, is probably a good idea.? Hopefully something could be implemented that would satisfy everyone.

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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 04:22 PM, Su wrote:

I just created a subgroup for one of the handful of Yahoo groups I'm in the process of migrating over to here, and after that was shown a link to invite people to that subgroup.

Yes, it works.? It was officially announced on February 8,

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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:38 PM, Stéphane wrote:

How long is "a bit" ?

Right now, I'd give it 24 hours (or more.)? Normally indexing updates within an hour or less, but the huge load from the imports is causing delays.

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Thank you for the information.....

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Be patient.
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:47 AM, D R Stinson wrote:

Be patient.

It is, I am told, a virtue. :)

Chris

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:20 AM, I wrote:

I have somewhere I can put it to the test but it won't be "now" coz I need my sleep. :)

One night's sleep later...

Perhaps you had tried it! I have done some tests elsewhere and these are the results:

If the Special checkbox is ticked then the hashtag will appear in the list of hashtags available to all members but if one of them uses it the post will not be sent and they will receive a warning sign that the hashtag is for use by moderators only.

However, if the Special checkbox and the Moderated checkbox are both ticked then all members can select it and use it in a post. Obviously the message in question is then presented to Moderators for moderation irrespective of the member's moderation status, i.e. even if they normally not moderated on this occasion they will be. If the moderator is happy that the message be sent as a Special Notice and approves the message then it will indeed be sent as a Special Notice.?

It is worth noting that it is the Topic that is moderated, not just the initial post (i.e. the Special Notice) and that there is no unmissable warning to the moderator that the post will be sent as a special notice; whoever moderates the message may have to be on the look - out for messages sneaking through with Special Notice hashtags appended!

Hope that helps...

Chris

I got a PM almost immediately.

For anyone following this thread, my issue was that my new laptop didn't have me in the memory on Yahoo yet, so asked me for my email.

Access to the Yahoo groups as a manager requires using your yahoo mail login, which is whatever user name and password you'd chosen.

Now that I'm back at my computer, Chrome remembered my details, and automatically filled the spaces, which logged me in.

So, my next trick will be to discover how to mark the issue closed!

Thanks to the unnamed (haven't had permission to quote his letter yet) benefactor.

L8R

Skip

Be patient.
Dano

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 09:57 AM, Harm Selling wrote:

What can I do to correct this?

Nothing; just sit and wait. See from Mark on beta.

Chris

Yes, wait and see what happens is all we can do. One of my groups currently being transferred is now at stage 3 (import to groups.io) with 420 groups ahead. The queue seems to be growing...

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y@es,

Is there some way of hiding a new Group from the public until after
the migration has completed?

No.

You can use the Visibility option to keep it out of the directory, but its home page would still be visible to anyone with the URL.

You can make the messages private (members only), but not if you intend them to be public later.

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Dave,

If I read Yahoo's statement correctly, from next Monday nobody will be
able to post online on Yahoogroups, nothing new will appear in the
archives, ...

I wonder if that is the case.

The help page uses the word "upload", but email postings are not usually referred to as "uploads". So I think there's a slim possibility that the Conversations section will continue to be updated by new postings, but that those postings can only be made by email.

This means that for those groups currently in the transfer process
only Yahoogroups messages posted before October 28th will be
transferred.

If indeed they stop updating Conversations on monday, then yes.

Of course what actually happens on Monday with Yahoo is anybody's
guess.

Exactly.

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Susan,

We want to start up with your service.

Be aware that GMF is a user-to-user help group. There are no Groups.io employees reading this group.

Without the owner/moderator of our Yahoo group we are unable to add
new members. This presents a huge problem with data transfer I
believe.

You are correct.

As a moderator you would need the "Invite and add members" privilege to invite the transfer agent to your group. Also, you need the "Add, remove, and change moderator privileges" privilege to promote the transfer agent to moderator.

But if the person who passed away was the only person with either the owner or moderator role, then I think you're stuck as far as using the Easy Group Transfer function is concerned.

I'll concur with flonafrank's recommendation of PG Offline. I've used it to capture archives of the Messages, Files, Photos, and Links in the Yahoo Groups I own. Even the ones that I've already transferred to Groups.io (why not, disk space is cheap and messages don't take that much room).

Once you have an archive of the content, even as a member, that preserves your options for the future. For example, it is possible for you to share a PG Offline archive among your board or even your members. They would need to download and run a copy of the program in order to read the archive, but they can do that using the Free trial, even once it has expired.

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Skip,

Yahoo does not recognize (despite my ability to post to each of the
three) my email address nor my email.

In Yahoo (unlike Groups.io) your subscription to a group might not be associated with any account, or may be associated with an account unrelated to that email address.

Despite my ability to post to the three lists I have there (one owned
two other merely a member),

If you are receiving messages from the one you own, open a recent message and examine its header (the full header). If it is a Gmail interface use the Show Original menu command; in other interfaces this function is sometimes called View Source.

Scroll down in the header looking for a field that begins with:

X-Yahoo-Profile:

The parameter on that line is the Yahoo Profile associated with that subscription, and is what you need to enter into Yahoo's Sign In page. Never mind that it prompts you for an Email Address, that's a change that is newer than Yahoo Group's code. Enter exactly the profile found in the header.

Alas, that field isn't present in messages sent to the group -owner address, you need a message posted to the group.

and my ability to SEE those groups, I cannot log into Yahoo.

By "see" I assume you mean that you can access each group's home page, but without logging in can't access the members-only content or owner controls.

If, despite the above, you can't sign in to the named profile don't despair. As long as you can receive emails from the group there's a way to transfer your subscription to a new Yahoo account. Ask again if you need details on that.

Shal


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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 09:31 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:

I think the reason it causes consternation is because short of the notice that pops up, there is confusion as to whether or not your invitations have all disappeared, Perhap an immediate email explaining the process and an estimated delay time would be an easy way to assuage moderator and owner doubts as to whether their invitations have disappeared permanently.

Sending invitations is just one of many aspects of Yahoo Groups that has been unreliable for some time. If an invitation fails to go through, there is no way for groups.io to know that you've tried to send one, or simply changed your mind and decided not to use the Easy[?] Group Transfer process at all.

It is up to you, the group owner, to actually check the status page and confirm that the invitation has been received. If so, it will say so in no uncertain terms in the boxed message at the top of the page. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948?for instructions on how to check status.

Regards,
Bruce