When I requested 2 transfers today, each one had a notation that acceptance could take up to a week.
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Re: Moderators Unable to Approve Members and Messages
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 05:45 PM, Ron Mura wrote:
I have both moderators set to that Role.
Just below the Role box, there's a whole bunch of Moderator Permissions you can set for each moderator.? The big one is Set Moderator Privileges.? If they have that one, they can make themselves owner and/or remove you! Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Moderators Unable to Approve Members and Messages
Thanks, Michael.
Sorry to be dense, but where are permissions set, if they are different from Roles? I have both moderators set to that Role.
Other than that, I don't see any place to set specific permissions in their Membership.
In the group's Privacy settings, I have the Member Directory set to "Moderators and Owners." For all other options on the Settings page, I also have "Moderators and Owners" specified, although I don't think those options have any relevance to approving/modifying members and messages.
Ron
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Re: New changes to Group Plans
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 06:24 PM, Michael Waldrop wrote:
Can anyone explain the following:
What is the "Per-member" group plan all about and what are the fees?
Mike -- See? /g/GroupManagersForum/message/20178?for updated information on this. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 06:22 PM, Brian Theodore wrote:
Do you know how a transfer works when the transfer is setup for a subgroup? ?The easy transfer let me initiate the transfer into a subgroup, but reading the docs on subgroups it says that all members of a subgroup also needs to be a member of the parent group.
That's correct.
?Not sure how this will work with the transfer of member information.
This has recently been explained here:?? /g/GroupManagersForum/message/20190Subgroups naturally work for situations where the main group would be for all members of an organization, while a subgroup is used by the board of directors, or a committee, or some such natural subset of the parent group's membership structure. They are not a particularly good fit for storing several unrelated groups in a single location; and when used in this manner (e.g.: in an attempt to avoid/circumvent upgrades to Premium), may cause problems with subscription management later. See also? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup?and? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/SubgroupsRegards, Bruce
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Re: Moderators Unable to Approve Members and Messages
Hi. What permissions have you set for them? If you are the owner, then I would suggest you go in and check what permissions you Have set. It may be that you have given them the wrong permissions, so that is why they can¡¯t see the
page. Hope this helps.
Thanks.
From Michael.
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From: [email protected] on behalf of Ron Mura <rsvgrsio@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Moderators Unable to Approve Members and Messages
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I have a new group with two moderators. Both of them are unable to approve members and messages. They do receive notification e-mails that a member or message must be approved. However, when they click on the e-mail's link for "View Pending Member" or "View
this message online," they are shown a page that says "You do not have permission to access that page." (They are logged in at the time.)
Also, on the web interface they only see one option (Activity) under Admin. (Regular users see none and moderators should see all, including Members, etc.)
Any help is appreciated.
Ron
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New changes to Group Plans
I've read the Premium group plan fee of $110 has been doubled to $220 a year.
I also read that next year Groups.io is looking to move away from a flat rate
fee to a "per-member" group fee. I have not found anything that explains what the
"Per-member" fee is all about and how much that will be.
As many know, Yahoo made significant changes to their group plans and many
Yahoo groups are moving to Groups.io which is why the Premium Group plan doubled
in price from $110 a year to $220 a year.
? All new basic (non-premium) groups are required to be premium groups if they have,
or acquire, more than 500 members or more than 3 subgroups. (Basic groups in
existence before October 22 at 9 AM remain unlimited for now; however, next year we
will be looking at readjusting our pricing structure and moving away from a flat rate fee
and towards a more equitable per-member cost. We will keep you posted about
all of this as we work through the process.)
Can anyone explain the following:
What is the "Per-member" group plan all about and what are the fees?
Will, there be "Grandfathering" applied to current members or will all
members, new and current, be required to pay the Per-member fee?
When will the "Per-member" group plan go into effect?
Thanks in advance and I look forward to answers to the above
questions.
Regards,
Mike W5RKL
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Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer
Do you know how a transfer works when the transfer is setup for a subgroup? ?The easy transfer let me initiate the transfer into a subgroup, but reading the docs on subgroups it says that all members of a subgroup also needs to be a member of the parent group. ?Not sure how this will work with the transfer of member information.
-Brian
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Thank you for answering my questions. This is so straightforward. Thank you!
cheers,
Jane
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Thank you! That was very decent of Mark.? Susan B
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Bruce Bowman < bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Folks -- Appended below is the latest from Mark on the pricing structure.
Bottom line: the requirements for a Basic group will remain unchanged for now.
Bruce
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Re: Notice of Pricing Change
Deane You said it! The cost is horrendous. We do need protection laws.?
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Deane < deanerimerman@...> wrote: We're all having sleepless nights for sure!!!
In reading all the posts in this and the beta forum everyone is doing the best they can and it's great to people being so civil despite such a horrible moment in internet history... And how many of us are so busy rescuing the most important stuff that we've barely had a chance to warn everyone else? Hard times! More sleepless nights to come!
I feel so awful for so much that's going to be lost, especially among our elders who have already passed on who's only record of their online writings are going to be in these yahogroups emails... And all the pet and people adoption groups, the genealogy groups... It's like bulldozing a one-of-a-kind library without taking the books out first.
At some point we need online data protection laws so the cost of deleting decades of archives after a merger is way, way more expensive than maintaining them.
I've no doubt that scholars, researchers and historians will be referencing this event for many decades to come!
Be well, Deane
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After trying several things, the NC went away. ?
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Moderators Unable to Approve Members and Messages
I have a new group with two moderators. Both of them are unable to approve members and messages. They do receive notification e-mails that a member or message must be approved. However, when they click on the e-mail's link for "View Pending Member" or "View this message online," they are shown a page that says "You do not have permission to access that page." (They are logged in at the time.)
Also, on the web interface they only see one option (Activity) under Admin. (Regular users see none and moderators should see all, including Members, etc.)
Any help is appreciated.
Ron
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Re: Issue sending invitations to "unnamed" addresses
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Hi! I am new to groups.io.? I was wondering, is there a way of importing messages from another group into groups.io? If so, how do I do this? Thank you for your help!
Dawn
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Re: Group transfer without members
#yahoo
I think I found the answer on an earlier thread:
So if you leave the members behind during a transfer, that message will no longer be associated with any "posterid" within groups.io, because such an account does not exist. For example, you won't be able to "find" other posts by that person by searching on "all posts by this member." But the text metadata?will remain in the message base, whether the associated member is migrated or not. Specifically, the from address is not munged or changed to "anonymous."
Source: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19979 So I think the answer is, yes it will show the original poster addresses / names but they won't be associated with the user on Groups.io and even if that same user gets added later, they still won't be associated. I don't think this will be a problem for us. Thanks, Su
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Issue sending invitations to "unnamed" addresses
I just invited a number of people to my new group using the "Upload
Addresses" feature on the group Invite page. Addresses with personal
names were sent OK, but those that didn't have a name seem to have been
dropped. For example
John Doe <jdoe@...>
<xyzzy@...>
The invitation was sent to the first address, but not to the second.
Looking at the Invite page again, it appears I should have left the
angle brackets off the second address, and I'll do that. But I'm a
little troubled that it dropped these addresses silently rather than
putting something in the activity log.
But thanks for the detailed error messages on the addresses that were
invalid!
-Jim
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:43 PM, Jane Valencia wrote:
1) Is it possible to move a yahoo group directly to the subgroup? I understand that they will be members of the main group too. Or does the group get transferred to the main group and I (or they) subscribe them to the subgroup?
2) What happens with this list's archived info? Can it go directly under the sub group and not be mixed in with the main group's archive (my ideal)?
3) If there's a way to transfer the second Yahoo Group directly to the subgroup, we're not seeing how to do it via the "Easy Transfer .." pages. Can someone walk me through this?
1) The second group would be transferred directly to the subgroup.? All members there would be added to the main group and the subgroup.? They'd be added to the subgroup, but not the main group if they're already members from your first transfer.) 2) Whatever you choose as part of what's transferred, they'll be put into the subgroup. 3) On the transfer page, enter the subgroup name as the destination instead of the main group. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Not Confirmed member (NC) behind member name
You might try sending a message directly to the address. Sometimes
message from Groups.io can end up in someone's spam folder or be
ignored. I try resending the confirmation email a couple of times. I
can't recall there is an error message in the Email Activity messages if
this bounces. If there is a typo then sending a message directly will
let you know. If it doesn't bounce then it may be that the person
doesn't realize they have to confirm their address and are ignoring the
messages. I've sometimes had to remind people several times, directly,
to respond to one of the confirmation messages. Here is my routine
dealing with this.
- Resend the confirmation email a few times
- At that point send an email directly to their address.
- If this email bounces remove them from the list.
- If it doesn't bounce leave them on the list and wait for their response.
- Try again a few times and then remove them from the list and send them
an invitation to join the list.
They won't have to confirm their address with an invitation, since
they will respond to the invitation in order to accept it and that will
confirm that it was the correct address.
Jonathan
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On 10/22/2019 4:30 PM, Duane wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:07 PM, Patty Halverson wrote:
One member shows NC behind their name.
Once in awhile someone makes a typo on their email address, so the
Confirmation Email doesn't actually go to a real address.? I resend the
notice once, then wait a week.? If it gets confirmed, all is well.? If
it doesn't, I assume it was a typo and remove it.? I do have a Removed
Member notice set up that says, "Your email address hasn't been
confirmed, so you've been removed from the group.? You may rejoin, but
be sure to click on the link in the email you receive from Groups.io to
confirm your email address." just in case they've overlooked it.
Duane
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Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages
Thanks, Larry. That will be a useful template when the transfer is complete for my group. Mark Karney? N9JWF Listowner [email protected]
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