Migrating Messages and Member List from a Yahoo Group
Hello,
I'm a total groups.io novice.? I've run a U.S.Army Yahoo group for 15 years.? We have over 60,000 messages and 1150 members.?
How do I transfer the messages and member list to Groups.IO ???
I'm not concerned with attachments inside the messages - I've heard they don't transfer and that doesn't matter.
Any help (e.g. a guide?) would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill Kay
San Diego
U.S.Army 1978-81.? Founder of "Augsburg2ndOps" on Yahoo Groups.
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Re: Can you have more than one group on a single premium account?
#groupowner
Hi, No ¨C you can create many groups you need with a single account with Groups.IO (I own several under my email address, one of which is a premium group). Cheers, Joseph ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of tim@...
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Can you have more than one group on a single premium account? #groupowner ? Newbie question from a soon to be former YahooGroup owner.?
We currently have four YahooGroups. One could probably be a subgroup of another as there is a good degree of joint membership and similar topics. ?However, there are three distinct groups. ?Do I need three Group.io accounts??
I tried searching this (excellent) ?forum but did not see the answer. ?
Thanks?
Tim Ballering
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Can you have more than one group on a single premium account?
#groupowner
Newbie question from a soon to be former YahooGroup owner.?
We currently have four YahooGroups. One could probably be a subgroup of another as there is a good degree of joint membership and similar topics. ?However, there are three distinct groups. ?Do I need three Group.io accounts??
I tried searching this (excellent) ?forum but did not see the answer. ?
Thanks?
Tim Ballering
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
Hi,
There is an option to archive this yourself with some open source tools but you have to be knowledgeable in shell scripting, python, etc. (Or know somebody who will put in the effort for you.) I am currently using this script as a basis to archive some groups:??It requires a lot of tweaking/handholding, and downloading attachments is still a bit of a problem. (But I¡¯m getting there¡)
BTW, Bruce (and others), thanks for all the effort you put into this group. Much appreciated, I learned a lot in the last few days from reading your answers!
Ben
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 09:54 AM, Stinson Webmaster wrote:
So is there a paid service above the $110 that could port that data over?
No.
Or is there an explanation why that can not be done?
It has never been an option within the transfer process, and I believe if it could have been done, Mark would have been put it in place a long time ago. Bruce
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Thanks Francis - found it! ?Just assumed it would still be under ¡°Admin¡±!?
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Re: No Digest generated last night (ET)
Thanks Duane.? A few hiccups here and there are no big deal.? ;) To the mod who made this note:
[Mod Note: If no additional posts are made since the previous Digest was sent, groups.io does not send an empty "overnight digest."]
Thx.? As I mentioned in my post, we had eight messages posted (we're not a high volume Group) since the last Digest. Cheers, -pablo
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 09:54 AM, Stinson Webmaster wrote:
So is there a paid service above the $110 that could port that data over?
No.
Or is there an explanation why that can not be done?
It has never been an option within the transfer process, and I believe if it could have been done, Mark would have put it in place a long time ago. Bruce
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
OK, thanks for the simple one word Responce of NO.?
So is there a paid service above the $110 that could port that data over? Or is there an explanation why that can not be done? I¡¯m NOT a coder, but if PG Offline can pull that data and display it in that application, why can it not also be imported here to retain that relationship of attachments to comments?
Out site is a support site for vintage aircraft and many use Photos to explain issues, so all of that will be lost coming to this platform
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 09:39 AM, Stinson Webmaster wrote:
Does the full backup from PG Offline help keep attachments? Can your service use that data to make a full transfer?
No. Bruce
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
Does the full backup from PG Offline help keep attachments? Can your service use that data to make a full transfer?
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Re: [YGOG] Instructions on how to transfer memberlist< maybe this will help>
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 09:02 AM, Roger Taylor wrote:
The other thing to be aware of is that admins are proposing to transfer EU subscribers in an illegal manner. At least one one admin is proposing to transfer his whole membership however specific permission is needed to transfer personal information such as an email address from Yahoo to groups.io.
In my opinion groups.io should not be allowing such a transfer from Yahoo.
Roger -- Groups.io provides some relevant tools. There is an option on the transfer page to enter the email addresses of those who opt out of the transfer. Such subscribers are not transferred, nor is any of their content. Those who object afterward may also have all their content deleted, simply by clicking on a link.? I believe these recent features were added at the request of groups.io legal counsel. See also? /static/complianceHaving said all that, I am not an attorney...I was not consulted on this, nor were those discussions shared with anyone outside of groups.io's inner circle. GMF is a technical support forum and we need to get back to providing that support to those who need our assistance.? Hope this helps, Bruce
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
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Re: [YGOG] Instructions on how to transfer memberlist< maybe this will help>
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 08:02 AM, Roger Taylor wrote:
admins are proposing to transfer EU subscribers in an illegal manner
The GDPR has been hashed, rehashed, and studied by the lawyers for groups.io.? You can go back and read the discussions here and on the beta group.? There wouldn't any transfers happening if it were illegal. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: [YGOG] Instructions on how to transfer memberlist< maybe this will help>
The other thing to be aware of is that admins are proposing to transfer EU subscribers in an illegal manner. At least one one admin is proposing to transfer his whole membership however specific permission is needed to transfer personal information such as an email address from Yahoo to groups.io.
In my opinion groups.io should not be allowing such a transfer from Yahoo.
Roger
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On 19/10/2019 13:18, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
There is a delay for approval.
Given the probable influx of new groups (as evidenced by the significant increase in subscribers to this group!) and the global reach of Groups.io it might be worth pointing out that all such approvals, and responses to queries to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, take place on Standard Pacific Time, which can manifest itself as what seems to be a long delay before things happen.
Chris
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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.
So we will LOSE the attachments to posts during the transfer?
I have a full backup using PG offline, Can that assist in the paid transition to preserve all the attachments and files? Will Ware Webmaster International Stinson Club N97954 108-1
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On Oct 19, 2019, at 01:19, Don Grass <dgrass1@...> wrote:
? Assuming you want to transfer over from YG, everything you had there except attachments. The success of the transfer depends on how stable YG is, and right now it seems Y is unstable at times. I transferred my group January 2018, and I had my new group up and running in about three days. ? Don
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Re: No Digest generated last night (ET)
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 07:18 AM, Pablo Sanchez wrote:
I wonder if that effort caused some time stamp to get borked.
Mark mentioned in his #Changelog last night that more machines were added to handle the additional load, ? Some of us have noticed a few glitches since, so it may just be growing pains.? (By my estimate, there were at least 539 groups started yesterday!)? Hopefully it will all be ironed out soon. ? Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: [YGOG] Instructions on how to transfer memberlist< maybe this will help>
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
There is a delay for approval.
Given the probable influx of new groups (as evidenced by the significant increase in subscribers to this group!) and the global reach of Groups.io it might be worth pointing out that all such approvals, and responses to queries to [email protected], take place on Standard Pacific Time, which can manifest itself as what seems to be a long delay before things happen. Chris
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Re: Prevent use of hashtags
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:
Don't try to persuade me they're wonderful - you won't
OK; I won't, not least because in general terms I wholeheartedly agree. However, I would ask you consider that a small number of hashtags for use by moderators only can be useful. One obvious possibility is #Group_Management that can be used to advise members about "management matters"; others are (for example) #Photos & #Files for use when it is desirable to advise members about (say) a reorganisation of those sections. #Group_Management has the advantage that it can be used for a range of individual details rather than having a list of hashtags for each individual detail. Use by Mods Only is a setting "within" the hashtag that can be checked when the hashtag is created. As Duane said their use makes finding them at a later date much easier; without them it might be nearly impossible, or at least very time consuming.? Another downside is that hashtags in email subject lines don't actually stand out all that well in comparison to their appearance on the web UI. I would definitely agree that allowing members free rein to create hashtags can create a situation that is #Ridiculous. Chris
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No Digest generated last night (ET)
Hi,
As we're recent transplants from Y!G, I've been vigilantly.
I have two email addresses subscribed to my mailing.? I noticed my?Full Digest email address did not receive a Digest this morning.? I poked around and looked at other users and noticed they had not received one either.
Did anyone else not receive a 24-hour Digest?? (Not intraday).
We only had eight messages posted from the last Digest.? This morning I tickled a Digest by running a shell script to email the list five more messages.
I know I read that yesterday there was an issue with attachments being stored in the wrong location.? I wonder if that effort caused some time stamp to get borked.
Thx!
-pablo
[Mod Note: If no additional posts are made since the previous Digest was sent, groups.io does not send an empty "overnight digest."]
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Re: [YGOG] Instructions on how to transfer memberlist< maybe this will help>
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 07:53 AM, M K Ramadoss wrote:
I have done this with a group of 250+ members to a paid group. Not sure if there is a limit per day.
There is no actual "limit." There is a delay for approval. See? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-LimitRegards, Bruce
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