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Re: Files Did Not Transfer

 

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 08:18 AM, Glenn Tuttle wrote:
Yesterday I completed the set-up of Cruisers Network Online in Groups.io.? People are joining with no problem.? However, so far, none of the Files have transferred over.? Can anyone help me with what I am doing wrong?
Glenn --?Transfer instructions can be found in the GMF wiki at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups?and also in the Easy Group Transfer section at?/yahootransfer?. Be advised that you'll have to pay for a year of Premium access ($110) to complete the process.

You say people are joining, and I guess that's okay, but for people in your Yahoo group it's really best to let the transfer agent do it. It's also not uncommon to have a few items left behind in the Yahoo group, due to problems with their servers.

Did you get an email from the transfer agent telling you it was done? Can you fill us in regarding at what step of the transfer process you are? We will struggle to tell you what you're doing wrong until you tell us what you're doing.

Regards,
Bruce
Files Did Not Transfer

 

Hello Group,

I have been the owner and moderator of a Yahoo Group called Cruisers Network Online since 2006 and have about 1600 members.? Through the years very valuable things were added to the Files Section, like Cruising Guides to different places in the Caribbean.? Yesterday I completed the set-up of Cruisers Network Online in Groups.io.? People are joining with no problem.? However, so far, none of the Files have transferred over.? Can anyone help me with what I am doing wrong?? I would be most appreciative.? Glenn Tuttle - Parrothedd@....
Re: Cannot get Yahoo group content

 

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I have remembered that in the last few years since Yahoo was ''bought'' by verizon you do need a yahoo address to access the web-site and things like the files and photos area. Otherwise you just get email access.
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Alan

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Cannot get Yahoo group content

Well do u remember back in 2012 when yahoo had that huge hack, my email was hacked sadly, I¡¯m helpless at this point, but thanks nonetheless?

could you maybe look at the group one time, that way I can stop looking for help because I know there would be no solution.?

Heres the link:?

Thanks again!

Re: Cannot get Yahoo group content

 

Darius . . .

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:44:38 -0700, dariusburke@... wrote:

could you maybe look at the group one time, that way I can stop looking for help because I know there would be no solution.

Heres the link:
I looked at the group and there's nothing to see, no access to
anything as a non-member. I clicked join and added a note that's
required. I doubt there is anyone there who can approve the
membership. If they do, then you should be able to join also. I'll
leave the group if they approve it after looking around.

Donald


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Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)
Re: Changing Sub Group Email broke invitation links

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 07:36 PM, Thom Bentley wrote:
I changed a subgroups email and then invited folks.? The welcome email text still referred to the old subgroup email,
all links and email addresses had the old email.
This is a known issue. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group

Regards,
Bruce
Re: Cannot get Yahoo group content

 

Darius, I think there is one way of trying to contact the current owner an email
<groupname>-owner@... This is obviously for a UK Yahoo Group
It obviously may not work if the owner is no longer active or has changed his address.

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Hellen" <donhellen@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Cannot get Yahoo group content


Darius . . .

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 12:56:27 -0700, dariusburke@... wrote:

Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires approval to which on one has access. I've been wanting to try and at least get the photos in he group. Ive been looking everywhere for help, I asked Yahoo support via twitter and they were 0 help, I asked reddit but they laughed at me. You guys are my last hope, please help me out.
This is bad news, but here's how it looks to Yahoo and why you won't
get their help.

If you aren't a member and if it's a closed group, you would have to
have your membership approved before having access to the files and
photos. You said it was your group at one point.

Let's assume it's not your group for a moment, as it might as well not
be if you can't remember your username and password or if they don't
work.

If it's open to the public (you said it's not), and if the public has
access to those areas, then you could download them one at a time then
upload them to your new GIO group, also one at a time.

But you're not a member (from Yahoo's standpoint). So you don't have
"rights" to access the group. Yahoo won't help since it's up to the
group owner (who can't log in) to approve your membership. That's how
Yahoo looks at it.

That means you're stuck if you don't have your login information or
the same contact email address to get your credentials recovered.
Yahoo, if there was any customer support, would think you're trying to
take over the group from the legitimate owner. They won't help you do
that. They used to let someone just run a group as a supermoderator if
the owner couldn't be contacted, to continue the group. But they don't
do that anymore, and you would still have had to be a member back when
they did that. We won't even go into how you do that since you're not
viewed as a member to the system. And it's pretty much a system of
computers that you're dealing with now that they pretty much got rid
of customer service.

You could just start a new group and realize that it will take a while
to build membership. If you have old emails from your group, you could
try inviting those members to the new group.

There's no magic way to recover your access to the group if you don't
have your login credentials, or if someone hacked the group somehow
and took it over, then removed you from the group.

I'm not sure exactly what happened as you didn't give a full history
of what happened, but in any case, it looks like you don't have a way
to get to those files or photos.

Donald


----------------------------------------------------


Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)
Changing Sub Group Email broke invitation links

 


Hi All,

I changed a subgroups email and then invited folks.? The welcome email text still referred to the old subgroup email,
all links and email addresses had the old email.? Also, the [groupname] still says the old email address.

Is this a known?issue?

Thanks,
Thom Bentley
Re: Cannot get Yahoo group content

[email protected]
 

Well do u remember back in 2012 when yahoo had that huge hack, my email was hacked sadly, I¡¯m helpless at this point, but thanks nonetheless?

could you maybe look at the group one time, that way I can stop looking for help because I know there would be no solution.?

Heres the link:?

Thanks again!
Re: Cross posting to other lists

 

re: case for adding Show and Reply To 'All Recipients' options

Re-raising thread a year later to see if the above might be in the Groups.io near-term roadmap.

Our community has re-emphasized the need to not remove folks who are on Cc when Replying to message.

Our current list setting is "Reply to Sender"... although even if I updated to "Reply to Group" I don't believe this would solve the issue of not dropping folks added to Cc?
Re: Cannot get Yahoo group content

 

Darius . . .

On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 12:56:27 -0700, dariusburke@... wrote:

Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires approval to which on one has access. I've been wanting to try and at least get the photos in he group. Ive been looking everywhere for help, I asked Yahoo support via twitter and they were 0 help, I asked reddit but they laughed at me. You guys are my last hope, please help me out.
This is bad news, but here's how it looks to Yahoo and why you won't
get their help.

If you aren't a member and if it's a closed group, you would have to
have your membership approved before having access to the files and
photos. You said it was your group at one point.

Let's assume it's not your group for a moment, as it might as well not
be if you can't remember your username and password or if they don't
work.

If it's open to the public (you said it's not), and if the public has
access to those areas, then you could download them one at a time then
upload them to your new GIO group, also one at a time.

But you're not a member (from Yahoo's standpoint). So you don't have
"rights" to access the group. Yahoo won't help since it's up to the
group owner (who can't log in) to approve your membership. That's how
Yahoo looks at it.

That means you're stuck if you don't have your login information or
the same contact email address to get your credentials recovered.
Yahoo, if there was any customer support, would think you're trying to
take over the group from the legitimate owner. They won't help you do
that. They used to let someone just run a group as a supermoderator if
the owner couldn't be contacted, to continue the group. But they don't
do that anymore, and you would still have had to be a member back when
they did that. We won't even go into how you do that since you're not
viewed as a member to the system. And it's pretty much a system of
computers that you're dealing with now that they pretty much got rid
of customer service.

You could just start a new group and realize that it will take a while
to build membership. If you have old emails from your group, you could
try inviting those members to the new group.

There's no magic way to recover your access to the group if you don't
have your login credentials, or if someone hacked the group somehow
and took it over, then removed you from the group.

I'm not sure exactly what happened as you didn't give a full history
of what happened, but in any case, it looks like you don't have a way
to get to those files or photos.

Donald


----------------------------------------------------


Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)
Cannot get Yahoo group content

[email protected]
 

Hi, my name is Darius.
I've been struggling for he past 8 months on figuring out how I can get photos, attachments from an old Yahoo group of mine, after the whole Yahoo hack, I couldn't get back on there, and the other mods had the same issue, long story short the yahoo group has been inactive since 2011. Its still up, and I searched for it out of curiosity and found it! I was ecstatic but I couldn't get in since its restricted and requires approval to which on one has access. I've been wanting to try and at least get the photos in he group. Ive been looking everywhere for help, I asked Yahoo support via twitter and they were 0 help, I asked reddit but they laughed at me. You guys are my last hope, please help me out.

Thanks so much!!
-D

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Re: Member has log in issues

 

Thanks Bruce,

I've passed your advice to her and we'll see what transpires...

Best
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Peter
Re: Member has log in issues

 

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 07:44 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
One of our members with a googlemail.com email address is unable to successfully access our site.? Her husband with a gmail.com email address can.
Peter -- It may be that she'd have more success logging in using the gmail.com domain. Googlemail is just an alias for gmail. I can send a message to myaccount(at)googlemail(dot)com?and it will arrive at myaccount(at)gmail(dot)com just fine.

This is from her message to me:
"I can¡¯t get on using a password. I pressed email a link and it sent me a link which I clicked on. I was sent straight to a page to add a new topic. I pressed on a menu but nothing allowed me to put in a password.
The link in the "log in" email is not a "password reset" link, as she may be accustomed to. If you click on that link, it logs you in without a password.

If she clicked on the link and it didn't take her to her account page, it may be that she was already logged in. She needs to check the menu at top right of the page (on the blue menu bar). If it doesn't say "Login" up there, but instead displays her Display Name or email address, then she doesn't need to log in...she already is.?

Once logged in, a password can be set by entering one at?/account?and clicking on the Change Password button. This is all explained in great detail at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-in-and-How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Question about moderated messages

 

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 08:00 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
So many of us lose being able to share as much as we would like [due] to the 40 emails in 30 mins loop ban.
I have no idea what you might mean by this.
Ah, I see now (Ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/2356142).?

Bruce
Re: Question about moderated messages

 

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 07:44 AM, Dani wennberg wrote:
Let's say I want to pre-load today for a war that starts the 1st weekend in november and just let those shares sit and wait needing approval. Can I do that or will the messages vanish from the group?
Dani -- If I understand you correctly, I believe it is possible.

The default behavior is that any messages left in the Pending queue for more than two weeks are automatically deleted. However, as a Moderator/Owner you can override that timeout by "claiming" the messages. You "claim" a pending?message?by clicking the Edit button. Even if you subsequently cancel the edit, you've still claimed it.??

Such "claimed" messages will remain in Pending indefinitely until you or another Moderator further processes them. In your case, you would open your Pending queue on November 1 and approve them all at once.

So many of us lose being able to share as much as we would like [due] to the 40 emails in 30 mins loop ban.
I have no idea what you might mean by this.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Member has log in issues

 

One of our members with a googlemail.com email address is unable to successfully access our site.? Her husband witrh a gmail.com email address can.

This is from her message to me:
"I can¡¯t get on using a password. I pressed email a link and it sent me a link which I clicked on. I was sent straight to a page to add a new topic. I pressed on a menu but nothing allowed me to put in a password.
Sorry I¡¯ve never come across this messaging system before."

I've suggested she clear her cookies etc., ensured that her password is correct via 'Account' but so far, no success.? Any ideas anyone?
--
Peter
Question about moderated messages

Dani wennberg
 

?Hi there, I co-own a paint shop pro list that has a "war" the first weekend of every month. Well, we want everyone to be able to pre-load their shares to be "let go" manually?throughout the NEXT war all month. My question is, is this possible? Let's say I want to pre-load today for a war that starts the 1st weekend in november and just let those shares sit and wait needing approval. Can I do that or will the messages vanish from the group? So many of us lose being able to share as much as we would like do to the 40 emails in 30 mins loop ban. Thanks for reading.
Dani
Re: members post in inbox but not group

 

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psb b,
how does a members post appear in my inbox (I am owner) but it does not appear in the groups messages?

Most likely it wasn't actually a post to the group. It may have been addressed to the +owner address as Frances suggested, or it may have been addressed to you directly.

If the message was sent to you as a group posting then it would have the normal group footer at the bottom, with your email address next to the Unsubscribe link.
Consequently, my reply post doesn't appear anywhere!

What does the To field say in your reply? Most likely it has that member's address rather than your group's posting address.

In looking at email addresses in your inbox, don't be fooled by display name text.


If the From or To address field contains an email address inside <angle brackets> (yellow highlighter in the screenshot) that is the actual email address. Any text to the left of the angle bracketed address is just Display Name text. Even when it looks like an email address, as in the example screenshot, the Display Name text is not used as an email address.

Shal


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Re: members post in inbox but not group

 

Was it addressed to the group owner??

Or if not, check your settings in Admin -?Message Policies -

There is the option to allow non-members to post: ?if checked, owners and moderators can approve a post from a non-member. This is true even in a non-moderated group. Members can read the post and respond, but the non-member would not see the replies. You would need to forward them, summarize the replies and email the summary to the non-member, or invite the non-member to join.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation
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Frances

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members post in inbox but not group

 

Hi,?

how does a members post appear in my inbox (I am owner) but it does not appear in the groups messages?

Consequently, my reply post doesn't appear anywhere!

Thank you
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