Hi all,

No problem. De-highlighted most. Added that it is a work in progress!

One area that concerns me is the initial step - choosing the email address. The official help is silent on this and it has been awhile since I created a new group.?

What is the relationship between the group email address and group name? ?My example was for a fictitious group for vintage pickle jar collectors. I thought there was a close connection so I wrote: “An account is identified by its?email address. Decide on the email address.?This is also the name for your group.?Example - vintagepicklejars
The suffix will be @groups.io”

I know when you go to Settings, you can edit the group name. ?In this case add in “collectors”. But I don’t think you can edit the email address. Or can you?

I started this section based on my perception that new members need it. And since the wiki is public, even potential users can see it.?

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That was for Francis's benefit -- does EVERYONE have access to the diffs?? I thought only Mods???? Live and learn.

de-highlight is easy -? I do it all the time.? I have text?HL'd in continuously updated generic reports that I will need to update for the "next" report issuance --?
Save again after edits, and just before printing (PDF-ng) -?Select all - de-highlight.? 2 eazy peazy strokes.

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Cindy,

but the auto generated email says the person is invited by my email address

Set your display name. I believe that will be used together with your email address.

Shal
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We are almost ready to launch our invite-only group but the auto generated email says the person is invited by my email address, not the name of the group or a real person's name. I can't see a way to edit this. Please help!

Is there any record of edits made to moderated posts?

All I can find is a record saying that a post was approved. I was expecting to see some record in the approved post to let readers know that this was not necessarily what the original poster wrote.

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:27 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

This is the standard "bounce probe." The fact that your subscriber actually received it suggests that whatever the problem was has subsequently been resolved. I would be interested to know what email provider (domain name) he is using, as this seems to happen on a fairly regular basis with some of them.

Anyway, he should click on the provided link to unbounce his account (or log into groups.io and click on the red banner). Until this is done, group email delivery will continue to be suspended (for him).

First, thank you everyone who responded.

Bruce, with regard to your question, the email provider is Cox Communications here in Phoenix, Arizona.
Stan

Threats on ? ?Really?

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:23 PM, Victoria wrote:

what is AIUI and what is FWIW?

As I understand it & For what it's worth.?

Apologies for assuming that "everyone" knew these bits of internet shorthand.

Chris

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Chris,

This may highlight a difference between US & UK Laws.

Don't take my word on that, I haven't looked into it as a matter of law.

AIUI in the UK there does not have to be a clear possibility of a
physical threat; all that is needed is for the material in question
(emails) to cause /alarm, harassment & distress/.

That may be true here as well. I was only suggesting that one may apply some personal judgement in order to decide if it is worth engaging the police on the matter.

Shal


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On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 05:21 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

...if you think there is a chance they have the ability to carry out a threat physically then report it to your local police, to have it on file if nothing else.

This may highlight a difference between US & UK Laws. AIUI in the UK there does not have to be a clear possibility of a physical threat; all that is needed is for the material in question (emails) to cause alarm, harassment & distress.

Of course even if those criteria are met it does not guarantee police action. (FWIW further to my comment yesterday it is not the Computer Misuse Act that is relevant to this in the UK; it is other legislation that is used to deal with alleged offenders.)

Chris

Ken,

Francis I added some suggested edits (yellow)

The yellow highlighter is unnecessary, and creates more work to remove the highlighting when accepting a change.

Each wiki page keeps a list of revisions, and can generate a highlighted diff between any two selected revisions. Click on the revision count in the upper right corner of the page to see them. Note: the diff algorithm operates on the plain text of the page revisions, ignoring formatting changes.

Shal


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Francis I added some suggested edits (yellow)
(sorry among other things I'm a techno editor for a living.]

just note that over on Beta, some of us are pushing to have menus and groups.io terms changed to be more consistent, and menu items better ((accurately) reflect what they actually contain.

e.g., use "My Settings" vs "Subscription"
and so forth

Debbie,

What can I do to stop an person I remove from threatening me and my
members

If they were foolish enough to post a threat to any Groups.io group use the More menu under their post and select "Report this message". Select the option to have the report go to support and groups.io. If the message has already been deleted from the group, but you have a copy of it in your email, report it to [email protected]

If the threats are being made off list then as Chris said you would report it to the service they used to send the threat.

Safety first though: if you think there is a chance they have the ability to carry out a threat physically then report it to your local police, to have it on file if nothing else.

In any case, do not respond to them. Try not to reveal in any way that you even read their threats - for some types of crazy that's all the encouragement they need.

Shal


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Stan,

See this help page from the wiki -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/dealing-with-bouncing

I think this will do the trick.

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:21 PM, Stan Gorodenski wrote:

A member of my discussion group forwarded me the following email message.

Stan -- This is the standard "bounce probe." The fact that your subscriber actually received it suggests that whatever the problem was has subsequently been resolved. I would be interested to know what email provider (domain name) he is using, as this seems to happen on a fairly regular basis with some of them.

Anyway, he should click on the provided link to unbounce his account (or log into groups.io and click on the red banner). Until this is done, group email delivery will continue to be suspended (for him). More information on bounce handling than you probably ever wanted to know can be found at?/static/help#bouncing

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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A member of my discussion group forwarded me the following email message. I recall that a member can have their account suspended because the ISP is doing something IO does not like (I don't remember what). The member is supposed to get an email message from IO that allows the person to make their account active again. Is the message below this email message? I am sure it is, but since this is the first time this has happened I need to make sure it is so that I don't give the wrong advice.
Stan

Hi everyone,

I started it.?Please join in!
Quick Start Group Formation

Frances
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM, Eden Butler, AGAG wrote:

Our group is hidden -who can invite new members-is it only owners/moderators?

Owners, and Moderators who have been given the "Invite Members" privilege, can send invitations. Regular Subscribers or Moderators without this permission cannot.

Having said that, if you don't want people to be able to join on their own initiative (via the +subscribe address or the button on the group home page), you should also be sure to use the Restricted method of Spam Control.

And could someone I invited pass that e-mail link to a different person for them to use to join?

No. The link only works to subscribe the email address it has been sent to.
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Bruce
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On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:00 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Please populate this in the address book of your email client and use it to initiate a message to the group.

In the early days I would not have understood what this was. I would not be able to tell you are talking about starting a new topic, nor would? I know what you meant by "populate."
I like the tone of Kathleen's note, but would include instructions like yours. I tend to make my instructions very simple.
I think I'd put your explanation of hijacking near the top and then something like:
To start a new topic:
Step 1
Step 2
Like a recipe. :)

~Sandy

ps. I like things so basic that I really appreciate how you folks always remind, "Don't forget to scroll to the bottom of the page and click the button to save your changes." (I hope it's not "hijacking" to add that off-topic thanks.) Bless you all for the help you provide.