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Re: Message History

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 03:59 PM, Frances wrote (quoting Groups.io information):
We send you a warning when you've reached 80% of your storage limit.
I don't think that feature is working, and IIRC Mark has acknowledged that fact. Again IIRC the group I moderate went through the 80% barrier fairly recently and no notification was forthcoming.

Chris


Members and Notes

Marcio
 

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Hi,
A few days ago I saw someone mentioning something about members note, a place where we, mods and owners, can write things about members. How can I found it on my group?

As always, thanks a lot for any and all help!

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Notice to group

 

Hello
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I am trying to send an email to my group every Thursday evening.? i have the note completed under 'note to member' but can't see where to?put the date and time etc.?that the email is supposed to go.
I've done it back in the beginning but can't for the life of me find it now.
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Thanks for your help?
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New topic in wiki? #wiki #settings

 

Hi

It might be useful if there was a bit in the wiki about settings and getting started with a new group or a transferred group.

In this section:
Best Practices for Group Management,?Topics of interest to group owners and moderators,?Group Formation
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home
There is great detailed info on specific topics, but no overview for someone just forming a group or AFTER getting a group transferred from Yahoo.

The settings page is quite detailed so it doesn't make sense to duplicate it. But there are some crucial things to point out, like some things the member changes and some things are set by the owner. For example, time zone by the member and message policies by the owner.

Frances

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Re: Message History

 

Hi

It isn't the message history that takes room. Here's what it says in the wiki and in Help
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The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group:
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Files
Photos
Images in databases
Images in wiki pages
Message attachments

Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments.
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What Happens If I Go Over My Storage Limits?
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We send you a warning when you've reached 80% of your storage limit. You can configure your group to either bounce messages when you've reached your storage limit, or to automatically delete old attachments to keep you under the storage limit. Photos and files are never automatically deleted.
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

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Re: Moderator ?

 

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 03:09 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Select appropriate permissions and notifications, then click the blue "save" button at the bottom.
Bonnie; think very carefully about giving a moderator Set Moderator Privileges. Anyone who has that permission can promote themselves to Owner and downgrade or even remove the "real" Owner. It should only be given to individuals in whom you have complete confidence about their integrity.

Chris


Re: I'm so confused I think I need coffee

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 05:42 AM, Lavon wrote:
by having this checked does this mean they can put themselves on hold?
Each member can choose if or how they have emails delivered.? Selecting this only means that they can't set themselves to not receive any emails.? They can still choose Special Notices Only so they'd receive no email unless it's sent as a Special Notice (only available to moderators.)? Many folks, including me, read our groups online, so don't want to receive most emails.? There are lots of other options available to them as well - follow only, first message, etc.? You could attempt to control this setting, but you can't prevent a member from changing it.

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I'm so confused I think I need coffee

Lavon
 

Disable No Email

Don't allow members to set their delivery to no email.

by having this checked does this mean they can put themselves on hold??

We want it to where they can't go in and do it themselves but have to let the owners know.
Lavon


Re: Message History

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 03:17 AM, Lavon wrote:
how long will it last with a tag group?
If you're not using Photos or Files, you can get an estimate pretty easy.? Go to Photos, then look to see how many are in the Emailed Photos folder (first one shown.)? Divide that into the space used (419 MB in this case) to find out about how much space each consumes.? Then divide THAT number into the remaining space (581 MB here) to see about how many more you can expect to store before the space gets full.? Some will be larger and some smaller, so this is only an estimate.? From what I've seen (not much) tags take about 1 MB each, more or less.

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Re: Moderator ?

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 04:39 AM, mohnkern wrote:
If in the list of permissions I check no boxes does it give them none of them, or all of them?
They only get the specific permissions that you check.

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Re: Moderator ?

 

If in the list of permissions I check no boxes does it give them none of them, or all of them? ?Sometimes if you don¡¯t select lists in other tools presumes a default of all.


Re: Message History

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Lavon,
I went in and checked and it said? Using 419 MB total storage out of 1GB so how close are we to using our 1 GB
Well, when your group reach 500mb, this will be half of this 1gb.

when this fills up what do we do
When this fills up (I personaly would advice you doing it before this happens), you'll have to delete old attachments (files, photos etc.).

then when we have no more room to store ?
If you don't delete anything then yes, you'll have no more room to store anything, however messages without attachments will still be sent (anyone will correct me if I'm wrong :) ).


Hope this helps
Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Message History

 

Lavon . . .

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:13:36 +0000 (UTC), "Lavon via Groups.Io"
<lavon725@...> wrote:

We aren't a paying group so therefor we have 1 gb of space.? Now the dumb question how much is that and how long will it last with a tag group?I went in and checked and it said? Using 419 MB total storage out of 1GB so how close are we to using our 1 GB when this fills up what do we do then when we have no more room to store ?Sorry I'm so dumb about this stuff? :(
The second link Frances gave you has a section I pasted below. You can
set up automatic deletion of attachments and it works with oldest ones
deleted first. That still won't free up space in the files and photos
sections if you use those. If you need more space there, you will have
to do some manual deletion. The wiki linked to should be helpful. I've
never done that as my groups aren't full of attachments. They are rare
in those groups.

Donald

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The Attachments drop ¨C down menu provides the following options:

Allow
Bounce
Strip
Moderate

The group from which the screenshot was taken does not allow
attachments and they are ¡°stripped¡±.

The Out of Space drop ¨C down (only applicable if attachments are
allowed in the first place) determines what happens if the storage
limit is reached; the options are:

Delete Old Attachments
Bounce Messages.

Check that the settings match your group¡¯s requirements.


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Re: Threating Emails

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 09:59 AM, Debbie wrote:
What can I do to stop an person I remove from threatening me and my members
I assume you mean "threatening by email".

It may depend on where in the world you are and the legislation that is in place. You can always try reporting them to their ISP, although there is no knowing how effective that might be.

In the UK it would probably be seen as a matter for the Police (theatening behaviour is threatening behaviour after all, even if it is not face to face) and we also have a Computer Misuse Act which I expect would provide some redress.

Chris


Re: Message History

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 09:17 AM, Lavon wrote:
Using 419 MB total storage out of 1GB so how close are we to using our 1 GB...
1GB = 1000 MB, so you have 1000 - 419 = 581 MB remaining.

when this fills up what do we do then when we have no more room to store ?
Asuming that you aren't using your group's Files and Photos archives (both of which use the same storage allocation) then go to Admin, then Settings and scroll down the page to Message Policies. At the bottom of that section there is a setting called Out of Space; using the drop down set this to Delete Old Attachments, then scroll to the bottom of the page and click on the blue Update Group tab.

Once your total of stored material (i.e. Attachments) reaches 1 GB (or perhaps slightly over) then Groups.io will automatically delete old attachments to make space for new material.

Chris


Threating Emails

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Re: Message History

Lavon
 

We aren't a paying group so therefor we have 1 gb of space.? Now the dumb question how much is that and how long will it last with a tag group?
I went in and checked and it said? Using 419 MB total storage out of 1GB so how close are we to using our 1 GB when this fills up what do we do then when we have no more room to store ?
Sorry I'm so dumb about this stuff? :(

In a message dated 8/27/2019 7:48:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, frances@... writes:

Hi

To start with, here are basic instructions - on the GMF wiki.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

And more -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos

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Re: Over-quoting versus under-quoting

 

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:23 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
On the other hand, coaxing in the form of message rejection might not be such a bad thing for egregious cases.
At the risk of another thread highjack that is the approach we use on the group I moderate where we are fairly insistent on members actually signing their posts. Most posts are moderated so adding a reminder at the bottom is easy if tedious. Persistent offenders find a rejection notice turning up.

Chris


Re: Over-quoting versus under-quoting

 

Jim,

I think the "over-quoting/piggybacking" controversy and the
under-quoting policy is one of those things of personal preference
like top posting versus bottom posting.
And like top versus bottom posting, it is often strongly related to the default behavior of one's email interface. By which I mean that many users don't bother to do something better than the default.

In Groups.io under-quoting (non-quoting, actually) is often related to replying online via the Reply link in the group - where the default action by the site is no quoting. Early on I argued strenuously (and unsuccessfully, in beta) that this default would be acceptable only if the display of a Topic were hierarchical, or otherwise directly revealed the message this one is "In-Reply-To". An indented list or other hierarchy is often used in web forums; even Yahoo! Groups classic had its own take on it:
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Conversely, over-quoting (infinite bottom-quoting, actually) is often related to replying via email.

There does need to be a balance and I do not see that. In fact, I see
very little moderator coaxing to strike a balance. There seems to be
more of a tendency to chastise those that over-quote but no mention is
made to those that under-quote or do not quote at all.
If you mean this moderator, that's because over-quoting is so much easier to correct while pending. Correcting a no-quote is so much work I may have done it only once. And then only because the message content was important in context.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8154

On the other hand, coaxing in the form of message rejection might not be such a bad thing for egregious cases.

Shal


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Re: Failed to send invite to member

 

I didn't use this - the members email is @bigpond.com; this is the error I got sending from email client