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Re: how to require question in membership application? #membershipapplication

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:52 PM, <sally.suzy@...> wrote:
With yahoogroups, you could set it up so that an applying member would have to answer a simply question as to why they wished to join.? This prevented spammers and it helped to assure that the applicant was really interested in the topic of the group.

How would I set up something like that for a new group in groups.io?
Sally -- There is no questionnaire function, but many people use the Pending Subscription notice for this purpose.

For details, please see?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice?and?/static/help#membernotices. Let us know if you have further questions.

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how to require question in membership application? #membershipapplication

 

With yahoogroups, you could set it up so that an applying member would have to answer a simply question as to why they wished to join.? This prevented spammers and it helped to assure that the applicant was really interested in the topic of the group.

How would I set up something like that for a new group in groups.io?


Re: Notes for moderators

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 07:43 AM, Duane wrote:
I can't verify it since I don't have a paid group, but I believe it becomes a drop down on the members page (where you can choose members, bouncing, etc.)? The most recent information says their Notes should remain.
Ok, I found it, that actually is very cool, shows the reason why each person left, voluntary or otherwise, exactly what I needed.? Thanks again.

Steve


Re: Secondary Email

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Shal, Bruce, Sandy and everyone else on this thread,
Thanks for joining me on this adventure and for answering many, many questions. Now, this is the end, I guess :)

Below are a few last words.
Bruce, thanks for the step by step and sorry, I completely misinterpreted you.
I was confused because you said:
To complete the process, you do have to confirm the new email address, but nothing is sent to the old one.
I kind of ignored the "new email address" part, probably because that was late night here and such.? Or maybe just because sometimes I'm a bit slow :)

Sandy,
You can go to groups.io and when you try to sign in with your email account, it will ask for a password. Choose the selection that indicates you don't have a password. It will send an email to your current email address inviting you to set up a password. Follow that link. Then if yahoo quits on you, you can go in through the groups.io home page, sign in with the yahoo email address and your password. Then you can get into your account and change the email address. It will send a confirmation to your new email.
Thanks for the instructions. I've already done this, quite a while ago by the way. I was just wondering whether groups.io and my email by itself were different things, it was what wasn't clear :)

Shal,
With a password you'll still be able to log into your Groups.io account using the old email address and that password to log in, even after the old address has been shut down by Yahoo (or whichever service you were using).
Thanks. It was everything I wanted to know in the first place, and maybe it has been said a few times in different ways but as I've said, sometimes I'm a bit slow. LOL

And with that, guys, I think we've finished this saga. If you're still reading it, well, a million thanks for the patience and for all answers offered.

Quoting the Porky Pig, "That's all, folks!"

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

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Re: How do I UNmoderate members #moderation

 

Thanks for the info Shal.? As I said my groups are new, as i am currently moving out of yahoo groups due to problems with the photo album section which is important for one of the groups due to it having a photo contest.
But now I do ask one question of you, can one set the photos so that all photos must first be approved by a moderator without the need to moderate messages?
Barbara Jean

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:29 AM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Barbara Jean,


Kathryn: go to settings and then go to spam control.? I think by default the settings is for new users to be moderated.? Just uncheck that box and that should make it where no user is moderated.

That will not affect any current members, they have already been set to NuM (New User Moderated) in the Posting Privileges of their membership page.

Also, the Spam Control section of your group's settings requires that at least one of those boxes be checked. For a classmates group like Kathryn's Restricted Membership may be appropriate, but otherwise NuM may be the best option for the group.

One thing I don't know how to do (and hope I don't ever have to do) is to put an individual on moderated status.
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You can do it by opening the member's page from the Members list, and scrolling to the bottom. In the Posting Privileges section chose Override: moderated then Save the change.

You can do it also directly on the Members list, using the checkboxes and Actions menu, which is handy if you need to do more than one at a time.

Shal


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Re: Secondary Email

 

Shal, I agree with the idea of having more than one owner.? In one of my yahoo groups the actual owner is past away, so there are only moderators. In the other group we about had that same happen, but someone who was close to the person who owned the group was able to recover her password and then turn the group over to me as she really did not have time or desire to actually work the group.
Barbara Jean

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:17 AM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Barbara Jean,


There is nothing wrong with having more than one e-mail address.?

I certainly did not mean to imply that there is. I have several myself.

I was focused on Marcio's original question about what to do if he one day woke up to find that the email address which he uses for his Groups.io account had been disabled.

There is also nothing wrong with having multiple Groups.io accounts, as I do. Primarily for the reason Lena and Donald hinted at - it can provide a backup in case you lose access to your primary one. But that backup is limited: since those are separate accounts they do not own the same content.

It has been mentioned many times in GMF that it is good practice for a group to have more than one owner, just in case. I endorse that idea, and usually create a second owner under a second email address of my own shortly after creating a new group. Even better is to have additional owners who are not oneself, if you can identify trustwothy individuals for that role.

Shal


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Re: Concerning Databases

 

Please tell Ingrid that when she uses "save as" to generate an excel .CSV file, there are more options available to generate the utf-8 file?
BUT invalid characters will only get "flagged" by being replaced with a tiny diamond shape
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Re: How do I UNmoderate members #moderation

 

Barbara Jean,


Kathryn: go to settings and then go to spam control.? I think by default the settings is for new users to be moderated.? Just uncheck that box and that should make it where no user is moderated.

That will not affect any current members, they have already been set to NuM (New User Moderated) in the Posting Privileges of their membership page.

Also, the Spam Control section of your group's settings requires that at least one of those boxes be checked. For a classmates group like Kathryn's Restricted Membership may be appropriate, but otherwise NuM may be the best option for the group.

One thing I don't know how to do (and hope I don't ever have to do) is to put an individual on moderated status.
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You can do it by opening the member's page from the Members list, and scrolling to the bottom. In the Posting Privileges section chose Override: moderated then Save the change.

You can do it also directly on the Members list, using the checkboxes and Actions menu, which is handy if you need to do more than one at a time.

Shal


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Re: Secondary Email

 

Barbara Jean,


There is nothing wrong with having more than one e-mail address.?

I certainly did not mean to imply that there is. I have several myself.

I was focused on Marcio's original question about what to do if he one day woke up to find that the email address which he uses for his Groups.io account had been disabled.

There is also nothing wrong with having multiple Groups.io accounts, as I do. Primarily for the reason Lena and Donald hinted at - it can provide a backup in case you lose access to your primary one. But that backup is limited: since those are separate accounts they do not own the same content.

It has been mentioned many times in GMF that it is good practice for a group to have more than one owner, just in case. I endorse that idea, and usually create a second owner under a second email address of my own shortly after creating a new group. Even better is to have additional owners who are not oneself, if you can identify trustwothy individuals for that role.

Shal


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Re: Concerning Databases

 

Bob,
here is Ingrids answer to your message:
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"Hello everyone, unfortunately I only have Excel available, because Access is not usable for blind people, as far as I know. But I will ask if there is a possibility to create CSV files in UTF8 format anyway. If not, the missing lines have to be added manually. Greetings from Ingrid Scheibe"

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And from Victoria


Re: How do I UNmoderate members #moderation

 

Kathryn: go to settings and then go to spam control.? I think by default the settings is for new users to be moderated.? Just uncheck that box and that should make it where no user is moderated.
Both of my io groups are new and the members are coming form a couple of yahoo groups I have and am going to close down due to problems with yahoo groups and photos (an important feature in one of the groups)? One thing I don't know how to do (and hope I don't ever have to do) is to put an individual on moderated status.
Barbara Jean

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:14 AM Kathryn Bassett <kathryn@...> wrote:
I can't figure out how to set up my group's members as unmoderated. So far, when someone posts for the first time, I get an email and I can look at the message, then choose to approve and unmoderate. But I can't find anyplace to put all members (at once) on unmoderated status. This group is for a reunion, and as we get closer, time is more of an essence. I shouldn't have to approve the messages for each person, they should automatically be approved in advance. Please give me the steps I need to follow to select ALL members and unmoderate them!?!?!?!
Thanks, Kathryn


Re: Secondary Email

 

There is nothing wrong with having more than one e-mail address.? Let's face it many people have both a personal and work e-mail address.? Since I am transgender I had for many years both an e-mail address for my male name and my current name.? When I had the problem of someone hacking my yahoo e-mail address I opened a gmail account and to this day both are active but I just don't do anything on the yahoo address except to clear out things to keep the box from being cluttered.
Having the two addresses is handy also in the event that I want to send something to myself from one computer to another computer that I have at another location.
Barbara Jean

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:14 AM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Marcio,

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The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.
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Make sure you've set a password on your Groups.io account page. While you still can.
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With a password you'll still be able to log into your Groups.io account using the old email address and that password to log in, even after the old address has been shut down by Yahoo (or whichever service you were using).
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Then, if and when you find that you need to change your email address (someday has come and it just stopped working) use the steps Bruce gave you. In that scenario, after logging in to Groups.io with the old address your? first order of business should be to replace the old address with a new working email address. Presto you're good to go.
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Note:
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If you use Groups.io's web interface on a regular basis it isn't a disaster if you haven't set a password - your login is remembered in a browser cookie and you won't get logged out just because your email address went bad. If that happens to you unexpectedly, DON'T PANIC. Go to your Groups.io account page and change to a working email address as soon practical.
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Well, maybe do panic about all of the other consequences of losing your email address. But at least your Groups.io account won't be another casualty. Unless maybe you have your browser or security software set up to discard cookies at the drop of a hat.
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Re: How do I UNmoderate members #moderation

 
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Kathryn,

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So far, when someone posts for the first time, I get an email and I can look at the message, then choose to approve and unmoderate. But I can't find anyplace to put all members (at once) on unmoderated status.
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First, go to the group's Settings page and ensure that the Moderated checkbox, in the Spam Control section, is not checked.
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Then, go to the Members page and put a checkmark on every member with a light blue M or NuM badge after their email address. At the bottom of the page, select Change Moderation in the Actions menu. In the pop-up Set Moderation Status dialog box select Use Group Moderation Setting then click the Change button.
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That will let you set up to a page full of members at a time. You can go to your Account page to change the number of members shown per page up to 100, but I don't recommend "infinite scroll" as that seems to sometimes lead to trouble.
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How do I UNmoderate members #moderation

 

I can't figure out how to set up my group's members as unmoderated. So far, when someone posts for the first time, I get an email and I can look at the message, then choose to approve and unmoderate. But I can't find anyplace to put all members (at once) on unmoderated status. This group is for a reunion, and as we get closer, time is more of an essence. I shouldn't have to approve the messages for each person, they should automatically be approved in advance. Please give me the steps I need to follow to select ALL members and unmoderate them!?!?!?!
Thanks, Kathryn


Re: Secondary Email

 

Marcio,

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The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.
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Make sure you've set a password on your Groups.io account page. While you still can.
?
With a password you'll still be able to log into your Groups.io account using the old email address and that password to log in, even after the old address has been shut down by Yahoo (or whichever service you were using).
?
Then, if and when you find that you need to change your email address (someday has come and it just stopped working) use the steps Bruce gave you. In that scenario, after logging in to Groups.io with the old address your? first order of business should be to replace the old address with a new working email address. Presto you're good to go.
?
Note:
?
If you use Groups.io's web interface on a regular basis it isn't a disaster if you haven't set a password - your login is remembered in a browser cookie and you won't get logged out just because your email address went bad. If that happens to you unexpectedly, DON'T PANIC. Go to your Groups.io account page and change to a working email address as soon practical.
?
Well, maybe do panic about all of the other consequences of losing your email address. But at least your Groups.io account won't be another casualty. Unless maybe you have your browser or security software set up to discard cookies at the drop of a hat.
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Shal
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Re: Secondary Email

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 07:30 AM, Marcio wrote:

What exactly you've set up for your account? As I said, I've only set up an email, it never asked mefor anything else apart from an email and a password.
You can go to groups.io and when you try to sign in with your email account, it will ask for a password. Choose the selection that indicates you don't have a password. It will send an email to your current email address inviting you to set up a password. Follow that link. Then if yahoo quits on you, you can go in through the groups.io home page, sign in with the yahoo email address and your password. Then you can get into your account and change the email address. It will send a confirmation to your new email.
~Sandy


Re: Notes for moderators

 

When I expand my admin setting, then click on the little triangle on the blue members button, I can choose either "past" or "banned" members. That list will pop up. If I click on their email address, their account will pop up. I just checked and I can still access the notes as well as the activity history.
~Sandy


Re: Secondary Email

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 01:35 AM, Marcio wrote:
Confused. Here's what it reads:
On the edit profile page, you can change your email address. Once you do so, you will receive a new confirmation email. Once you reply to that, you will be all set.
Now the question is: How in the earth will I be able to reply through an email if said email isn't working? :(
Marcio -- Let me try to explain this step by step.

1) First, you need to somehow get logged in under the old email address. If you visit the site frequently enough, your existing login should remain active. Alternatively, you could still achieve a login by entering your old email address and a previously-established password.?

If you are not already logged in and you haven't established a password, then you will indeed be stuck. That's why I recommend that everyone set up a password, even if they usually use the "email me a link" approach to log in. Go do it. Now.

2) Assuming that you have somehow achieved a login, go to the Account page that I previously mentioned (/account).?

3) At the top of that page you will find a box labelled "Email." Type your new email address into this box, overwriting the one currently there.

4) Click the "Change Email" button. I believe a dialog box will pop up, confirming that you want to do this.

5) A confirmation email will be sent to your NEW email address. I can only assume that you somehow have access to this address, otherwise you wouldn't have typed it into the box in step 3.?

6) Respond to that email and the change will be completed.

I would include screenshots, but that would require me to make a change to my own account, and I don't want to do that. So I hope this is adequate.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Notes for moderators

 

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 09:30 AM, Steve wrote:
mine is a paid group and wouldn't have a clue where to look for member information after they are gone.
I can't verify it since I don't have a paid group, but I believe it becomes a drop down on the members page (where you can choose members, bouncing, etc.)? The most recent information says their Notes should remain.

Duane
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Re: Secondary Email

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Donald,
I set up an account here first before creating or joining any groups, so I am not familiar with an email-only experience
My question is still the same :)
What exactly you've set up for your account? As I said, I've only set up an email, it never asked mefor anything else apart from an email and a password.
That's why I also asked if, even if Yahoo stops working, it will be enough to just type in my email and password and it will? be treated as a group.io account, which would have nothing to do with my email itself.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.