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Promoting One's Groups.io Group
#howto
Dear GMF Members,
We moved our group from Y!Gs to Groups.io about a year ago as a premier group. It worked out fine and Groups.io is stable and easy to use, so that is not the problem. It seems that some members maybe were resistant to moving (after all) or didn't want to learn how to use a new group, even though we asssured them that it would be nearly the same experience as it was on Y!G. Anyway, our new posting activity has fallen off severely and we need to promote our group somehow and attract new members. I have heard that there are some ways to do that , such as with keywords that browsers like Google, etc., will look for when someone does sa search for groups like ours, but I do not know how to go about getting a browser like Google to find those words and make a hit on our group so people will see that we are available. I searched quite a bit online but did not find anyting that explained how to acomplish this group-recognition-feat, so now I'm turning to GMF for some guidance and/or instruction. Any suggestions or explanations would be welcome. Fingers X-ed! Paul M. CostaRicaLiving /g/CostaRicaLiving == NOTE: This is a repost to correct typos in the original. -pm == |
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Re: Poll results
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 04:47 PM, marcio wrote:
First, is there a way for editing the poll without sending it to the group, like we can do with a normal topic?Every time you edit an existing poll, a new notification is sent. This occurs even if you don't change the question or any of the allowed responses. It's a little annoying, for sure. Second, if when the "don't show who responded" is checked even a mod can't see the members, how would I do if I want to see the members but don't want other members to see themselves? Is it not possible then?I would check the second box: "Only moderators and poll creators can view results and responders, regardless of whether the poll is open or closed." If you want to allow subscribers to view the final results without viewing who responded, I don't know how to do that. Perhaps someone else can help. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Poll results
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 03:38 PM, marcio wrote:
Then, it doesn't matter if I check/uncheck the box regarding seeing members? With this box checked/unchecked, either way I will be able to see who voted?Oh I see, you're talking about the "Do not show who responded to the poll" checkbox (last box in the list)? You're correct...if that box is checked, even the poll creator/moderators cannot see who responded, but they can see what the votes were, even before the poll is closed. I never check that box; but if you edit your poll, uncheck it, and save, you should now be able to see them...even if the poll is still open. This of course assumes that anybody has actually voted correctly. Good luck, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Poll results
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 03:09 PM, marcio wrote:
I created a poll and was noticing something strange. The results simply weren't matching with the answers given.Subscribers must click the link in the poll notification, log in to groups.io (if not already logged in), and vote online. If they instead send emails in response to the poll notification, those responses will not be recorded. So initially I checked the box for don't seeing members who answered. With this happening, I edited the poll and unchecked it.If you created the poll, you should be able to view results at any time. Return to the poll and click on the "See Results" link, immediately to the right of the "Vote Now" (or "Change Vote") button. Once you do that, you will find a blue button on the resulting page that says "See Who Responded." See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Polls. Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Custom Direct Add message
#addmembers
#messages
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 02:51 PM, Neal Caidin wrote:
But the message I created appears appended to the message that had been there already, not instead of. Is there a way to REPLACE the existing message instead?Creating a Member Notice of type Direct Add affects only the section of text inserted after "The Group moderators have included the following important message:".? Eliminating the canned wording that groups.io provides is not an available feature, nor can any of this text be changed to a different language.? P.S. What variables are available to use in addition to [NAME] ?There are no available variables. To my knowledge, even inserting [NAME] in another location will not work. I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Groups.io e-mail address hierarchy/aliasing
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBrian,? ? ? ? ? No, I don't mean??[email protected] Actually, you do. Except in those cases it is [email protected] I wrote: Note that main is the default for the primary group's name, but the group owner can choose any name for the primary group, just as he/she can for the subgroups. And that's what's happened here: the group owner chose to give the primary group the same name as the common name (groupname). See page. This is not an alternative format. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Groups.io e-mail address hierarchy/aliasing
Brian, in addition to [email protected]?or I'm not sure this format was ever in use, though it was discussed when the subgroup feature was under development. As time went by, there was a transition where [email protected]?became common for the posting address ...
You mean [email protected], I think. and GROUPNAME+{insert postfixes above here}@GROUPNAME.groups.io ... Likewise, [email protected] It is my understanding that any given group or subgroup has an "automatically generated" list of aliases for all of the above addresses, but have no idea of exactly what the equivalents are, if any, beyond the old style originals and the equivalents. The only aliasing I'm aware of is between a primary group's original email address, and its "subdomain" style address Note that main is the default for the primary group's name, but the group owner can choose any name for the primary group, just as he/she can for the subgroups. However groupname, as used above, remains as the collective identifier for the primary group and all of its subgroups. The term "subdomain" comes out of internet dotted addressing conventions: subdomain.domain.tld (top-level-domain), e.g. . Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Bouncing member not receiving probe
Greg, She has informed me that she hasn't received any messages from the group for quite some time. Groups.io has her listed as bouncing with a red box with a white letter "B". That's why she's not receiving group messages - both Bouncing (blue) and Bounced (red) status means Groups.io has stopped sending ordinary group messages. Please click on her row (anywhere but the check box) to open her Membership page. Then click the Email Delivery History tab to see what reason(s) sbcglobal gave for bouncing group message(s). Report them here if you want help understanding the Reason(s). I clicked on the "Send Message" button, and she received a message from the group's owner (me). I clicked on "Send Bounce Probe", but she says she didn't receive anything from the bounce probe. That's interesting. It is possible that sbcglobal misdirected the bounce probe into her Spam folder, that would be a place she should check if she hasn't already. She'll need to receive a bounce probe in order to "unbounce" her Groups.io account (the Bouncing or Bounced status affects all of her Groups.io subscriptions, if she's in more groups than just yours). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Can't interact with a Message sent to the Owner's email
Marcio,
In earlier times I would create an account in Thunderbird that had the group's +owner address as its address. I'd configure it to send by way of my default SMTP server (my ISP's server) using my normal ISP address and credentials. I'd leave the POP/IMAP fields unused because it has nowhere to check for incoming mail. Selecting that address in the From field drop-list would produce a "spoofed" email message: one that says it is From the +owner address, but the sender is my normal ISP address. Since most recipients probably wouldn't inspect the message header I considered that "good enough". This technique used to be (may still be) possible within the Yahoo Mail and Gmail interfaces also, with some fuss. These days though both sending services and receiving services are "cracking down" on messages spoofed in this fashion, so I'm no longer confident that the technique would be effective, even if your sending service still allows it. You can do a non-spoof version of the same thing in Thunderbird by using an account that has your normal address as its address, but has something like "Groupname Moderator" as its Display Name. This will give the recipient the desired impression of who it is from, and if you couple that with use of Reply-To then any reply will go to the +owner address rather than your own. Hmm... Good idea, glad you made me think of it (I'll have to try it someday).
I think so too. I haven't gone searching in beta to cite where it has been discussed before, but I'm fairly certain that it has. It may have been part of some other topic or seen as something to be done together with some larger feature. Whatever the case it hasn't (yet) been implemented. If you want to advocate for the feature you may wish to create a new topic in beta suggesting it. You'll improve the odds that Mark takes notice if you describe a use case, and also if you can find and cite prior discussions. (My theory: the less time he has to spend on understanding the suggestion the more time he'll likely spend on implementing it). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Email Change
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 07:03 AM, Becky Landy wrote:
when I try and update it says that the server can't be found.As when you create a new group, it takes awhile for the new group address to "stick."? See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group?for details (and a few other issues you might encounter). Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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