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Re: Deleting a bounced e-mail address that later subscribed successfully

Brian Vogel
 

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blurry photos??

 

we have some flyers (jpeg) that when posted onto our groups are blurry. the original is perfectly clear.? ideas?


Re: Deleting a bounced e-mail address that later subscribed successfully

 

Brian,


... when a member tried to subscribe initially the request bounced (and that's noted in the Members list) but that they succeeded right afterward.

Um, what?

If they were trying to use the +subscribe email command, and that bounced, there would be no record of that in the Members list. Not even the Pending Approval list (for a group with Restricted Membership).
I don't have a Premium group, but I don't think a failure like that would be regarded as a Past member either.

In fact, as stated, I don't think the attempt would even make it to the group's Activity log.

So, can you provide some additional detail to help un-confuse me? In my head the word "bounced" is tied too strongly to email messages to provide any sensible connotation for what you're describing with respect to a membership.

The Members list is messy when you have a number of these bounced entries, and I want to be certain that I can delete those, and those alone, without having the side effect of actually unsubscribing the member entirely when they used the same address to subscribe, and it later worked.

As far as I know, the same email address can never have more than one row in the Members list. So what you're describing makes no sense. That same statement is apparently not true of the Past Members (or whatever it is called) available only to Premium groups, so perhaps that's where you're looking?

Can anyone confirm that this side effect will not occur and that it's safe to cull the bounced entries?

If you select the Bouncing list that should include only rows with Bouncing (blue B) or Bounced (red B) status. That list also should never contain the same email address twice.

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I'm pretty sure it would be safe to remove any entries there without fear of removing someone with normal status.

Shal


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Re: Remove a Member

 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:12 PM, ASCA Manager wrote:
This person is not and has never been the owner of the group. Any thoughts?
On the web UI click on Members in the column on the left. Then using the "blue tab" above the Display Name column select Moderators. This will give a list of those with Moderator status, which by definition includes anyone designated as an Owner. Does this person appear in this list??

Then click anywnere on the person's Display Name or email address; this will take you to a page listing everything about them as a member. A little way down the page there is an entry called Role; does it say Owner or Moderator below this? If you have Owner privileges then you could change this now, but I suggest that you don't. Then click on Activity History, to the immediate right of the blue "Membership" tab. Using the pull - down at the right hand end of the Actions box select Moderator Changed, and click on Search.

This will produce a list of actions in which either (a) the person concerned changed someone else's moderation status, or (b) had their moderation status changed by somebody else. Work your way through the list to find who promoted the person to Owner, and approach them to find out why.

What you do thereafter is up to you, but make sure that no - one does it to you first! However, if the person is listed as the sole owner then your own status might well not be that of (co)Owner; despite your being "owner" you might find that you are actually "just" a moderator.

If you see what I mean...

Chris


Re: Remove a Member

 

ASCA Manager,


"The member cannot be removed because they are the sole owner of the group."

This person is not and has never been the owner of the group. Any thoughts?

If you're sure you haven't accidentally checked your own row as well, and that the row you've checked doesn't have the Owner badge, then I'd screenshot that and send it to [email protected].

As an alternative to using the Actions menu you can click on the person's row (anywhere but the checkbox) to open that person's subscription page. At the bottom of that page there's a red Remove button you can try.

Shal


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Remove a Member

 

Hello,

I am trying to remove someone from the member list. I am the current owner of the group. When I check the box next to the name and go to remove this message appears at the top.."The member cannot be removed because they are the sole owner of the group."

This person is not and has never been the owner of the group. Any thoughts?

Thank you


Re: Hi everyone a few ?s

 

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 01:31 PM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
It seems like if you have people in your group that A.) don't contribute and B.) don't receive the email, why not just boot them from your group?
In my case, one of my groups is to help folks with a particular vehicle (that isn't made any more.)? There are 1700 members, about 450 of whom are on "no email", but read online.? I wouldn't want to kick them off just because they don't post.? Hopefully they're learning about their vehicle and all their questions have been answered, but that doesn't mean they won't post some day.

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Re: Hi everyone a few ?s

 

It seems like if you have people in your group that A.) don't contribute and B.) don't receive the email, why not just boot them from your group?


Deleting a bounced e-mail address that later subscribed successfully

Brian Vogel
 

I am finding that there are occasions where, for whatever reason, when a member tried to subscribe initially the request bounced (and that's noted in the Members list) but that they succeeded right afterward.

I would love to delete the entries for bounced address, and since there is a separate checkbox for the bounced entry and the entry that worked, I would presume I can do that.? However, since the "success address" is the same, and when I go to remove the bounced the pop-up is saying "unsubscribe" I fear that this may have the unintended effect of simply unsubscribing the e-mail address entirely, which is NOT what I want to do.

The Members list is messy when you have a number of these bounced entries, and I want to be certain that I can delete those, and those alone, without having the side effect of actually unsubscribing the member entirely when they used the same address to subscribe, and it later worked.

Can anyone confirm that this side effect will not occur and that it's safe to cull the bounced entries?

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Re: #question about copying #question #subgroups

 

There's an item on the TODO list that should cover this eventually -

Suggestions should be made on the beta group.

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Re: New file upload message

 

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Back in my Y days of moderation that has carried over to Groups.io, I used to get a notification of a file upload (with the name of the file), but I don¡¯t know or remember if any of the members got the notification too. In our group¡¯s case uploaded files were done mainly to add to our library of the knowledge, or for members to add photos to their photo albums. Uploading files or photos wasn¡¯t meant to start a discussion, unless the member that did the upload also sent a post to the group about the upload.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy W
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 1:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] New file upload message

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Hi Shal,

I think what you want to suggest (on beta) is that these notifications always be treated as a New Topic.

I wanted to see if anyone had any other thoughts before posting on Beta.? I did think about having the filename as part of the subject but some filename could be long and I find that long message subjects are not always well presented on some displays like mobile devices.? For my own purposes, having the ability to add a hashtag would be great.? I'll move this over to beta now.

Thanks
Andy


#question about copying #question #subgroups

 

Hello! I am assuming it is not possible, but I am giving this a go just in case! We create different subgroups for each of our events and it would save me a ton of time if I could make a copy of a subgroup and then just tweak the subgroup name and email instead of setting each up from scratch each time. I would love if hashtags, wikis, settings (incl member notices), were all copied over to a new subgroup.

OR, if this is not possible, is it possible to create a subgroup template? Again, probably not, but figured I would ask.?

If none of this is possible, how do I go about making recommendations to Groups.io for this kind of functionality?

Thank you for your help!


Merge messages to account #howto

 

Do you have a idea to do?
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Re: New file upload message

 

Hi Shal,
I think what you want to suggest (on beta) is that these notifications always be treated as a New Topic.
I wanted to see if anyone had any other thoughts before posting on Beta.? I did think about having the filename as part of the subject but some filename could be long and I find that long message subjects are not always well presented on some displays like mobile devices.? For my own purposes, having the ability to add a hashtag would be great.? I'll move this over to beta now.

Thanks
Andy


Re: Hi everyone a few ?s

 

On 2019/04/11 05:26 AM, Debbie via Groups.Io wrote:

1. Does anyone know how or can we even do this..Make sure members that are on either special notice or no mail stop them from seeing the mail and not let them download anything that was sent. I see it this way if your gone no right for you to get gooides..
I'm no expert, and just thinking out loud, but: if you have a lot of
such "sleeping" members, and you want to distinguish between them,
couldn't you create a subgroup that is reserved for "non-sleeping"
members, set all members of the main group to "nomail" (or "special
notice"), and set all members of the subgroup to "individual mails?"

3. I am looking for a place where I can get some awesome Headers to
use for my groups, do not know of any.
Google for word+art+generator.

Samuel


Re: Hi everyone a few ?s

 

Debbie,

1. Does anyone know how or can we even do this..Make sure members that
are on either special notice or no mail stop them from seeing the mail
and not let them download anything that was sent.
There is no way to do that.

Groups.io is designed to allow group members to participate by web or email, either or both, member's choice. You (a group moderator) cannot close off either option.

You could delete messages as they post, so that there's nothing for web users to see. But that's basically circumventing the intent of the service.

2.Is there a way to hide your alias , I mean why does all these owners
I am on groups with that need to see all my names..?
I'm not sure what you mean by "alias". There are two forms of identification associated with each of your group subscriptions. One is your email address, the other is your Display Name.

There is no way to prevent group owners from knowing your email address. Nor even to prevent it from being sent to other group members with each message you post.

Your Display Name is under your control: you can set it to anything you want in any group, even different things in different groups. You can edit your Display name through your Profile page, available through the Subscription page in individual groups, or you can see them all in your account pages.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts

Another thing I am in groups with Paint Shop and I am looking for a
place where I can get some awesome Headers to use for my groups do not
know of any..
I don't know what you mean by "Headers", maybe another GMF member can help you with that. Or you may need to find a group for Paint Shop users.

Shal


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Hi everyone a few ?s

Debbie
 

First off I hope your all having a good day / night..

1. Does anyone know how or can we even do this..Make sure members that are on either special notice or no mail stop them from seeing the mail and not let them download anything that was sent. I see it this way if your gone no right for you to get gooides..

2.Is there a way to hide your alias , I mean why does all these owners I am on groups with that need to see all my names..?

Another thing I am in groups with Paint Shop and I am looking for a place where I can get some awesome Headers to use for my groups do not know of any.. Lately people want to be so snotty about things lol.. Let me know please I am not sure if this is a place that can help me ..

Debbie


Re: New file upload message

 

Andy,

No such message was sent and I found that all file uploads trigger the
same notification message subject and the fact that I locked the first
one prevented the second one from being sent.
I think what you want to suggest (on beta) is that these notifications always be treated as a New Topic.

I don't know if you want to also suggest that the Subject text be made unique somehow, but that doesn't matter as much as having it be a new topic irrespective of the Subject match.

The obvious thought for making the Subject unique would be to include the file name.

Shal



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Re: Banned domains?

 

Andy,

I've added a link to the Group Subscription section of the main Wiki
page to a new Banned Domains
Thanks for that page, it looks great!

On the home page I moved the link under the Group Management major section, Member Management subsection, as it isn't a function for members to use.

Shal


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Re: Table border not saved on wiki

 

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 09:28 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
The code that saves the edited page deliberately strips many HTML tags and parameters. Same for the message editor. Same for the code that processes an incoming email message for display.
Yep. Very aware of that.

I'm not sure what that code looks like, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it is structured as a "whitelist" of things to allow. That's about the only reasonably safe way to handle user-supplied HTML code. Otherwise you run the risk of some clever crook figuring out a code sequence to exploit your web site and/or its users.
Surely javascript, iframes, forms and such can be problematical. But -- with full acknowledgment that I'm not as clever the crooks -- I do struggle with seemingly benign inline styles.?

I am grateful to Tom for providing that bootstrap web site URL. Slogging through the style sheet itself to find what you want is a chore...even more so when minimized.

Regards,
Bruce
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