I ask because my members keep telling me their birthdays aren't on there even though I put them on and I c an see them all.? Are they crazy or am I?

Thanks, we're new here and we love it.

Beth

Do you mean ?

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On 3/8/2019 9:32 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people
seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're
not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the
files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an
issue for some, but not others.
It seems obvious that GIO is not changing it, so this must be happening with their email client. Have those who are experiencing this problem check their client settings to see if there is something that would affect it. If they aren't savvy enough to do so, let us know what client/OS they are using and maybe we can look it up.
Hope this helps,
Bruce

Is it possible that the original file names are using an n-dash or m-dash typographical character instead of a hyphen? This might cause a problem depending on whether the message is sent as plain text versus HTML.

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Hi,

I found several references and requests in the GMF and beta archives to have the ability to add attachments to calendar invites, but it doesn't appear to exist.

Am I missing something or is it in the pipeline?

Andy

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 02:12 AM, Mike Lease wrote:

Hello,

I run a couple of groups for baseball leagues, using APBA's Baseball for Windows. When people attach files, apparently some (though not all?) are getting renamed in a way that makes the software not recognize them as BBW files. The file names are in the format "C-[name].LPF" and "F-[name].LPF". The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_"), and this causes the software to ignore that when I try to load Commissioner or Franchise files. If I catch it when I save the attached files, I can rename them to the right format, but if I don't, I may think that someone has failed to send me a file at all. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks,
Mike

Mike,

I cannot duplicate what you say is happening.?However, I did note some unexpected behavior?somewhat related to what you are saying.

As a test, I included several attachments in an email. All attachments arrived fully safe and sound as distributed to the group via email.?Two of the 4 files were not saved online, but that wasn't totally unexpected as they were empty files. The other two files, one with hyphens and the other with underscores in the name were correctly saved with the filename as uploaded.

I repeated the same test via the web interface to upload files to the Files directory. The files with content were saved with the filenames intact. Again, the empty files were not saved. The upload went through all of the motions, but there were no messages at all and nothing was actually saved.

Finally, we come?to something more directly related to your issue. This message is being posted using the web UI. The online File upload UI does convert the hyphen to an underscore, but only in the UI. The file is saved with the correct hyphen character in it. At least it did when I first tried this as a test. This graphic file showing the behavior in a previous test should be named?Hyphen-Test.jpg.





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On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Mike Lease wrote:

Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an issue for some, but not others.

It seems obvious that GIO is not changing it, so this must be happening with their email client. Have those who are experiencing this problem check their client settings to see if there is something that would affect it. If they aren't savvy enough to do so, let us know what client/OS they are using and maybe we can look it up.
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You can already turn off the Message-ID substitution, with the downside that Gmail will not place the returned message in your Inbox (IIRC it does show as a second copy in your Sent folder). Or you can leave it on, with the downside that your user interface might have wanted to use the Message-ID for threading. I don't see that there's anything else?can do for you.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 01:51 PM, Duane wrote:

On the Calendar, the event still exists, but was changed to a gray bar (instead of the red that was chosen when creating the event) and says "This event has been canceled." when hovered over and in the event description.

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 04:22 AM, Kenny Paul wrote:

There is nothing to differentiate a real meeting from a cancelled one when viewed from a subscribed cal.

Kenny -- These two statements strike me as mutually exclusive. Did you wait a few hours for the subscribed calendar to update? Such updates are subject to a polling schedule and do not occur in real time.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Kenny Paul wrote:

Suggested work-around(s)??

You may just have to get into the habit of deleting cancelled events instead of using the GIO "cancel" function, in concert with a manual notification. The option also exists to edit the event description to anything you feel would provide adequate notification that it isn't going to occur.

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Bruce
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It appears to be an attachment, not a link. I use Thunderbird to read my email, and that's how it shows up (in Yahoo groups, it's clearly a link, but groups.io seems to be sending them along as actual attachments). The problem is, it's not consistent. Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an issue for some, but not others. Thanks.

Hi

Then decided to look at a photo album to see if I could ascribe correct ownership to it. ? To my great surprise and concern, it had been done (was blank last week) with the name of the very recently approved member

FYI.? There's a thread on beta covering this same topic and a possible suggestion as to the reason why.



Andy

Hi Mike,

The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_")

I've just tried sending a message to one of my test subgroups with an attachment called C-Test1.lpf and it gets sent back to me and my other test account as that.? There is no renaming going on that I can see.

In an effort to eliminate the obvious, can you confirm that you are looking at an attachment when you receive a message and not just a link to it?? The settings to determine whether groups.io sends a file or a link are in the Advanced Preferences of the member settings for each group.

Regards,
Andy

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 03:42 AM, Will Teagarden wrote:

If I tell it don't send it saves. If I tell it to send it still doesn't.?

I reported this to support and I've received a message from Mark to say it had been fixed.? I've just tested it and it works OK now.

Andy

The key issue we have is that virtually everyone is subscribed to a Gio calendar are are never using the web interface other than the first time when they subscribe to the cal. There is nothing to differentiate a real meeting from a cancelled one when viewed from a subscribed cal.
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Received from Shal Farley at 3/7/2019 11:00 PM UTC:

You can already turn off the Message-ID substitution, with the downside that Gmail will not place the returned message in your Inbox (IIRC it does show as a second copy in your Sent folder). Or you can leave it on, with the downside that your user interface might have wanted to use the Message-ID for threading. I don't see that there's anything else Groups.io can do for you.

Yes!

I think it's time for Gmail users to give Groups.io a break and start asking Gmail to provide them with an option - or a more visible option that doesn't require asking GMF where to find it - that completely bypasses this nonsense that doesn't permit them to receive copies of their own messages sent from Gmail without unwanted side effects.

The problem is 100% with Gmail, not Groups.io. Like Microsoft, Google is the 500 lb gorilla who sleeps wherever the heck he wants to. If I had a gorilla wanting to sleep where I slept, I'd sleep elsewhere. There are less troublesome places than Gmail to use as an email provider.

Jim H

Hello,

I run a couple of groups for baseball leagues, using APBA's Baseball for Windows. When people attach files, apparently some (though not all?) are getting renamed in a way that makes the software not recognize them as BBW files. The file names are in the format "C-[name].LPF" and "F-[name].LPF". The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_"), and this causes the software to ignore that when I try to load Commissioner or Franchise files. If I catch it when I save the attached files, I can rename them to the right format, but if I don't, I may think that someone has failed to send me a file at all. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks,
Mike

?When I sign up? for a webinar and it is subsequently cancelled, I get notification which is essentially like an RSVP
If I don't sign up and the webinar is cancelled, I'm not informed that it was cancelled except in a very small percentage of the time.
Also, if the webinar is cancelled I don't necessarily see a cancelled sign hung out on its' location either.

At least, if you cancel a meeting at gio (in a premium group) you get the opportunity to notify your RSVPs
AND the meeting grays out with a mouse over showing Cancelled

If people aren't interested in a meeting they most likely will not bother to click the Not Attending button and wouldn't care if the meeting disappeared without notice.
Unlike Google calendar, which only give delete and no cancel function.
Seems to me that's better than most calendar (free or very low cost) systems I've seen in my more than half century in software.
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The most recent attempt had the same result. The writer of the initial post is not moderated and I am a group moderator.?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:22 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

It's a common misunderstanding.

Groups.io never fails to send your own emailed posts back to your email. Assuming of course that your subscription is set up to receive all messages by email.

The issue is that Gmail customarily "hides" them (puts them into your Sent folder, not your Inbox). So most Gmail users' impression (including those using a POP or IMAP client) is that Groups.io isn't returning their messages - unless the Message-ID substitution option (I always want copies of my own emails) in their Account Preferences is checked.

Ah, perfect! Thank you for your help in understanding this matter.

I'll have that user uncheck their "I always want copies of my own
emails" so that they don't see this issue and return to testing.

Kind regards,
Stephano

Thanks for the insight Duane.
Definitely a substantial challenge for broad based community utilization and acceptance and one we are struggling with, because folks figure when they've cancelled something, everyone gets notified.

Did a quick scan of beta but didn't see anything relative to this, so guess where I'm headed next ;-)

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