Hi,

I've been using groups.io since the start of the year, evaluating it for a potential move of 1000+ members of my club from various Y! groups and another Forum to here.? I think all of the site updates and messages from support I have received have come from Mark Fletcher.? It seems he does an excellent job in maintaining the site but I'm wondering if he is a single point of failure? What happens if the proverbial bus comes along and Mark is suddenly not available?? Is there a team behind Mark that is capable of continuing development and support or will groups.io cease to be supported?

Thanks,
Andy

Hi,

I've seen the chatter about allowing members of parent groups to post to subgroups but I'm not sure if this is working as it was maybe intended.

I have these settings for my subgroup:



If I post (via email) from a member of the parent group that is not a member of this subgroup then the message is moderated as it was before when only 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' was set.

If I uncheck the 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' option and post again, the message is rejected with:

groups.io gave this error:
Your email address, andy_wedge@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit ?

If the 'Allow Non Subscribers to Post' option is required and messages are moderated, then 'Allow Parent Subscribers to Post' on its own seems to serve no purpose as it stands.

Regards,
Andy

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Just seems waste of time to having to pre-approve all new sender's emails.

Br Peter

Peter,
I think there are over 500,000 subscribers who depend upon groups.io to provide continuous and consistent service.
Allowing individual groups' owners to endanger the ability of groups.io to remain a non blacklisted email provider to those people is far more important that the minor effort required by owners to properly educate their subscribers about this issue.
It is simply a case where the good of all far outweighs individual desires.

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Bob is right. This syndrome has a name, the Tragedy of the Commons, where individual needs combined in isolation produce negative results for the group as a whole.

Best,

Glenn

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:40 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

I think there are over 500,000 subscribers who depend upon groups.io to provide continuous and consistent service.

It's nearer 4,000,000 based on my most recent member's ID (3745311)!? And those members belong to over 11,000 groups.

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Peter,
I think there are over 500,000 subscribers who depend upon groups.io to provide continuous and consistent service.
Allowing individual groups' owners to endanger the ability of groups.io to remain a non blacklisted email provider to those people is far more important that the minor effort required by owners to properly educate their subscribers about this issue.
It is simply a case where the good of all far outweighs individual desires.

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For future reference, I've created a new wiki page:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-RSVPs-work.

Most of the content has been plagiarized from Andy's post on this subject. It remains a little crude, so feel free to fine-tune it.

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On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 08:48 PM, Jane Taylor wrote:

do they have to log in to Groups.io or can they do it without logging in? Critical because some of our older members are too confused to create accounts

Bruce gave you the answer this morning, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/14933

A person's email address is their account, so they don't need to create anything.? They can even log in without creating a password, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

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Question, when they go to rsvp to an event sent to them online, do they have to log in to Groups.io or can they do it without logging in? Critical because some of our older members are too confused to create accounts so they just have the emails-only functionality.

Attached is an example of an RSVP screen. I didn't populate everything when I set up this event but it should give you an idea.

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On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:42 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Do #cal-reminders also have the RSVP link?

To answer my own question:? Yes.?

So that's good.

Had to do the testing in ShalsTest, because RSVPs are a Premium-only feature.?

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Hi,

I've been doing some testing of that function and from what I've seen it works OK but there's a limitation. Here's a summary of what I've found so far:

• Events can be added to a calendar and an RSVP requested.
• Emailed invitees get a link to use the RSVP function which you have to do online (you can't RSVP by email)
• An event can be limited to a certain number of people and if you RSVP within the limit you get confirmation that you are on the event.
• If you RSVP to say you wish to attend and the event is already full, you are added to a wait list and there is a message shown at the top of the screen to confirm this.
• Someone placed on the waitlist is told their position on the list as they are added. I've not seen any way of checking to see if you have moved up the list once you are on it.
• There is an option for the event organiser can email all attendees.
• If an attendee updates their RSVP status to say they will no longer attend, the first person on the waitlist is automatically added and they receive an email to confirm this.

What I have found though is that event waitlists cannot be managed manually by the organiser. So, for example, if you know that a confirmed attendee can no longer attend but they are either unable or unwilling to update their RSVP status to free up a space for someone else, you cannot do it for them.? The only way you can effectively add the next person on the waitlist to the event is by adding another space. I have raised this issue with support (ticket 8127 on 28-Jan-19) and received the following response from Mark:

Unfortunately there is currently no way to change RSVPs at the owner level. It's on the TODO list, but I'm not sure when it will happen.

So, I wouldn't bet that this will change anytime soon.

I hope that helps for now.

Regards,
Andy

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:58 AM, Jane Taylor wrote:

And then if we do that, can they just click "rsvp" or do they have to log in?

RSVPs work in a manner that is very similar to polls. The link in the #cal-invite takes you to the groups.io site, where you have to click a button to Accept/Decline. And if you aren't logged in, you have to do that first. Unfortunately, a large subset of the Subscribers in my groups find logging in to be too burdensome, and instead respond via email. You might have more success in your group, but it's mainly for this reason that I find these functions to have limited utility.?

One thing I'm unsure of, since I don't regularly use it...many of our events are set up months in advance and people simply do not know if they're going to be able to attend when the #cal-invite goes out. Do #cal-reminders also have the RSVP link??If not, they should.

Hope this helps,
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Duane
We are not using integration so "Slack Integration" is not the culprit.
Don

I can't seem to find information relating to Premium Groups. Such as: what is the cost, how they compare with free groups, etc?
Can someone point me in the right direction?

I have that same question. We are debating going to the paid upgrade to be able to just add members to our group that our untechnical, and the event rsvp feature is a big bonus. And then if we do that, can they jus click "rsvp" or do they have to log in?

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 07:47 AM, peter holm wrote:

It should be the owner's choice if spamfilter is enabled or not, and not groups.io developers!!!

Mark, please reconsider this.

Mark is the site owner (and developer, bug fixer, etc.) and has made his decision.? As was mentioned earlier, you could simply approve each member as they apply, then you wouldn't need any of the other settings for additional filtering.

No one from Groups.io management monitors this group.? If you want to make a suggestion for a change or improvement, you need to join the beta group and post it there,

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