On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:44 PM, Duane wrote:

I've also never figured out exactly where they're stored,

Look at the link in the post they were attached to.

Here's a couple of url samples. The numbering system is

xxx: Message# (in that group)
y: File# in the message. eg) 0 for the first file, 1 for the second and so on


https://....groups.io/g/main/attachment/xxx/y/color_palettes_v3.dbf
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Sorry, I should have also mentioned Admin, Activity.

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Tiffany, why don't you check your own subscription settings. Be sure to click on Advanced Preferences.

And Email Delivery History. In Subscription.

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:44 PM, Duane wrote:

Maybe there needs to be an "emailed files" folder, similar to the "emailed photos" folder?

Well that's a can of worms that I'm not going to open on beta; someone else can! As it happens the group I moderate has attachments disabled anyway. I might try uploading a "big" pdf (not here!) to see if it adds to any of the available totals simply out of curiosity; I can always delete it again.

Chris

Attachments DO take storage space, /static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group.? I've also never figured out exactly where they're stored, but know that they can be deleted by deleting them from the message.? Maybe there needs to be an "emailed files" folder, similar to the "emailed photos" folder?

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Hi there,
I am experiencing a new problem with out group. It seems that some messages are making it through to email, but others are not. I'm not yet certain if everyone is having this issue, or just me.
When I am logged into the group, I can see all the messages, but some of them never came got delivered to my email. I've checked, deleted, spam, etc. just in case, and they are nowhere. What's strange is that this was never an issue until this month it seems. I am also unsure if it is just certain members whose messages are not being delivered. So far, there are two different members I can see messages from on the group page, that never made it to my email.
Anyone got an ideas what could be causing this???

Thanks so much for any help,
Tiffany

In doing some testing via shalstest I found that both pdf and Word documents could be sent as attachments; they appear as working clickable icons in the web UI and get sent out with the resulting email as attachments. (FWIW "attachments" do have to be enabled!)

However, I cannot find if they are "stored" anywhere - they certainly don't turn up among the "emailed photos" and they don't appear in Files either. Does anyone know where / how they are stored, and if they count towards a group's storage limit?

This isn't an "issue" but I am rather curious...

Chris

I am experiencing frustration with this new setting, too and preferred it the old way, without moderation of calendar reminders.??

Thanks,
Amy

She uses Thunderbird email client.

Thunderbird usually generates "User-Agent:" header line. I don't see such header line in the header you quoted. Message-Id also appears empty.

Please tell her to enter the group's email addresses in the To field and your email address in the Cc field, and post (or email me Lena{}lena.kiev.ua) the header of the copy you receive entirely, unredacted.

I read elsewhere that the Yahoo group transfer problem is fixed and transfers are now on again but when I go to the Yahoo Instructions I'm told this is not so.

Where are we on this?

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:15 AM, Scott Logan wrote:

I thought they would only be removed for MARKING a message spam, not when
Yahoo does so automatically.

Members will be removed when the spam folder is emptied with groups.io emails in it, regardless of how they got there.? If the member goes to the spam folder and marks them as 'not spam' regularly, it should eventually stop.

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 05:15 PM, Scott Logan wrote:

I thought they would only be removed for MARKING a message spam, not when
Yahoo does so automatically.

Thoughts/comments?

See this from the GMF wiki: Removed for Marking Messages as spam.

Chris

Greetings!

I have a member of my group that was removed for marking a message as spam.
Actually, I've had a couple of these, and understand they get an email to
resubscribe. I think the basic procedure is a great idea.

The issue in this case is the member uses Yahoo for his email (as do I; they
are my web host provider), and he said he did NOT mark it as spam, rather
Yahoo did so on its own.

I thought they would only be removed for MARKING a message spam, not when
Yahoo does so automatically.

Thoughts/comments?

Scott
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(envelope-from )

The email client (program) she uses generates non-standard messages and is not suitable for groups.io. Empty envelope-from is normal only for auto-replies, not human-typed messages. Ask her what she uses to send messages, likely it's some mobile app, possibly default for her uncommon smartphone, or an uncommon app. She needs to either configure it properly (which is most likely not trivial for a non-technical user) or use another app.

She uses Thunderbird email client. That's what I use and have no problem. ?

Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.

Don; you seem to have investigated this as far as is possible, so I think now is the time for a referral to support. Your researches have been worthwhile because you now have a far more detailed picture than you had earlier and that ought to make Mark's job much easier in pinpointing the source of the trouble.

Please let us know how turns turn out, including any explanation that is forthcoming.

Chris

I have one member who cannot post to groups.io at all. She keeps delivery
failure messages, and these are from several devices when both sending a
new message and trying to reply to an existing one. Here is her latest
bounce message. Ideas on what's happening here? She's never been able
to post to the groups since switching over, but she gets mail.

I suspect that the cause of the bounce is empty envelope-from:

(reading confirmation)

Return-Path: DKIM-Signature:

(envelope-from )

The email client (program) she uses generates non-standard messages and is not suitable for groups.io. Empty envelope-from is normal only for auto-replies, not human-typed messages. Ask her what she uses to send messages, likely it's some mobile app, possibly default for her uncommon smartphone, or an uncommon app. She needs to either configure it properly (which is most likely not trivial for a non-technical user) or use another app.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 08:20 AM, Andy W wrote:

Can someone clarify what exactly this function is cleaning?? Is it just related to UTM tracking references on a URL (see for a description of these) or does it do something completely different?

More generally, the "stuff" beyond the question mark in a URL is used to pass values to server-side variables (PHP and the like). We had a recent discussion here in GMF on the elaborate URL you get when you right-click on a topic in groups.io...for example, the thread I'm posting to now:

/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/groups_io_site_updates/29551395?p=,,,100,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,100,2,0,29551395?

[and now after "cleaning"...]

groups.io?

Having intercepted this message in moderation, we can see that's NOT what it's doing. It merely collapsed the displayed text into a hyperlink with only domain info, while the actual html reference is unaltered (okay, it changed the commas and such to hexidecimal). I pasted the original back above the cleaned link so you can see what happened.?
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Bruce?
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