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Re: Permalink to topic?

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 03:44 PM, Ken Kloeber wrote:
But is there an EASY way (a/k/a button) to create a link to the entire topic??

Or is this a BETA suggestion?
It depends on what you mean by "creating a link."?Assuming you want something you can paste into a message, copying a string (like a URL) to the clipboard with a mouse click is possible, but it requires javascript to be enabled and may not work at all with some older browsers (pre-2016, it required Flash to be installed). Having said that,?I'm sure Mark is more up-to-date on such stuff than I am...sounds like a beta suggestion to me.

If there is more than one message, I right-click on the "View All xx Messages in Topic" link below the message I'm reading and select "Copy Link Address" from the resulting browser popup. Not too terribly inconvenient.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Permalink to topic?

 

I can create a permalink?to a topic (to assure that the linker? Linkette? Linkestress? sees the entire thread instead of one message.?
But is there an EASY way (a/k/a button) to create a link to the entire topic??

Or is this a BETA suggestion?


Re: spam prevention for discussion lists

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 02:47 PM, Frank Greco wrote:
I'm just concerned I'll be spending an hour once a week purging spammer submissions.? ?I already do this with our WP website and its just a pain with hundreds of them.
In the year that I've been involved with groups.io, I don't recall seeing any inquiries along these lines in GMF. Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, objects in mirror may be closer than they appear.

Can we have some sort of delayed purge, that is, if a user is not approved after NN days, its auto-purged?
Pending subscriptions older than two weeks are automatically deleted (ref:?). Those in Pending and Not Confirmed status are also conveniently displayed on a separate, "Pending Approval" page in the member's list so they can be deleted earlier if desired.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: spam prevention for discussion lists

 

Hi Jonathan,

Before our group instituted a Captcha V2 on our WP website, we got hundreds of email addresses per week in our database that were obviously programmatically generated.
It was a major headache for us to regularly purge our DB.? Just wanted to know if Groups had any anti-spammer procedures to offset that.

An auto-purge after N days would be fairly easy to implement I would guess.

Frank

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:06 PM Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@...> wrote:
? ? I'm not sure what kind of list you will be running and why you think
it will attract hordes of spammers.? I don't say it never happens, but
I've been running several email lists for over 20 years and I've only
had one subscriber in all that time who I thought was a spammer and who
I banned.? There have been another half-dozen or so who I think had
their emails spoofed and who I then put on moderation and that solved
the problem.

? ? I just don't see this as being an issue.? Subscription requests have
to be approved and then new subscribers are on moderation for their
first 1 or more messages.? A spammer would have to be very dedicated and
spend a lot of time and effort on just your email list in order to get
to the point where it would be possible to send any spam to the list.? I
can't see that as being cost effective for a spammer.

Jonathan

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Re: Map view option for database tables

 

Andy,
I just finished playing around with an exported/imported copy of the Beta Mapping Database.
I found it very easy to manipulate.
  1. I exported/imported it as json so that I had a working copy.
  2. I modified my small sample .csv file's header row to match the Database's field names
  3. I Upload(ed) the rows in my sample csv file too the database to see what happened and they not only came in but the addresses all worked correctly.
  4. I then modified the name of one field in both my sample csv file and the database, deleted all but 1 row at the database and reuploaded my sample csv file and checked the result and it was fine.
  5. I finally modified all of the fields I needed to, changing the field type (didn't mess w/address: fields) in both the database and my sample csv file
  6. Deleted all but on row in the database.
  7. Uploaded my sample csv file to the database.
All of the above worked perfectly.? I've also added fields and changed field types to get what I want.
The? only issues I have are some proposed improvements I've asked for at

Like, resequencing the IDs, having more edit/viewing restriction options and accessing Google Maps Directions
I've got a Specialist's database of over 500 MDs just itching to get uploaded.
This is the easiest path to Google Maps I've ever found

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My mail not being received in one of my groups I own

Leeni
 

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I own 6 IO Groups
All my mail to 5 of the groups are being received to the group.
1 group, none of my mail seems to be going to the group.
I wonder why? I believe all my settings are correct - the same as in the other groups.
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Please let me know what could be causing this. My profile shows that there isn't any mail history. Ilene


Re: spam prevention for discussion lists

 

I'm not sure what kind of list you will be running and why you think it will attract hordes of spammers. I don't say it never happens, but I've been running several email lists for over 20 years and I've only had one subscriber in all that time who I thought was a spammer and who I banned. There have been another half-dozen or so who I think had their emails spoofed and who I then put on moderation and that solved the problem.

I just don't see this as being an issue. Subscription requests have to be approved and then new subscribers are on moderation for their first 1 or more messages. A spammer would have to be very dedicated and spend a lot of time and effort on just your email list in order to get to the point where it would be possible to send any spam to the list. I can't see that as being cost effective for a spammer.

Jonathan

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Re: CALENDAR

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 02:33 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
In the future would it be possible for you to cherry pick who you want to give access to?
Currently, the assignment of such responsibilities is achieved via the "Moderator Permissions" checkboxes in each Moderator's member record. To see what options are available, you first have to make someone a Moderator; but for your convenience I'm providing a screenshot.

There are already 14 fields here, and I have heard nothing to suggest that the list is going to be expanded anytime soon; but you can always make a suggestion to that effect .
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Regards,
Bruce
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Re: spam prevention for discussion lists

 

Thanks Bruce.

I'm just concerned I'll be spending an hour once a week purging spammer submissions.? ?I already do this with our WP website and its just a pain with hundreds of them.
Can we have some sort of delayed purge, that is, if a user is not approved after NN days, its auto-purged?

Frank

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 1:59 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 01:39 PM, Frank Greco wrote:
I can set the moderation level to N approved posts before a member can post unmoderated.
But I'm concerned spammers will just create (huge numbers of) dummy email addresses in an attempt to post.
Any email address must receive a message from and?respond to it?before it is allowed to post.?Dummy addresses of the kind you mention will be stuck in "Not Confirmed" status in your group indefinitely, and you can purge them at your leisure. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List?for details.

Existing account holders also receive a new confirmation email whenever they change their email address.

In the unlikely event that a spammer does get through, you can ban them. Premium groups can ban entire domains.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: CALENDAR

Ellen Bourne
 

Bruce, thank you for the information.? In the future would it be possible for you to cherry pick who you want to give access to?


Ellen
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It's time to start subtracting."





On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 1:48:04 PM EST, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 01:38 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
Is there away that you can give edit access to some people in the group with out giving everyone access or restricted access to the calendar?
You will have to make them Moderators to achieve this objective.

Go to Admin>Settings>Features>Calendar. Options get more restrictive as you go down the list. If I understand you correctly,?you will want to?select "Subscribers cannot view, Moderators can edit." If you want subscribers to be able to see the calendar but not edit it, select the option immediately above.

All Moderators (and Owners) will have this privilege. There is no way to assign the calendar edit privilege to a subset of your Moderators.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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"When things in your life are not adding up, it's time to start subtracting."


Re: spam prevention for discussion lists

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 01:39 PM, Frank Greco wrote:
I can set the moderation level to N approved posts before a member can post unmoderated.
But I'm concerned spammers will just create (huge numbers of) dummy email addresses in an attempt to post.
Any email address must receive a message from groups.io and?respond to it?before it is allowed to post.?Dummy addresses of the kind you mention will be stuck in "Not Confirmed" status in your group indefinitely, and you can purge them at your leisure. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List?for details.

Existing account holders also receive a new confirmation email whenever they change their email address.

In the unlikely event that a spammer does get through, you can ban them. Premium groups can ban entire domains.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: CALENDAR

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 01:38 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
Is there away that you can give edit access to some people in the group with out giving everyone access or restricted access to the calendar?
You will have to make them Moderators to achieve this objective.

Go to Admin>Settings>Features>Calendar. Options get more restrictive as you go down the list. If I understand you correctly,?you will want to?select "Subscribers cannot view, Moderators can edit." If you want subscribers to be able to see the calendar but not edit it, select the option immediately above.

All Moderators (and Owners) will have this privilege. There is no way to assign the calendar edit privilege to a subset of your Moderators.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help


spam prevention for discussion lists

 

I'm about to create a discussion list (receive-only emails) for our user group.? I can set the moderation level to N approved posts before a member can post unmoderated.
But I'm concerned spammers will just create (huge numbers of) dummy email addresses in an attempt to post.

Any advice appreciated.


CALENDAR

Ellen Bourne
 

Is there away that you can give edit access to some people in the group with out giving everyone access or restricted access to the calendar?
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Ellen Bourne

"When things in your life are not adding up, it's time to start subtracting."


Re: Map view option for database tables

 

...and I found a bug where you edit/update a row that has an address field, the country name is not retained so you cannot save the row without re-specifying it.

I've raised this as a bug on beta

Andy


Re: Map view option for database tables

 

Bruce,
The entire address has to be in one column?of type "address" (not text or paragraph or something like that). If you have it broken down into separate columns for address/city/state/zip it will not work.
Thanks - I have a working version now. I had the address fields in separate columns because that's how it was sepcified when I exported the other table. This means that you cannot just export table contents and load them back in elsewhere without doing some manipulation on any address fields first.

Andy


Re: How can I modify the default 20 Messages per page to unlimited? #messages #question

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 02:02 PM, <webmaster@...> wrote:
How can I modify the default 20 Messages per page to unlimited
Dear Anonymous...

"Messages per Page" is a setting in your Groups.io Account, rather than a "per group" function. Go to your Account, then Preferences, then scroll down within the Web Site Preferences section to Items Per Page and set 20/50/100/Infinite as required from the drop - down list. Finally don't forget to click on Update Preferences at the bottom or the change will not take effect.

Chris


Re: How can I modify the default 20 Messages per page to unlimited? #messages #question

 

How can I modify the default 20 Messages per page
The iterms per page are shown in your account preferences.? Assuming you are on a desktop browser, click on your name in the top right corner of the Groups.io window, and select Account.? Then go to the Preferences using the menu options down the left side.

Andy


How can I modify the default 20 Messages per page to unlimited? #messages #question

 

How can I modify the default 20 Messages per page to unlimited, so new messages can be seen by scrolling downward, instead of having to select a new page to read more messages?

Thanks, a New Owner


Re: you have reached the limit

 

The invite limit in Yahoo Groups is 100 per day.
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? Bob

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:26 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

No, that is not the best way. If you invite/add more than 20 people in any given day, it requires approval each time.

If I recall correctly, there was a similar restriction at Y!G.

Folks are making too much of this. Simply submit them all at once and wait. The delay involved is not prohibitive.?
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Regards,
Bruce

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