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K7LRK
 

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Hello:

Last Saturday I created a new group called LIARS (Lopez Island Amateur Radio Society). ?I then changed my email address. ?This resulted in me losing all ?connections ¡ª including LIARS. ?So right now LIARS has no-one who can approve new members.

Can someone help me recover may ownership of the LIARS group?

Clark
K7LRK



Moving Files

 

Hello.?

Is there a way to move an attachment from a message to a folder in the files section? I haven't been able to find anything about this is help or otherwise.

Thanks for your help.

Lou


Re: Deleting Attachemnts

 

Patrick,

will groups.io automatically begin dropping the oldest attachment? ?Or could it start deleting album photos and other stored files?
I was asking similar questions recently.? You can see the thread and the messages on the beta group I was pointed towards at:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/28973461#14182

Regards,
Andy


Re: Searching for activity by a former member

 

Is there a way to search for activity in a group by a member who unsubscribed?
On Members - Banned enter the email address of that unsubscribed member, click Ban User, then search in Activity, then on Members - Banned check the checkbox at the left from that email address, Actions - Unban.


Re: Thread issue

 

Alexis,

I totally agree with what you are saying, but would draw your attention (in
case you've missed it) to the fact that users can if they so choose quote the
message to which they are replying, regardless of whether they do so via the
web or from an email client (as I do), but you yourself seem to choose not to
do so. Some inconsistency here?

Jim Fisher

On 14 Jan 2019 at 10:12, Alexis wrote:

Thanks for the info Bruce..will need to request this as as it stands right now,
it is just ludicrous...to receive a reply to a message via email without any
reference to what it is referring to is just plain ludicrous and causes nothing
but problems.

I agree that groups.io should not enforce them by default, I am asking about
giving the group owners the option to enforce it or not. After all, some groups
the bulk of the members will access it online, other groups primarily via email.
As mentioned before if via email and only reading a response without the full
thread to access in the email, it becomes meaningless.

Lloyd, re-read my original email and my comment above...I did not ask how *you*
like to read your messages, I asked if it was possible to change some settings.
I appreciate your response, but please make sure it is relevant to the question
asked.

Alexis
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Re: Searching for activity by a former member

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 05:32 PM, David Grimm wrote:
But it raised 2 (minor) questions:
1. In this case, the display name was a common first name with an initial. Doing a search on that include some results with that I didn't need that included that name and the initial anywhere else in the post. Suggestions?
That is where the judicious use of the Mark 1 eyeball is the best option.
and
2. What would I have had to do if he had never set a display name? Enter the email address in the search?
IIRC anyone posting without having previously set a Display Name finds that Groups.io sets one automatically, based on the incoming email address, but exactly how it determines what the D/N ought to be is something I don't know. If you have his email address then a search in the Activity Log will prove helpful, as suggested by Margaret. Try All actions in the first instance.

Chris


Re: Customize invitation message

 

After editing the message at Admin > Settings, Member Notices, be sure to go to the bottom and click Update Notice.

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Re: Getting everything as Spam.

 

I would also add that your @aol.com list member should include the list email address into their Contacts section in AOL as well.? I have an AOL email address, and I have not had any of the issues your list member is reporting.? I suspect it is due to her not having your list's email address in her Contacts section, as well as not managing her Spam folder correctly in AOL (i.e., not checking it regularly, and marking any legitimate emails as "NOT SPAM", which sends a message back to AOL to NOT black list those emails/domains.)? So, make sure she checks her Spam folder daily, and any groups.io emails that land in there need to be marked as "NOT SPAM", which will reinstate the to her Inbox.? VERY important step.? She does that enough, and AOL will get the message, and stop directing your list emails to her Spam folder :-)

Patty Sliney



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Replying to email addresses

Leeni
 

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Okay, I recently changed my email address for all of my IO groups. It works fine.
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Now I don't know if I am the only one seeing my email address this way because I asked groups IO to send me my messages or everyone is seeing it.
?
It appears as this:
When mail is sent to the above email address it doesn't go through and an error message appears in my mail. So when it is clicked on or copied?to send a message a message can't be sent.
?
Now when I replied to?the same?email the reply looks like below which is what it should be and goes through.
?
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Customize invitation message

 

I set up a group with a few members as a test, and entered a customized invitation message. I'm now ready to go live and send out invitations, but when I change the customized message, it always reverts to the original message. How do I change it?


Re: #howto [un-ban someone] #howto

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 05:25 PM, Keith Muscott wrote:
Is banning?someone a permanent deal, then, or can I lift the ban in some way I haven't discovered?
That depends on what you have discovered! Go to Admin>Members>Banned. Click on the checkbox for the banned person at the left hand side of his listing. Click on Actions, then click on Unban.

Chris


Re: Deleting Attachemnts

Patrick Howle
 

Hi Chris,

That had been checked, so I'll wait and see what happens.

Thanks,

Patrick



From: Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Deleting Attachemnts

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 04:21 PM, Patrick Howle wrote:
will groups.io automatically begin dropping the oldest attachment? ?Or could it start deleting album photos and other stored files?
Files and Photos are left alone. Automatic deletion of attachments only applies if the correct setting is in place; see In Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Out of Space, be sure "Delete Old Attachments" is selected.as per Bruce's post.

Chris



Re: Searching for activity by a former member

 

I think you can also go to Activity, All Activity and search for either the display name or the email address. Don't specify an Activity or a Date. That should show if the unsubbed member was active in the group.
Margaret


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 01:52 AM, David Grimm wrote:
Is there a way to search for activity in a group by a member who unsubscribed?


Re: Searching for activity by a former member

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 06:14 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
Yes, provided that you know the Display Name that he used. Go to the Topics page and click on Search. Enter the Display Name into the search box and set the search in motion.
Thank you. That helped me find what I was looking for.

But it raised 2 (minor) questions:
1. In this case, the display name was a common first name with an initial. Doing a search on that include some results with that I didn't need that included that name and the initial anywhere else in the post. Suggestions?

and
2. What would I have had to do if he had never set a display name? Enter the email address in the search?

Dave


Re: Deleting Attachemnts

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 04:21 PM, Patrick Howle wrote:
will groups.io automatically begin dropping the oldest attachment? ?Or could it start deleting album photos and other stored files?
Files and Photos are left alone. Automatic deletion of attachments only applies if the correct setting is in place; see In Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Out of Space, be sure "Delete Old Attachments" is selected.as per Bruce's post.

Chris


#howto [un-ban someone] #howto

Keith Muscott
 

I recently banned someone from my io group because his email address looked dodgy and his?application was not run past me by io in the first place. He just appeared on there as a member, without posting.
After I'd?emailed him directly offsite to identify himself and got no response, I banned him after four days' silence.
I have checked my SPAM folder today and his genuine reply had been diverted there. This is the first time I have?had a single individual's email relegated to SPAM.
Anyway, he is a genuine applicant, I see now, but when I attempt to reinstate him all I get is 'this member is banned' I've tried to use?
another email address of his but that too is being rejected. Is banning?someone a permanent deal, then, or can I lift the ban in some way I haven't discovered?
?
Thanks for any help
?
Keith Muscott


Re: Getting everything as Spam.

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:12 AM, ray_r.rm wrote:
The = sign is not part of his real address
That's a result of DMARC as implemented by AOL and others, as noted at /static/help#why-are-emails-from-some-people-changed-to-be-via-groups-io.

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Re: Deleting Attachemnts

Patrick Howle
 

Hi Bruce,

The owner did not respond to my suggestion of using rescale.
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Posting a huge file to squeeze out the older files is a very good thought. ?I'll try that.

But perhaps I'm over thinking this. ?When our limit is truly reached (yes, I've noticed a buffer), will groups.io automatically begin dropping the oldest attachment? ?Or could it start deleting album photos and other stored files? ?Is it simply a first in, first out scenario?

As you have pointed out, deletion is inevitable.

Regards,

Patrick




From: Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Deleting Attachemnts

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:43 AM, Patrick Howle wrote:
Our group has a 1GB storage limit which can max out quickly due to large photo attachments.
Many folks will upload huge images without giving any thought to storage. Consider having groups.io rescale them for you. See Admin>Settings>Photos.

I've found that 1024 pixels on the long dimension is more than adequate for online viewing, and many groups get along fine with 488. Subscribers with a real need to share print-quality images can always upload them to cloud storage and send a link instead.

The only way I have found to delete attachments is by the route Admin > +Upgrade > View Attachments, selecting the email and deleting it.
You can also delete photo attachments directly from the Emailed Photos folder. Be sure to refresh the screen (CTRL-F5) between deletions.

Please note that no matter how you do it, deleting an attachment sends a notification to the original post-er that you have subsequently edited their message. The associated message will also display a "edited" tag in the message archive.

Then I have to start all over again - a one by one process which is very time consuming.

Does anyone know of a batch process that can speed things up?
There is no such feature, but you could try the following:

In Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Out of Space, be sure "Delete Old Attachments" is selected.
Upload (or email) a big file that puts you over quota.
Wait for groups.io to delete the older attachments. [Note:? This does not happen in real time. I have no idea how long it might take.]
Delete the big file, thereby freeing the space.

I don't know of anyone who has done this, but if it doesn't work, then I'd have to say there's something very peculiar going on with how groups.io manages storage.?

I have noticed that there appears to be some "grace storage." Roughly 1.4 GB seems to be the actual cutoff, at which point Basic groups will no longer accept further uploads. Perhaps the extra 400 MB is a buffer to keep your group going until groups.io actually gets around to trimming off the old stuff. But that's total speculation on my part.

We have the basic plan, so perhaps this feature comes with an upgraded plan.
Unfortunately, no. The only thing Premium does is give you more space, thus delaying the inevitable.

I hope something in here helps.

Bruce
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Re: Deleting Attachemnts

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 09:43 AM, Patrick Howle wrote:
Our group has a 1GB storage limit which can max out quickly due to large photo attachments.
Many folks will upload huge images without giving any thought to storage. Consider having groups.io rescale them for you. See Admin>Settings>Photos.

I've found that 1024 pixels on the long dimension is more than adequate for online viewing, and many groups get along fine with 488. Subscribers with a real need to share print-quality images can always upload them to cloud storage and send a link instead.

The only way I have found to delete attachments is by the route Admin > +Upgrade > View Attachments, selecting the email and deleting it.
You can also delete photo attachments directly from the Emailed Photos folder. Be sure to refresh the screen (CTRL-F5) between deletions.

Please note that no matter how you do it, deleting an attachment sends a notification to the original post-er that you have subsequently edited their message. The associated message will also display a "edited" tag in the message archive.

Then I have to start all over again - a one by one process which is very time consuming.

Does anyone know of a batch process that can speed things up?
There is no such feature, but you could try the following:

In Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Out of Space, be sure "Delete Old Attachments" is selected.
Upload (or email) a big file that puts you over quota.
Wait for groups.io to delete the older attachments. [Note:? This does not happen in real time. I have no idea how long it might take.]
Delete the big file, thereby freeing the space.

I don't know of anyone who has done this, but if it doesn't work, then I'd have to say there's something very peculiar going on with how groups.io manages storage.?

I have noticed that there appears to be some "grace storage." Roughly 1.4 GB seems to be the actual cutoff, at which point Basic groups will no longer accept further uploads. Perhaps the extra 400 MB is a buffer to keep your group going until groups.io actually gets around to trimming off the old stuff. But that's total speculation on my part.

We have the basic plan, so perhaps this feature comes with an upgraded plan.
Unfortunately, no. The only thing Premium does is give you more space, thus delaying the inevitable.

I hope something in here helps.

Bruce
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help


Re: Getting everything as Spam.

 

The issue here is not so much getting messages as spam, although that is the symptom of another problem.
The = sign is not part of his real address which is just his username@....
Checking the subscriber list I find that his address is as above.
Somehow it gets added, probably by Groups.io.
Overnight, I asked him to delete himself, let me know, and I would Invite him.
Result is unknown at this time due to time zone difference.
Thanks,
Richard