On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 08:06 AM, Lena wrote:

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 08:24 PM, Duane wrote:

If it's an embedded photo, there's no setting to automatically remove it.?

Plain Text Only.

Sorry, but that doesn't work either. See

Just tested this in Shalstest (), and?the embedded image was converted to an attachment and forwarded as such in email. The offending image also appeared in the online message archive and in the Emailed Photos folder, even though the group was set to Plain Text Only at the time.?

I have long wanted a group option that will strip and discard embedded images. If others agree, follow the first link above and give it a bump.

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Bruce?
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The option of notifying moderators when photos (and files) are uploaded has been mentioned on the beta group, but I don't recall seeing mention of having the option for members.? You may want to post about it over there so that Mark will see it.? Please mention that it should be an OPTION so there isn't too much discussion (hopefully ;>) about whether it should be added or not.

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I have some members who want to be notified when photos are added to albums (like files).? I can't find a way to do that currently, but I though I would ask.
Thanks
Beth

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 07:21 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 02:13 AM, Bob Blanchett wrote:

Q: do hashtags have to be in the message body or subject line to pass delivery? hashtag reqd was the only other change i'd made to group settings and I'd included #admin in the message body?

Bob -- Hashtags have to be in the subject line.

Bob; did you insert the hashtag using the -Add Tag- box or by typing #something in the subject line? I'd go and check your hashtag settings to make sure that they are consistent with what you actually tried to do. For example was #something an existing hastag or a new one; if the latter do your hashtag settings allow the creation of new ones simply by typing them?

Chris

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 08:24 PM, Duane wrote:

If it's an embedded photo, there's no setting to automatically remove it.?

Plain Text Only.

bingo..

shame I had to dig right into the help file to find a mention of this after I changed it

While it did apparently come up in group settings after it was set, I'd have thought this kind of setting might generate a notification to subscribers.. as it's a change to how they can post.. rather than as an admin having to send out a notice explaining it

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 02:13 AM, Bob Blanchett wrote:

Q: do hashtags have to be in the message body or subject line to pass delivery? hashtag reqd was the only other change i'd made to group settings and I'd included #admin in the message body?

Bob -- Hashtags have to be in the subject line.

Hope this helps,
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It's $120/year only if you pay monthly.? If you pay annually, it's $110.? You also have the option of a single month whenever you want it, as some do.? On membership groups, the single month now and then is used to direct add new members once or twice a year.? As far as I know, any of them can be canceled at any time, but I don't believe you get any refund.? It just changes the group classification to 'free' when your payment runs out.? /static/pricing

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I see that it's $10/month, is that cancellable or does it really mean $120/year?

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 01:16 PM, Jean Coffinberry wrote:

Is it possible to change the default layout of albums under PHOTOS?

This option is not available as a group setting. The best you can do is to change the sort order to your preference and store that in a browser bookmark.

Note also that Emailed Photos will always be first, no matter what sort order you select.

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If it's an embedded photo, there's no setting to automatically remove it.? You can manually edit a pending email to delete it though.

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I'm reasonably sure this has to do with Daylight Saving Time.? If it won't be a serious inconvenience, try setting up something for March 15, 2019 (just before the time change in the US) to see if that works okay.? If so, I think this will verify the difference.

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Hello all.
Is it possible to change the default layout of albums under PHOTOS?
I have some people asking for PHOTOS to have CREATED (most recent) from the album sorting dropdown be the default in stead of alphabetical.
I don't see any options to change this but I figured I'd ask before moving on.
Thank you,?

Jean

Hello,
i found a little bit problem - in my groups.io group, in calendar i create event (in April 2019), but when if I try to integrate the calendar into another calendar (Apple or Google), the event is displayed the day before. The same problem is in the ICS file itself with one event. - better described in attachements.
Surprisingly, the events this month (December) are all fine.

Thank for answer.
Richard.

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Beth,

but why would you want both messages? You can't invite someone to a
subgroup that I know of so making one or the other active seems like
enough.

The messages serve different purposes. The Welcome is more general and in my groups I use it for information about the content of the group, and why you should (or should not) be here. I generally tailor its wording on the assumption that the person joined on their own (or were approved, if the group has restricted membership).

The Direct Add message I tailor to the fact that the person was added to the group, perhaps unexpectedly. It is about why you were added and who to contact if you're unhappy about it (usually my personal email address). I leave the Welcome message active, or not, depending on how I feel about the relative content of the two messages. In some groups I deactivate the Welcome message temporarily when I do a Direct Add, in others I use a modified version of the Welcome message when I Direct Add.

And - if I can't use the activity log to prove that a message was sent
then I can't prove that the new members received a welcome message
which was my original issue.

I don't know that the Activity log can tell you which added addresses received the message and which didn't. But the Email Delivery History tab of those member's Membership page may shed light on that.

The moderator set up a subgroup, had a welcome letter active, and the
new members did not receive an email according to the moderator.

An alternate method of adding members to subgroups, if the group is Premium, is to re-add them to the primary group, with one or more subgroups checked. You get a harmless "already a member" error for each of them relating to the primary group, but this serves the purpose of a bulk add to the subgroup(s).

This is relevant because a change was made a couple months ago to consolidate the messages sent to members when Direct Add is used in the primary group and one or more subgroups are included in the Direct Add action. Now this action doesn't trigger a separate Direct Add message from the subgroup(s).


In particular, this method can be used to bulk add members to the subgroups without sending any notification to those addresses.

So whether or not the members receive a Direct Add message for a subgroup can depend on the method used to Direct Add them.

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Thanks Bruce,
I read that section in help, and it explains what each is:

Welcome

Sent automatically to members who join an unrestricted group, or whose membership in a restricted group has been approved. A Welcome notice is always sent to new members. If the group has not created and activated a custom notice, we activate and send a default.

Direct Add

Message sent when a moderator direct-adds someone to a premium or enterprise group. The active notice, if any, is used as the initial text and can be edited for one-time use during the Direct Add process. A Direct Add notice is always sent; if the group has not created and activated a custom notice, we activate and use a default.

but why would you want both messages? You can't invite someone to a subgroup that I know of so making one or the other active seems like enough.??

And - if I can't use the activity log to prove that a message was sent then I can't prove that the new members received a welcome message which was my original issue.? The moderator set up a subgroup, had a welcome letter active, and the new members did not receive an email according to the moderator. Somehow I created and deleted enough notices to kick it to the point of working, but I don't know what to tell her for when she creates another group.

Beth

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 04:21 PM, Beth Weld wrote:

But - the question then becomes - for a subgroup when is the welcome message sent vs. when is the direct add message sent? I have tried both with no success. I thought I understood, but maybe not.

A comprehensive discussion of member notices can be found in the system help at /static/help#membernotices. To the best of my knowledge, member notices behave exactly the same way with a subgroup as they do with a main group...with the understanding that you cannot Direct Add someone to a subgroup who is not already a member of the main group. According to the help, a generic, system-generated notice will be sent even if you do not create one.

Many new features have been added to groups.io over time, and the activity log has not always kept pace.?To verify actual behavior, I created a Direct Add notice?in the Shalstest/TestSub2 subgroup, to go along with the existing Welcome notice. When I subsequently Direct Added my own GMail address to it, I received both notices. There was nothing in the activity log to document that the notices were sent. The only entry is that I was "added."

Unless you have other evidence to suggest that your notices never went out, the behavior you've described seems to be normal.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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