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Re: Automatic logout 30-days after login

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Barb M at 10/28/2018 02:16 PM UTC:

Though I hate to add to this lengthy conversation, I have to confess to being totally baffled by it. Groups.IO will work just like Yahoo did if you create a password at the beginning, as Yahoo *required* you to do.

I don't find that to be the case. On Yahoo I had a username and password. Here on Gio I have an email address and a password. So far the same thing.

On Yahoo(Groups) I logged in once using my username and password and from then on all I had to do was visit my Yahoogroups and I found myself logged in via a cookie Yahoo stored on my computer. That cookie was refreshed upon each new visit. I never had to log in again using my username and password unless I foolishly deleted my Yahoo cookies or manually logged out.

On Gio I can log in on let's say Jan 1 using my email address and password and for the next 30 days all I have to do is visit my Gio groups and I find myself logged in via a cookie Gio stored on my computer. That cookie is NOT refreshed upon each new visit and after 30 days it expires. Then when I visit Gio I don't see my groups and I have to log in again manually with email address and password. (Or I can request a login link that resets the cookie without requiring me to know (or even have) a password.)

I'm used to this behavior so know what to do. The several times weekly threads by people who don't know what to do is the reason I think this approach to cookies needs to be changed so the cookie is refreshed upon each visit.


Re: Mysterious Email Problem

 

I used the analyzer, and it showed my ISP holding up the email that took almost three days to get to me. I'll have to contact my ISP about the problems I'm experiencing, and maybe I can get something resolved. If I do get this fixed through the ISP, I'll let you all know how it went.

Don


#alias Owner access to subscriber alias info #alias

 

I have had several situations arise recently where it would be really handy for the owner (me) to have access to a subscriber's personal alias information, perhaps even have the ability to set an alias for someone who is having difficulty.? Is there such a means?? If there is, I have not been able to find it.

????????????? -- Charlie


Re: Lost Group

 

I am a co-owner of this same group that Cathy is in and I also cannot see it in my groups list (I belong to one other group which I do see). I used to see this group also but not any more. The original owner of this group that Cathy and I belong to can see all of us and confirmed that I am co-owner and Cathy is a Moderator. I am using the same email that I was in June when I was invited into this group. Something odd is going on that is preventing all (three) members except the original owner from seeing this group. Any ideas?


Re: How can I set subscriber privs so they cannot Open a New Topic, or edit but not delete their posts?

 

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:10 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
be advised that everyone involved will be refreshing the chat page a lot (it does not auto-refresh).
Apparently, that depends on browser, device, etc.? The couple of times I used Chat for testing, it updated itself.


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Re: How can I set subscriber privs so they cannot Open a New Topic, or edit but not delete their posts?

 

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 07:35 PM, Duane wrote:
There's a possible work-around.? You could set up a single hashtag that was for use by moderators only, require the use of an existing hashtag on messages, then use it when first posting a message.? This would require that the person that starts the discussion be a moderator.
I agree with Duane that this should work.?

  • Go to Admin>Settings>Message Policies and tic the "Hashtags Required" box
  • Immediately below, pull down the "Hashtag Permissions" menu and select "bounce" (second option).
  • Click "Update Group" at the bottom of the page.
  • Create ONE hashtag for the group. Click on "Use by Mods only" but unclick "Replies by Mods only."
At that point your "meetings" should function correctly as long as the Moderator who starts it remembers to include the hashtag. Otherwise, their post will bounce, too. It's kind of annoying, but is probably your only option, assuming you don't want to moderate every post.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. If you prefer to interact in real time you might want to consider using the chat function for your meetings; but be advised that everyone involved will be refreshing the chat page a lot (it does not auto-refresh).
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Re: remove ALL footer links in a PAID version? #featurerequest #suggestion

 

As you were told 4 days ago, /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/27637112, no one from Groups.io management is on this group.? Maybe someone with a paid group can tell you if this can be done on one of those.? It sounds to me like you don't want a group, just a mailing list.? There are other sites that would be more appropriate for that.

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Re: remove ALL footer links in a PAID version? #featurerequest #suggestion

 

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:23 PM, AL Guevara wrote:
We sure would like "no footer links" whatsoever.
Want a PURE email group, with no member ever learning there is an "online interface" whatsoever.
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Please join and post this request to , which is the official "suggestion box" for groups.io. There are also??over there that you could give a bump to.

No one from groups.io management monitors GMF. We are just group owners like yourself, trying to help each other. While you're not the first person to inquire about this, you're just spinning your wheels posting it here.?
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Bruce
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Re: Mysterious Email Problem

 

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:22 PM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:
I just today got an email I sent to my group last Saturday, so that's about a three day lag.
See this message on an email header analyzer that can tell you very quickly where the message was held up.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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remove ALL footer links in a PAID version? #featurerequest #suggestion

AL Guevara
 

We sure would like "no footer links" whatsoever.
Want a PURE email group, with no member ever learning there is an "online interface" whatsoever.

Why?
Dont wanna teach newbz how to use online interface.?
Don't want the hassle.

Can g.io add a PRICE POINT option for this ?


Re: Mysterious Email Problem

 

I just today got an email I sent to my group last Saturday, so that's about a three day lag.

I have recently been using my ISP web mail interface, to see if it has been showing or acting any differently than my Outlook program on my computer. While using the web mail I checked Spam settings, and added Groups.io and my group to the Allow feature. I'll take Donald's advice and check it again.

Don


Re: How can I set subscriber privs so they cannot Open a New Topic, or edit but not delete their posts?

Joseph Hudson
 

Hello, the only solution I can offer you, and in order to keep people from creating new topics, is to put everyone meaning your whole group on moderated status meaning keeping it moderate a group. That way they you have control weather a new topic is created or not. As far as your second item, you will have to get Mark to add a functionality to disable the leading topics. Because I don't think there is your convenience.

"Groups. io" <[email protected]> of those in the settings. I will paste his address below four.

On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:46 PM, webmaster@... wrote:

I have opened a new group. We intend ti use it for on-line meetings, where the is only one topic, and all participants simply reply to previous postings. Therefore, I want to disallow subscribers from opening new topics? How can I do that?

Also, I would like subscribers to be able to edit their posts/replies, but not to delete them. How can I do that?


Re: Is it possible to move only the files from a Yahoo! Group?

 

You should be able to start a new transfer, then select only files during the actual transfer step.? Just make sure the total size will fit in your group without going over the storage limit.

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Re: How can I set subscriber privs so they cannot Open a New Topic, or edit but not delete their posts?

 

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:55 PM, <webmaster@...> wrote:
Therefore, I want to disallow subscribers from opening new topics?? How can I do that?
You could moderate all replies so that a new topic isn't started, but there's no way restrict it directly.

There's a possible work-around.? You could set up a single hashtag that was for use by moderators only, require the use of an existing hashtag on messages, then use it when first posting a message.? This would require that the person that starts the discussion be a moderator.


Also, I would like subscribers to be able to edit their posts/replies, but not to delete them.? How can I do that?
Can't be done.? If they can edit, they can delete.? Actually, I think they can delete even if they can't edit, but I haven't verified that.? There was some discussion about this on the beta group awhile back.? I think the GDPR (in Europe) took it out of consideration.

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Is it possible to move only the files from a Yahoo! Group?

 

Is it possible to move only the files from a Yahoo! Group and if so how do I do it?
The bulk moving of files feature was launched after I created my group. I have a lot of files that still need moving and wonder if there is an easier way to do this?

Thanks,

Sam
Moderator of the LeCroyOwnersGroup on groups.io and
LeCroy_Owners_Group on Yahoo! Groups


Re: Group messages being blocked to @cox.net addresses

 

Chris,


FWIW - and this is a purely personal opinion - I regard not setting oneself up with a permanent password as lazy, careless, or actively negligent.

I've found that when using a mobile device it is far easier to use the email link to login than trying to copy/paste a password (or worse, type one). Members who predominantly or exclusively use a mobile device for group access are likely to prefer the login link.

The argument against setting up a password is that the password can be phished or otherwise stolen, and too many people use weak passwords because it is easier for them. In that sense not having a password is actually more secure, though a potential problem if your email account gets disabled by your service.

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I know it's actually a matter of personal choice but in my view not doing it restricts members' "freedom of movement" and finishes up being an additional, unnecessary, and avoidable burden on Owners and Moderators.

I think your confounding clueless members (who'll be a burden in any case) with those who deliberately choose to forego a password.

Shal


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How can I set subscriber privs so they cannot Open a New Topic, or edit but not delete their posts?

 

I have opened a new group.? We intend ti use it for on-line meetings, where the is only one topic, and all participants simply reply to previous postings.? Therefore, I want to disallow subscribers from opening new topics?? How can I do that?

Also, I would like subscribers to be able to edit their posts/replies, but not to delete them.? How can I do that?


Reply to Sender not working #bug

 

I set the options for all of my groups to Reply to Sender and yet when you hit Reply, it is going to the whole group, please help!!


Re: Mysterious Email Problem

 

Don,

For?Most Recent Successful Delivery?it says:
Message? Post To Subscriber?
Delivered? Oct 28?
Response? 2.0.0 GzgZgPPKNk7oUGzgcgX5vH mail accepted for delivery

Ok, that's odd.Usually the Message subject line (including group tag) and message number appear in the Message field. "Post To Subscriber" is something new I just noticed recently, and I put in a support request about it.

But that aside, the 2.0.0 response code is a delivery success, as it says. So at least that message made it to your email service. What happened to it from there I don't know.


Something else I'm noticing is I am getting emails through my Outlook program from GMF and others, but not any from GMF on this thread "Mysterious Email Problem."

That sounds an awfully lot like (content-based) spam filter behavior. Maybe Donald's hint about checking the web interface of your email service is on target - assuming that's not where you normally read messages.

Shal


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Re: Group messages being blocked to @cox.net addresses

 

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 09:47 PM, Bart Fried wrote:
In any event, does anyone know if? there is a work-around where I can set a password for him, so he can have full access?
Yes and no in that order, but he can set up full access for himself! Email your member direct and advise him to go to / which he should see as the Log In / Set Up page. I am going to assume that he has never set himself up with a permanent password to avoid having to ask for one to be emailed from time to time. He should click on Set Up and follow the instructions from there; he will be able to equip himself with a password that will work in perpetuity, while still working to the 30 day rule, whereby once logged in a cookie will be placed on his PC (or whatever he is using) that will allow him to close Groups.io and return to it without having to specifically log in each time until 30 days have elapsed, after which he will have to log in again with his permanent password. Your member MUST set up with the email address he normally uses for Groups.io activity.?

FWIW - and this is a purely personal opinion - I regard not setting oneself up with a permanent password as lazy, careless, or actively negligent. I know it's actually a matter of personal choice but in my view not doing it restricts members' "freedom of movement" and finishes up being an additional, unnecessary, and avoidable burden on Owners and Moderators.

Chris