We're starting a new group, not migrating from Yahoo, but moving files and photos from elsewhere.? At the moment we have one owner, six moderators, and two test members who are non-moderators.? Things have been going well and we're able to import Discussions and Photos from another group but we are having difficulty with Files.

As the owner, I can upload files.? One of the moderators can also upload files.? The rest, it appears, cannot.? ?Ditto the two test members--they cannot upload files.

When they try to upload files by clicking on Files in the left side menu, the Files page pops up but the Files icon is grayed out.? I've been through Settings, but I cannot find anything there that controls permission to upload files.

For the record, the +Uprade page shows that the group is using 41MB of total storage, so it would not appear to be a problem of too much data.

I see this issue has been raised before, but I never found an answer in the archives to this particular problem.

One temporary workaround to get the files uploaded might be making one moderate into a co-owner, but it's important for us to have rank-and-file members able to upload files too, so the workaround isn't a good longterm solution.

Can anyone offer help on this?

Many thanks,

Milt Baker

Hi.

Has anyone run into this problem before? Invitations to join our group are being rejected by a couple of related domains belonging to the same academic institution with the error:

Failed - 550 5.7.1 <user@...>... PTR-listed: Mail from your subnet is rejected. Contact abuse@... to have this matter resolved. (IP: 66.175.222.12)

This is probably related to the discussion about the same IP address from back in June?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8626?-- but then the problem was messages being rejected because too many were being sent. Here, we're not even managing to get these users onto the mailing list!

Any thoughts on what might be done to remediate the reputation of the sending server? For now our first line of attack is to ask the two users concerned to use their home, rather than work, email address; the next will be to write to the abuse addresses and beg. ;-)

Regards,
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 02:23 PM, Mick Rizk wrote:

So, assuming our group would remain private, what are the steps to accomplish the move??

I suggest you check out the wiki entry at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups?and ask any further questions after digesting it. See also the system help on this topic at?/yahootransfer?
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My Group has the free plan and members post a lot of pictures and files that quickly use up our free storage space. As a result, older pictures or files are deleted when more storage space is needed. No problem with pictures, but most of the files need to stay.?
I am looking for a way or a service that would allow members to easily upload and download files. Ideas?
Bob

In our co-op group, it's pretty simple. We have multiple committees and social groups. If post is TO a committee or social group, it goes in the subgroup. If the post is ABOUT a committee or social group, it goes to main.

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Linda,

I have attached an image of what the member is seeing.? She is still a registered member and her email
address is correct.
Could you please advise me on what to else to check?

What Bruce said.

Also, she can check the email address she's currently logged in with by hovering over or clicking on her name in the upper right corner of any Groups.io page:

In order to access the group as a member this login email must match her entry in your group's Members list.

Shal


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Many subscribers have more than one email address. Yours seems to be logged in with the wrong one.

As owner, you could open her user record and confirm this (Admin>Members and click on the appropriate user name).

Once you figure out which address is subscribed, send that to her, and tell her to log in again with that address (see /static/help#password). I suspect that will fix the problem.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Hi,
I have a small signature tag group.
I have attached an image of what the member is seeing.? She is still a registered member and her email
address is correct.
Could you please advise me on what to else to check?
Thank you
Kind regards
Linda

Pedja,

That rules out about 96% of my members, or even more.

Not necessarily.

On the one hand you could do it for them. Though I grant that with a large group that might be intolerably tedious, as you'd have to open each individual membership page.

On the other hand, the "Email me a link to log in" feature of Groups.io makes logging in for this purpose exceptionally simple. Click the button, enter your email address, click Send, switch to your email, open the message, click the link. You're logged in.

Nothing to set up, no password to write down or remember. Just click onto the Subscription page and change the setting. Done.

Members are often reluctant to even try logging in, especially refugees from Yahoo, but they can put that nightmare behind them. No ads, no tracking (yes, browser cookies to store their login, but not used to track them), no hassles.

Shal


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On 23.09.2018 09:50, Shal Farley wrote:

And No, unlike some other subscription options, the member can't update their Max Attachement Size without logging in.

That rules out about 96% of my members, or even more.


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On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 01:40 PM, Bruce Petrarca wrote:

What is the maximum number of subscribers that a single group account can support?

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We are looking at moving a couple of Yahoo groups, one has 7000+ members.

There is a maximum number of MESSAGES that the transfer agent will move without you paying for a year's upgrade to Premium. I'm having trouble finding it in the beta group at the moment, but IIRC it's capped at the most recent 100,000 messages. So that could come into play.

I don't believe there's any such restriction on the number of subscribers.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Pedja,

I usually administer groups that need archive of messages and
attachments to stay intact. That means archive grows up and I need way
to prevent someone to fill it in with unnecessary large data.

Agreed. I think there needs to be a way to protect useful attachments from the auto-delete of old attachments, while still letting the clutter be auto-deleted.

Drew's idea of moving them to a permanent folder/album has been suggested before in beta and I think that's a good way to handle it.

Actually, if attachment is to large it should be delivered using some
other, external, means, and provide link.

Email is not supposed to be used to send unsolicited large data.

I do agree with this, actually.

It is why I generally have set my Yahoo Groups to "HTML - Include Attachments as links". Yes, even though that flies in the face of the argument I've made in favor of letting the member decide. But Yahoo Groups doesn't let the member decide, and it has a couple of advantages in this regard:

1) The 100 GB allocation for photos and attachments. None of my groups has yet approached this total.

2) The passed links were coded with access to a folder containing just the attachments for that message - and that link worked even for email-only members (sign in not required). Alas, the Neo redesign lost that feature along the way.

Secondly, this would not prevent anyone to send info, just prevents
users to send far to large attachments. Users can always upload on on
some site, and provide link. That is the whole point.

"On some site" - why not the group's site? That's the effect I have in Yahoo Groups, the members don't need to find, learn to use, and trust in some other site. And since most of my Y!Group members are email-only, letting them "upload" the file by email makes sense.

I know what the counter-arguments are in Groups.io. Firstly the limited storage, and secondly the lack of privileged links (though that is mitigated by the ease of logging in with Groups.io).

Shal


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On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 02:38 PM, Charis Austin wrote:

Do the messages need to be html?

Yes. These are mailto: links and do not work in plain text.?

See also??

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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I don't believe there's a limit.? Looking at the groups in the directory, there's one with over 500k (updates - for the site) and a bunch in the 6-12k range.

Duane
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What is the maximum number of subscribers that a single group account can support?

To insert manually or to use in plain text in an email, hold down the ALT key and type in 0149 on the numeric keypad for ? .

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