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Re: Group Transfer Question - Two Groups.IO Memberships

 

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<<On the home page,?/, all of the groups associated with the account that's logged in will be shown.>>

Not if they have two accounts. So, what I still need to know how to merge two accounts, when one account is an email that is no longer in use (almost always their original email they used with Yahoo Groups, for our list.). I don¡¯t know what the Merge process looks like, and I need to be able to give my list members some more specific instructions. I can¡¯t find that at all in the Help section. They can¡¯t create a password using that old, original email address, as they cannot get to that auto email sent by to click on the link to be taken to their Account page. Could they try doing that with the new Account? ?Then, after creating a password, try to change their email to the OLD email address in order to get those two accounts merged? ?Then change BACK, again, to the newer (and functioning) email? ?Do you see the problem? ?

Patty Sliney
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Re: Message Format Bar - Missing Paper Clip

 

Gerald - THAT WAS IT! Many thanks ...

Clint Bradford


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

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Albums are listed in alphabetical or numerical order, so changing the name of the folder can make it the first in order.

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Don

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Denny G.
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Groups.io site updates #changelog

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Email photos at the top is great. A suggestion would be to have the last album created be next in the list, saving subscribers the need to sort the entire photo gallery. For example, we just had an event where I created an album for folks to put their pictures in ... it went to page 3 of albums, so no one could find it. Or, a way to set it so in SETTINGS?
Dennis - W6EK Group Moderator


Re: Subscribers v.s. Members

 

Michael,

I think of and understand:

Subscribers: as people who have a subscribed email address, but do not
have a Password, and can only receive and send messages to a Groups.io
group.

Members: as Subscribers who do have a Password, and can access the
Groups.io group website to access all available features.
I like that usage as well, but am not consistent about it. And the Groups.io UI and help certainly aren't consistent in its usage.

However I'm inclined to use Subscriber in any email context, regardless of whether the person has a password or has ever used the web site or not.

If those aren¡¯t the correct names to refer to these two distinct
levels of Groups.io participation, what are?
Those "levels" are not as distinct in Groups.io as they were in Yahoo Groups, here they mostly reflect habitual participation.

One of the reasons the levels aren't as distinct is that every subscribed email address has a corresponding account - whether or not the user ever logged in to the web site to access it. Also, users can access their account (and groups subscribed by that account) at any time without setting or using a password - they can log in using a link sent by email instead.

Shal


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Re: New Topic sent message archive?

 

On Jun 25, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Michael,

if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere
in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can
I find it?
No there is not. Nor is there for replies you post via the group's Messages section. They only surface if approved to post in the group.

It would be nice if there were an equivalent of the Sent folder, say on your Subscription page. Failing that, or maybe in addition to it, it would also be nice if there were a BCC me checkbox in both places (New Topic and Reply). It is possible that one or both ideas have been discussed in beta:
Thanks for hearing my question and clarifying.

(My response to the other non-answer to my question passed each other by while posting) :)


Re: New Topic sent message archive?

 

On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:32 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?
See /static/help#dupemail If you check the box, you will receive a copy when you post online (as you wish), but will get a duplicate copy (i.e.: along with the one your client saved) whenever you send by email. If you uncheck the box, you will not get any emails you sent yourself, no matter where you send it from. You can't have it both ways.

Hope this helps,
No, it doesn¡¯t. My question has nothing to do with sending a message through my email provider.

Let me try the question again:

1) I click on ¡°New Topic¡± on the GMF Groups.io group website (to which I am subscribed and have a Password)

2) I write and send a message.

3) It appears I have no copy of that message, unless and until it is approved and sent out to members of GMF

4) Only then do I have a copy of it (by receiving it through email) - if it is not approved, it seems I have no copy of it.

5) Before it is approved (if ever), is there a copy of my message submitted by clicking on ¡°New Topic¡± on the GMF Groups.io group website, that I can find and refer to?

6) If so, where and how can I find it?


Re: New Topic sent message archive?

 

Michael,

if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere
in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can
I find it?
No there is not. Nor is there for replies you post via the group's Messages section. They only surface if approved to post in the group.

It would be nice if there were an equivalent of the Sent folder, say on your Subscription page. Failing that, or maybe in addition to it, it would also be nice if there were a BCC me checkbox in both places (New Topic and Reply). It is possible that one or both ideas have been discussed in beta:


Shal


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Re: Subscribers v.s. Members

 

Members and Subscribers is synonymous.
I think of and understand:

Subscribers: as people who have a subscribed email address, but do not have a Password, and can only receive and send messages to a Groups.io group.

Members: as Subscribers who do have a Password, and can access the Groups.io group website to access all available features.

If those aren¡¯t the correct names to refer to these two distinct levels of Groups.io participation, what are?


Re: New Topic sent message archive?

 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:32 pm, Michael Pavan wrote:
So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?
See /static/help#dupemail? If you check the box, you will receive a copy when you post online (as you wish), but will get a duplicate copy (i.e.: along with the one your client saved) whenever you send by email.?If you uncheck the box, you will not get any emails you sent yourself, no matter where you send it from. You can't have it both ways.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Photos and other images in email, some background

 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:31 pm, Tom H wrote:
would an optional setting for Files and Photos Permissions be a reasonable request?
I have encountered many situations where this would be handy, including the placement of a group photo on the group's home page (using an <img> tag) and being able to insert a link to our membership application in our Pending Subscription notice.

Optimally, I would prefer it to be a security option at the folder level, not a group setting. If you were to I would give it a bump.?

Regards,
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Re: Subscribers v.s. Members

 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:30 pm, Denny G. wrote:
It's not clear what the difference is between Subscribers and Members, and both terms are found in SETTINGS. An example of how this can work for us (and possibly others) is, if we want to have "members" be able to create albums, upload and edit in PHOTOS, but "subscribers" be able to view and download only. It would include adding more "members" selections to the drop-down selections in settings.
Members and Subscribers is synonymous. If you want to give any of your subscribers special privileges, you have to make them Moderators.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:34 am, Denny G. wrote:
A suggestion would be to have the last album created be next in the list,
Photo albums are sorted alphabetically by default, but you can change that using the "sort by" menu at the top right of the page.?

If you leave and come back, it will be sorted alphabetically again.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: New Topic sent message archive?

 

Your email program/provider created a copy in your Sent folder.
Yes, I stated and understand that.

Groups.IO does not have access to your mail folders on your PC or web mail so there's no way it can put a copy there.
Obviously

(and that's not something that can ever be done so please don't ask.)
Agreed. I wasn¡¯t asking that.

If the group is moderated, the post will not be visible on the web until after approved.
Yes, I stated and understand that.


What I meant, and apparently may not have been clear enough about is:
When I use the New Topic feature (because I did not send it through my email provider and of course do not have a copy of it in my Sent folder) it seems I do not (have a copy of it in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to, until and) only if my post is approved will it then appear as a New Topic.

So what I was asking is:
if (I use the New Topic feature) is there (a copy of my post somewhere in my Groups.io group that I sent the message to), (and if so) how can I find it?


Re: Photos and other images in email, some background

 

I want the public to view what's in Files and Photos so, at the moment, my only option is to store them outside Groups.io. In that case, it would be easier to build the site outside Groups.io as I already have a set of working HTML files and linked image and non-image files.?

Otherwise, would an optional setting for Files and Photos Permissions be a reasonable request?
  1. Public can view
    1. Subscribers can view
    2. Subscribers can upload


Subscribers v.s. Members

 

It's not clear what the difference is between Subscribers and Members, and both terms are found in SETTINGS. An example of how this can work for us (and possibly others) is, if we want to have "members" be able to create albums, upload and edit in PHOTOS, but "subscribers" be able to view and download only. It would include adding more "members" selections to the drop-down selections in settings.


Re: Message Format Bar - Missing Paper Clip

Gerald Boutin
 

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:00 am, Clint Bradford wrote:
My formatting bar is missing that Paper Clip to add photos to messages.
Clint,

This happens if the group is configured to disallow attachments. It must be set to "Allow" if you want to add attachments.

The setting is found here:?Admin > Settings >
Scroll down to: Messaging Formats > Attachments?

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reply to sender and group?

 

I'm sorry if this has been hashed out over and over but i've received numerous replies from members who reply to the group rather than individual and when i reject and ask them to reply to original poster they say they
can't figure out how to do it --?

So I switched the group to reply sender and group and now have a member who replied to moderator and when I checked the digest -- the only options are?
View/Reply Online? | Reply To Moderators | Mute This Topic | Top ^ | New Topic
so they can't reply to sender without logging into the group and i guess some folks don't want to do that or have never done it

So -- is there a simple way for folks on digest to to reply to sender?
Is the option live on individual messages and not digest when set to reply group and sender?

Or do i need to change the setting to reply to sender only.

Thanks,
Rachel

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Re: A somewhat unique transfer situation.

 

Dale:
You did not say just why the owner is locked out of Yahoo.
Forgot the password?
You can request a new one.
But it has to go to an alternate e-mail address since it cannot go to Yahoo.
Just create a Hotmail address and then use that for receiving the new Yahoo address.
Not sure that the owner has not done this, but I thought it might help.
BTDT
Richard


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Email photos at the top is great. A suggestion would be to have the last album created be next in the list, saving subscribers the need to sort the entire photo gallery. For example, we just had an event where I created an album for folks to put their pictures in ... it went to page 3 of albums, so no one could find it. Or, a way to set it so in SETTINGS?
Dennis - W6EK Group Moderator


Re: How to insert Guidelines button on left?

Prasad Agrahar
 

Thank you Gerald, that surely did the trick. All set