Cacky B, thank you, I am a few years younger than you, 75, and thanks to crass remarks regards 'old women '? and 'no computer experience' quietly set about re-educating those who held those blinkered views. It is quite wrong to assume age??or gender, has anything to do with lack of aptitude, in most cases it's lack of confidence in their own ability to learn something new. Those who who hold on to outmoded stereotypical views regards age would do well to remember they too will become old, and be regarded in the same way they regard those older than themselves now. I'm sure the poster of the comment,''Old women.? What can you do with them?!?!? '' did so in a light hearted way, but my answer to that question is not light hearted, stop considering them as old and start seeing them as people.? Some will require more help than others , but given the right enablers will grow, no 2 people will have the same learning strategies, so don't assume your instructions will fit every one of your members, they wont, so you have to find ways to overcome that.??

So, once an old Yahoo Groups list member has been transferred, and they get this notification email, how do they create their password, to complete their new account?

I send this out as the first message to the Group
[be sure to fill in all the < >s for your group)


Subject: <Groups.io Title> transferred to Groups.io YYYY.MM.DD



<Group.io Title> members,

The transfer from YahooGroups to Groups.io has happened.
Everyone and everything (except Attachments) should have been transferred, however I haven't checked it yet.


IF YOU JUST WANT TO RECEIVE AND SEND MESSAGES, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
Except from now on post messages to:
<Group.io Email Address>


The new website for the email List is:
<Group.io Email List website>

IF YOU WANT TO ACCESS THE NEW EMAIL LIST'S WEBSITE:
1) go to: <Group.io Email List website>
2) click on "Log In If You Are Already A Member"
3) enter your email address
4) click on "Forgot your password, or don't have one yet?"
5) click on the 'loginlink' in an automated "Link to log into Groups.io" email that will be sent to you
6) create a password and click on "Set Password" [TIP: write down you Password]
7) click on "<Group.io Title>" in the next webpage AND YOU'RE DONE and IN THE WEBSITE


I believe we will appreciate that Groups.io is easier to use and more reliable.

Questions, please ask me,
If you find something missing, please tell me,

Thanks,
<Owner(s)' name(s)>
<Group.io Owner's Email Address>

The old YahooGroups email List and website still exist as a back-up archive just in case something wasn't transferred. All email addresses are set to Moderation, as posts should now be sent to the new address <Group.io Email Address>, however this setting permits you to still view old messages on the YahooGroups website:
<old YahooGroup website>

If you do try to post to the old address, I will reminder you of the information above.
Please remember to reach current members at their current email addresses, use the current (new - Groups.io ) address and/or website.

Patty,

I've had the similar problems with trying to figure out how things work. I l like to be self sufficient and read through previous answers to similar questions, but I find that things are still changing here, so a previous answer may no longer be correct. Also, even with current answers, it is easy to misunderstand or misinterpret the assistance.

What I am suggesting is to signup with a new "test" account and make a test group and try the steps yourself. Use your main account as the owner of the group and the new email account as a normal member. Once you've got it set up, you'll find lots of opportunities to use it.

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Gerald

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I am an 83 year old female. I taught myself to write html code so I could design and maintain 7 web sites for non-profits. I have designed and coded several database applications that are in use in several different arenas today.? I am the owner/moderator of 4 active user lists.? All of this in the last, say 15 years, which would qualify as old to ancient.? Please don't blame stupidity on age.

Cacky

Okay, so here is another question that I cannot find the answer to, either in the transfer agent notification email sent to the list members, or in the FAQ:? So, once an old Yahoo Groups list member has been transferred, and they get this notification email, how do they create their password, to complete their new account?? No explanation is in that email.? There's a link that says to click "here" to be taken to the new groups.io home page, but no further instructions are included on how to finish creating your account on Groups.IO.? Can someone tell me what a brand new person would see, if they were to click on that link?? And, (more importantly), many of my list members can't find that email, because it went to an old email associated with their Yahoo Group.? They're list members, and I can tell them what their new Groups.IO account ID is (that old email, which I can look up on the Yahoo Group), but I need to tell them how to continue completing the account sign up, and create a password.? Forgive me if these instructions are somewhere on Groups.IO Help page, I am frankly a wee bit brain dead after plowing through about 400 emails today.


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Patty S.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 06:04 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:

and manually delete the transferred subscription

It would actually be better if they merged the accounts (into the 'new' one).? All posts and other things will be tied to the transferred email address, so if it's deleted, there won't be an owner for those things.

Duane
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Help: /static/help
GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Search button at the top of Messages list
A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:36 pm, Patty Sliney wrote:

I am currently declining these dup requests, and telling them to sign into Groups.IO with their current ID (their old email address), then go to the subscription page and change their email address to the new email address.?

This is a common "problem"...lots of folks subscribed to Yahoo Groups with their Yahoo address over the years because you had to create a Yahoo account and get an email address anyway, so why not use it? Then upon transfer, these same people now want to subscribe with their latest email address instead of the one that transferred.?

Not sure it has anything to do with age or gender.

If you can figure out who each person is, I suggest that it would probably be easier to accept their new subscription request and manually delete the transferred subscription. This is especially true if the old email is a Yahoo Mail account, which are notorious for problems like emails bouncing, marking group messages as spam, etc.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help

i suggest that people add a hashtag #premium to queries about their groups. Some people may be confused when they read about “direct add” or other features not available with the free service.?

Frances

Under Member Notifications, you can add a "Direct Add" notice that goes along with the auto one from Groups.IO.

Mine says something like "We have added you to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx as you requested. You should also receive a Welcome email and a copy of our Group Guidelines. Please do NOT click on the Remove Me link below unless you have changed your mind and no longer want to join xxx! If you have questions they can be addressed to xxxxx@xxxxxxxx."

I added that after we had some members who got confused and clicked the Remove Me link, then wrote us and wondered why they weren't getting any messages yet. (The Welcome notice and Group Guidelines are also set up in that same location.)

Barb

Okay, so being that the vast majority of my Yahoo Groups list membership are women over the age of 50 (read:? Little to no computer understanding), here's what is happening now:? I am getting old list members who were transferred (with probably some old email address they had on file with Yahoo Groups), trying to apply to our new Groups.IO, having created a NEW ID on Groups.IO with a different email address.? OH BOTHER!!!!? I warned them (a gazillion times) on the Yahoo Group NOT TO DO THIS (yes, it was typed in all caps).? Still happening.? What can be done with what are essentially duplicate membership requests?? I am currently declining these dup requests, and telling them to sign into Groups.IO with their current ID (their old email address), then go to the subscription page and change their email address to the new email address.? Will this trigger something with Groups.IO to see they already have an account with this ID?? And, will the merge instructions then pop up?? Ugh.? Old women.? What can you do with them?!?!?
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Patty S.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 09:26 am, TASA DSavage wrote:

also allow everyone to be able to PM each other individually as needed.

The problem with that is that when a Private reply/message is sent, it includes the email address of the person sending it.

Duane
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 09:07 am, Patty Sliney wrote:

Thanks, Gerald.? I opened my Inbox today to 300 emails :-(? Transferring two large and active Yahoo Groups at the same time was probably not a good idea.?

Yep, the transfer itself tends to generate a lot of traffic, mostly from subscribers who either have "no email" delivery or generally aren't paying attention.

I haven't even had time to try to search the Help files for this info, I appreciate you pointing it out to me, and I'll copy and paste this into a reply.?

I suggest you send your group(s) select portions of the FAQ section of the Help page as a Special Notice (/static/help#faq). In particular, the login function here is quite different from Y!G and seems to cause a lot of confusion among newbies.

And, I'll certainly try to re-transfer the Files section of both lists, again.? We have a lot of files, and they're all grouped into folders.? Not sure if the folder structure is causing the issue with the transfer.

I'm sure it's not the folder structure. Yahoo seems to be experiencing problems with the files section of several groups right now. It has been a pernicious problem with some groups over the past 2+ years ().

You might first try visiting the groups manually to check whether they are online at all. If you can't see them, the agent can't transfer them.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help

Shal,

That's a good point. But I guess that I am now realizing (from other responses) that many group members will probably not even create a profile. Which limits the use of the directory for everyone.

Ideally, I would like an option where members who join are automatically agreeing to be shown in the directory - with their name or whatever screen name they choose. That would allow people to choose an anonymous screen name (if needed) but also allow everyone to be able to PM each other individually as needed.

Deb

Chris,

The need for some of our group members to have anonymity is NOT unreasonable. It has to do with legal issues regarding very sensitive issues. Our entire group agrees that it may occasionally be necessary and agree that the moderators get to decide on a case by case basis.

I don't think that making them moderators is the solution for us, but thanks for the idea.

Deb

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:01 am, Dale Smith wrote:

We may have to work harder on the issue of restoring the owner's log in ability.?

If you have a Moderator in the Yahoo group with permissions to invite and promote members, then you don't necessarily need an Owner. So you might check into that option as well.

I recently copied over a group and PGOffline was very handy to bring over the files area. Fortunately, the transfer agent was able to bring over the messages.

Good luck,
Bruce?
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The system Help is your friend.??/static/help

Thanks, Gerald.? I opened my Inbox today to 300 emails :-(? Transferring two large and active Yahoo Groups at the same time was probably not a good idea.? I haven't even had time to try to search the Help files for this info, I appreciate you pointing it out to me, and I'll copy and paste this into a reply.? And, I'll certainly try to re-transfer the Files section of both lists, again.? We have a lot of files, and they're all grouped into folders.? Not sure if the folder structure is causing the issue with the transfer.
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Patty S.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:46 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:

It took almost exactly a week, but none of the files came over.

Just some follow-up and clarification on this. It appears that the files area of the associated group is completely down on Yahoo. It was not the fault of the transfer agent that the files did not come over.

Bruce?
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Patty,

The following description below is from the Help pages. This explains the process for merging two accounts.

Regarding file transfers, you could try again and maybe Yahoo will be more cooperative. Use the same transfer process, but only select Files. If that doesn't help, then you'll probably have to do a manual download / upload of the files you really want to keep.

To change your email address, log into Groups.io. Then look for the dropdown in the top right corner of the page, which will be either your name or email address. Click that and then click Account.

On the edit profile page, you can change your email address. Once you do so, you will receive a new confirmation email. Once you reply to that, you will be all set.

If the email address you wish to change to is already a registered member on Groups.io, a page will come up explaining the account merge process and verifying that you would like to merge your accounts.

> Gerald

Hi,
? No one has replied to this question at all.? I'm guessing it got missed.? I'd still
like to hear from any one about whether your group(s) have had trouble with
users who are using GoDaddy domains and are getting bounced because of
it.
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