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Re: owner getting every message posted

 

Sorry, I'm thinking I wasn't very clear. ;)

I'm the owner of the group, and I have only one account.?I have my subscription set to "Full Featured Digest". Yet every time someone posts, I get an email as if I am set to "Individual Messages".? No one else is having this problem.

Obviously I have two email addresses - my owner address ([email protected]) and my regular email address (soandso@...). So I am wondering if this has something to do with me being the owner as opposed to a regular subscriber and whether the settings are different for one vs. the other.?
Re: owner getting every message posted

 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm, Mike K0JTA wrote:
How can I set my group to allow all members to post as soon as they join??
This capability was taken away after spammers "found" groups.io and things started to get out of hand. Letting spammers use groups.io as a means to get their messages out is a very undesirable situation for everyone. Forcing group owners to select at least one of the Spam Control settings seemed like a small price to pay to avoid getting the whole domain blacklisted.

If you don't want to do any moderating it might be a little easier to make the group Restricted and just approve the applicants instead of their messages. Your mileage may vary.

Regards,
Bruce
Re: SOME HELP FOR THOSE UNDERGOING A TRANSFER

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Bruce,

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Great info.? Thanks.? In Yahoo, my files = 0, Photo Albums = 106mgb, and there is only 1 photo in that Photomatic¡± thing so I should be OK with the 1gb .IO limit on the free plan (will be upgrading to Premium once the Board confirms IO as a replacement for Yahoo).

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Thanks for help? -- Dan

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMF] SOME HELP FOR THOSE UNDERGOING A TRANSFER

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On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 11:27 am, PACC Admin wrote:

Thanks for the guideline.? but have one dumb question.? How pray tell does one check ones file and photo allocations for size in Yahoo?

Go to your Yahoo group logged on as Owner. If you open the Files area there should be a line at the top that says "using xxx bytes of maximum yyyMB" (or whatever). Now click on Photos and open the Albums, where you should see a similar line. To be safe, also do this for the Photomatic section (I really am not sure what this even means). To my knowledge only the Files and the Photos in Albums are transferred; so add these numbers up and you should have a reasonably close estimate.?

I believe Yahoo limits are 100 MB for files and 100 GB for photos. Groups.io limits depend on what plan you are on; free groups are limited to 1 GB total. If you have a lot of big photos in your group you could easily end up over your allocation. See /static/pricing

Another thing to look into:? If you establish a maximum size of photos in photo albums in groups.io, larger photos will be rescaled during the transfer and that may help you remain under the limit.?I suggest that 1024x1024 should be adequate for viewing online; those subscribers with a real need to share print-quality images can always upload them to cloud storage and send a link instead. See Admin->Settings->Features->Photos->Max Size in Photos Section.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
Re: Rename Group didn't work

 

Hi, Bruce;

Yes, you have been HIGHLY HELPFUL, and I THANK YOU for your efforts!? I will attempt to re-name my little group soon, but before I do this, I must ask the users for assistance or suggestions on what the new name should be.

Again, THANKS for your clear and complete suggestions, Bruce.? I have not yet followed the link that you had also added in your reply to me, but I will as soon as I complete this note to you.

-Mike-
Re: owner getting every message posted

 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm, Mike K0JTA wrote:
When a new person joins, I must manually allow this person to post.
The way you're doing it, that person will never have a message moderated.? If a problem such as a flame war comes up, you'd have to change each member to keep them from posting.? A better way is to go to your group settings, scroll down to the Spam Control section, and turn off the New Users Moderated box.? If you don't require approval to join the group (first box), you won't be able to turn it off since at least one box in that section must be checked.? If you leave the New Users Moderated box checked, just change the value below it to 1.? Then you'd need to approve the first post from each person, but only once.? By using the New Users Moderated choice, they'll revert to the group setting based on the Moderated box, so no further moderation unless you turn that on later.

Duane
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Re: owner getting every message posted

 

If you have 2 accounts, one for owner and one for member, then each will have separate settings on the Subscription page.

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Re: owner getting every message posted

 

Yep.

[mod note, In-Reply-To: Message #8143]
Re: Premium Plan coverage?

 

Yes, any subgroups are included in the summary of features for a group.

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Re: owner getting every message posted

 

Yes. Are there different subscriptions settings for me as the owner vs. me as a subscriber?
Re: SOME HELP FOR THOSE UNDERGOING A TRANSFER

 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 11:27 am, PACC Admin wrote:
Thanks for the guideline.? but have one dumb question.? How pray tell does one check ones file and photo allocations for size in Yahoo?
Go to your Yahoo group logged on as Owner. If you open the Files area there should be a line at the top that says "using xxx bytes of maximum yyyMB" (or whatever). Now click on Photos and open the Albums, where you should see a similar line. To be safe, also do this for the Photomatic section (I really am not sure what this even means). To my knowledge only the Files and the Photos in Albums are transferred; so add these numbers up and you should have a reasonably close estimate.?

I believe Yahoo limits are 100 MB for files and 100 GB for photos. Groups.io limits depend on what plan you are on; free groups are limited to 1 GB total. If you have a lot of big photos in your group you could easily end up over your allocation. See /static/pricing

Another thing to look into:? If you establish a maximum size of photos in photo albums in groups.io, larger photos will be rescaled during the transfer and that may help you remain under the limit.?I suggest that 1024x1024 should be adequate for viewing online; those subscribers with a real need to share print-quality images can always upload them to cloud storage and send a link instead. See Admin->Settings->Features->Photos->Max Size in Photos Section.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
Re: owner getting every message posted

 

It may be that your service is set to permit postings by individuals, but only after the first message has been moderated.? I am in this situation, also.? -When a new person joins, I must manually allow this person to post.

Sign in, go to ADMIN, then MEMBERS;? Look for the new member, click on the (??-I forgot) button, then scroll down to see the several options for this person.? Click on the second option from the top of this short list of about five at the end of the settings for this individual.?

I have found that I must do this each and EVERY time that I get a new member that has joined!? I had read earlier that the .io was allowing all messages, without moderation, yet I must moderate every new member!?

How can I set my group to allow all members to post as soon as they join?? (Maybe I am misinterpreting the basic setup; I am able to manage OK, but it was a surprise to me.)? (!!)

-Mike-
Re: Error in Transfer Request needing explanation #transfer

 

Dan,

This 3rd one is the only one I need and you can ignore the other two.
Please be aware that GMF is a user-to-user help group. There are no Groups.io employees reading this list.

Your comment should be directed to [email protected] instead.

But before you do that, if you see the same Yahoo Group listed more than once in the "In Process" list (and I'm not certain that's possible) you might want to check each in turn and cancel the requests you don't want.

Shal
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Re: Error in Transfer Request needing explanation #transfer

 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 11:53 am, PACC Admin wrote:
I am one of the people who put in several requests for the transfer of one of my Yahoo Groups before I understood that it would take a week or two for one of the steps.? In my case I put? it in 3 times.

The first two, I requested the transfer ot Yahoo Group? "PACameraCrews" to PACamera-Crew IO group.? ?Subsequently I discovered that what I really wanted was a subgroup, so the 3rd request was to transfer to subgroup [email protected].? This 3rd one is the only one I need and you can ignore the other two.??
You will need to send this note to [email protected]. GMF is a peer group and we try to help each other but the guy who is running the show does not participate in this forum.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Error in Transfer Request needing explanation #transfer

PACC Admin
 

Hi,

I Apologize if this is? repeat of a topic I tried to add yesterday, however I don't see it in the topics list so I must not have completed the post.??

I am one of the people who put in several requests for the transfer of one of my Yahoo Groups before I understood that it would take a week or two for one of the steps.? In my case I put? it in 3 times.

The first two, I requested the transfer ot Yahoo Group? "PACameraCrews" to PACamera-Crew IO group.? ?Subsequently I discovered that what I really wanted was a subgroup, so the 3rd request was to transfer to subgroup [email protected].? This 3rd one is the only one I need and you can ignore the other two.??

Thanks -- Dan
Re: error when beginning transfer

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Thanks! But I have no files and no photos. Strictly messages. Sounds like I should contact support.

Pam :)


On May 5, 2018, at 10:59 AM, "Bruce Bowman" <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 03:52 am, Pam wrote:
These two say they are waiting on action from me. Having already tried to go ahead a dozen times or more, maybe this is an issue for support?
It very well could be.

Free groups are limited to 1 GB of server storage (see?/static/pricing?).? Large Yahoo groups may have more than that in stored files and photos.?If so, the transfer agent will stop your transfer and send you an email asking you what you want to do.

The first thing I would do is go to Yahoo and check your file and photo allocations. If it looks like you could be over the limit, look for this email in your inbox and/or follow up with support.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

Re: SOME HELP FOR THOSE UNDERGOING A TRANSFER

 

Very Nice!

Paul, Ohio, USA

On Saturday, May 5, 2018, 1:25:33 PM EDT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


Just some help for those undergoing a transfer right now (and experiencing some frustration).

  • The transfer is not fully automated (it requires solving a CAPTCHA).?
  • There is one person who does this, and he has been on vacation for the past 10 days. Thus, a 400-group backlog.
  • When Yahoo servers act up (as they often do), it causes further delays.
  • Free groups here are limited to 1 GB of file and photo storage. This is significantly less than Yahoo.

Things you can do.?

  • Check your file and photo allocations in Yahoo beforehand and plan accordingly.?
  • Understand that attachments to messages will not be transferred. This includes any photos in the Photostream.
  • Invite the transfer agent to your YAHOO group (step 2 of the instructions)
  • Invite the transfer agent to your YAHOO group (step 2 of the instructions)
  • I'll say it again:? Invite the transfer agent to your YAHOO group (step 2 of the instructions)
  • Make the transfer agent a Moderator in your YAHOO group (step 4). You should have received an email telling you to do this.
  • THEN give the go-ahead for the transfer
  • Be patient
  • Be even more patient
How do I know that I'm done?

  • The transfer agent will send you an email telling you that. This email will also tell you what it was able to transfer (and often, what it was not)
  • If you're over the storage allocation limits, the agent will stop and send you an email asking you what you want to do.

See also:


Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Rename Group didn't work

 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 10:24 am, Mike K0JTA wrote:
Good day;

I would like to change the name of my .io group to reflect the new model radios that appear, which fall into the SDR (radio) category;

If I do change the NAME of the user group:

- Will the users still receive the previously set up emails from the group with no interaction or update needed?? (I am assuming this is the case.)
Yes, they will continue to be subscribed and receive group emails according to their current subscription settings.?

- Will the users need to change the bookmarked URL to reflect the new user group name, or is this somehow accommodated automatically?
Users will indeed need to change the URL in their bookmarks. The email address is also changed, so they will also have to update the group address in their email client. Also, any links to group content that appear in the message archive or in previously-received emails will now point to never-never land (404 not found).

See also this thread:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/10291381#4029

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: owner getting every message posted

 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 10:25 am, Peter Cook wrote:
Newbie owner here. My subscription settings are set to Full Featured Digest but every time someone posts a new topic I receive it by email. Is there a way to turn this off?
Did you click the Save button at the bottom of the page?

Bruce
Re: Accessibility Features of Groups.io

 

Hi Albert,

The following is based on a PC running Windows 10 using Firefox for my browser.

I think you are seeing the Pending Approval list. When you click on the Member button on the left menu, it opens to "Pending Approval." If you click on "Pending Approval," the drop down menu has "Members" as the first item. When that opens, the "Download" button is in the same place to the right as on the "Pending Approval" page.

After you click download, it produces a text list of your members, including the attributes. Right click on the list and select "Save Page As." It will open the save window with the file name memberlist.csv. Save it and use Excel to open. Do not save it as a text file because it is a mess to straighten out; don't ask how I know!

I Co-Own a Genealogy list and we have a blind member who uses a screen reader. He has been able to navigate our site, including a searchable database we have outside of Groups.io. I'm very impressed by the technology. He is using JAWS (Job Access With Speech) which is produced in the USA by Freedom Scientific.

I hope this helps, if you need anything more, please ask,
Paul, Ohio, USA
Gedmatch A228451, Cousin CGW A428058 & Cousin CSWC A866649

On Saturday, May 5, 2018, 12:27:16 AM EDT, Albert Ruel <albert.gtt@...> wrote:

Hi all.? I am a blind moderator of the [email protected] list, and I¡¯m not finding a way to list/download the entire members list.? The Directory only shows me 3 of the 209 members, and no download or expansion button shows up so that I can get at the rest of the list.? Does anyone know well how to get keyboard access to such features?? As a screen reader user I have absolutely no access to the mouse.? Any help will be appreciated.?

Thx, Albert

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Albert A. Ruel, GTT Coordinator

Canadian Council of the Blind (CCB)

Get Together with Technology Program (GTT)
Re: SOME HELP FOR THOSE UNDERGOING A TRANSFER

PACC Admin
 

Thanks for the guideline.? but have one dumb question.? How pray tell does one check ones file and photo allocations for size in Yahoo?
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