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Modified Message-IDs as a Gmail work-around
On 04/15/2018 07:25 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
Looking at it from a citation/legal POV, is the original Message-IDCHANGE: Instead of changing the Message-ID for all recipients, we nowI'm not able to put my finger on why, but this one has my spidey-sense placed in a field "X-Message-ID"? If so, then it is quasi-acceptable. However, if the original Message-ID is no longer in the message, then you just destroyed the ability to differentiate between messages. I am aware that Message-IDs are, in theory, non-unique. jonathon |
Re: Groups.io and GDPR compliance
On 04/14/2018 09:00 PM, Jim Fisher wrote:
(i) of Article 9(2) as well as Article 9(3); (d) for archiving purposes in the public interest, scientific or historical research purposes or statistical purposes in accordance with Article 89(1) in so far as the right referred to in paragraph 1 is likely to render impossible or seriously impair the achievement of the objectives of that processing; or (e) for the establishment, exercise or defence of legal claims."My guess is that this is talking about either private archives, or archives held by a library, museum, or similar cultural institution, that impose specific criteria, in order to access the archive. (This is just one of the plethora of things with the GDPR that is somewhat ambiguous.) As a general rule of thumb, European Law ignores precedent, as set by case law. However, precedent qua "this is what the law makers meant, based upon this section of this text", is usually accepted. I can see a company in the US claiming that archives were deleted to comply with GDPR, when US law specifically requires the archives to retained, especially when such archives contain the smoking gun. that the court wants/needs to prove malfeasance. this Regulation includes a derogation for organisations with fewer than 250 employees with regard to record-keeping.This is one of those things that appears to be country specific: * Estonian law appears to ignore organization size, dividing organizations into solo-practitioner v non-solo practitioner, and looking into why the data was collected, and retained; * Irish law appears to differentiate between more than 250 employees and less than 250 employees; * I can't decipher the Hungarian website. :( I'm sure Mark's lawyers will sort it out for him, in so far as that is possible in advance of any court rulings.I hope so. I've seen a couple of companies set up geoblocks, so that people from Europe can neither access their website, nor purchase goods nor purchase services from them, stating that they are doing so, because their lawyers were unable to provide the required assurance that they were in compliance with GDPR, and their accountants said that the costs involved in compliance were higher than the revenue obtained from current European customers. In reading through the literature this past fortnight, it looks like people in the data privacy field expect the GDPR to be the blueprint for similar legislation world wide. Personally, I see it as being a non-starter in the US, PRC, Russian and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation/United Muslim Nations (OIC/UMN). The most it can spread is into former European colonies that are neither Russian, nor PRC, nor OIC/UMN client states. Nor am I convinced that GDPR compliance is going to be seen as a good thing, by the majority of individuals outside the EU. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. jonathon |
Re: Help with Removal of Email IO Group Links
Shelly Mystic
Members can do that directly on the home page of the group. It's just rather annoying on every email because my group is private. And if someone wants to share something that I'm sharing with them, they have to delete all of that prior to sending. Thanks for your help though. Mystic On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Ginny T. <gttemari21@...> wrote: That standing footer information is required legally, if I'm not mistaken. Group/list emails (from any place) must include the owner and unsubscribe information. It's required to allow contact with a group owner and to unsubscribe to prevent unwanted direct adds and that sort of thing - regardless of the platform or provider. |
Re: new member approval
#moderation
#membership
N?a?
great -- tx randy.
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Subject: Re: [GMF] new member approval #moderation #membership From: Randy Thomson via Groups.Io <k5mw@...> To: <[email protected]> Date: 4/16/2018 1:23 PM
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Re: new member approval
#moderation
#membership
Randy Thomson
If you don¡¯t want to have to moderate messages after membership is approved, remove the New Users Moderated check. The way you have it set, you will always have to moderate new members until you manually change the moderate state on their subscriptions. If you want to moderate a set number of messages before automatically removing moderate state, then select that number rather than Not Enabled. Not Enabled means don¡¯t ever automatically unmoderate. Randy ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of N?ah
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] new member approval #moderation #membership ? tx / yeah..... so i guessed that this-here would do it; comments / corrections welcome.? does "Not Enabled", below, mean that once approved new members can post without approval / moderation?? this is the protocol i'd like to achieve: once a member is approved, he/she can post away without further intervention from admins. [Excess quote trimmed by moderator] |
Re: #poll Creating Polls
#poll
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:25 pm, mariealline@... wrote:
I created a poll and the poll send an email to the group...Marie; this may sound like a very silly question but did you set up a #Poll hashtag before starting? If you didn't then something strange may well have happened. Have a look at the relevant message on your Group message page; is there a #Poll hashtag present in the Subject? Chris |
Re: Help with Removal of Email IO Group Links
That standing footer information is required legally, if I'm not mistaken. Group/list emails (from any place) must include the owner and unsubscribe information. It's required to allow contact with a group owner and to unsubscribe to prevent unwanted direct adds and that sort of thing - regardless of the platform or provider.
Ginny T. |
Re: new member approval
#moderation
#membership
Choose how many posts you require from new subscribers before they are unmoderated. That's the "unmoderate after".
Frances |
Re: Unable to
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 10:59 AM DMR Quebec <dmrquebec@...> wrote: HI Hi Gerry, Just created new topic. Did not actually send. Have you rechecked? Ullmang
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Re: new member approval
#moderation
#membership
N?a?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýtx / yeah..... so i guessed that this-here would do it; comments / corrections welcome.? does "Not Enabled", below, mean that once approved new members can post without approval / moderation?? this is the protocol i'd like to achieve: once a member is approved, he/she can post away without further intervention from admins.-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GMF] new member approval #moderation #membership From: Frances <frances@...> To: [email protected] Date: 4/16/2018 11:30 AM In Admin, go to Settings. |
Re: Unable to
Are you trying from the footer in an email, by email to the address or from the sidebar in your group? BTW, I just tested and I can start a new topic both through email and through the webpage. |
Re: Two Groups Into One
Pam
So then - another question.
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When the neo stuff started, I moved to another branch of Yahoo - yahoogroups.au. At that point, it was still the classic version and stayed that way for a couple of weeks (if I'd realized it would have been so soon I probably wouldn't have done it. Live and learn, right? lol)
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Now I'm trying to transfer that group and another with the .au after the address and it keeps telling me it's not a valid address. Any clue how I can move these two groups? I can't seem to edit that "@" part of the email address.
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Thanks again!
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Pam? :)
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Pam <dreadflowr@...> wrote:
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new member approval
#moderation
#membership
N?a?
i'm new to groups.io....?i've looked around for answers to these simple questions; can't find'm; doubtless my fault.? in any case.... how do i do these things???tx. |
Re: Cross posting to other lists
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:26 am, Shal Farley wrote:
That would still leave the question of whether Groups.io strips otherSee my post up topic for results of my testing Jeremy |
Using BCC to Moderators
Yvette Money
Good morning all.? My group has noticed that our BCC to Moderators doesn't seem to work.? Is there something in the moderator's subscription page that we need to click on to activate it?? I am an owner for the group and have my setting under Owner email set to "All emails".? Some of the others have theirs set to "Subscribers only".??
There have been times when we have used the BCC to Moderators feature when dealing with a new member so that all of us know what has been done or said regarding that member but not one of us has ever received the messages.? Before posting here I did a search using the keywords "BCC to Moderators" but did not find anything that addressed this particular issue.? If it has been dealt with before I apologize and request you point me in the right direction. Thanks -- Yvette in Ontario |
Re: Images - Copyright and other related issues?
Jim,
As in I can require all images (photos and files) to be moderated -Note, I'm not talking about images uploaded to the Photos section, or Files uploaded to the Files section. Those are different from images embedded in or attached to messages. You have the option to bounce, strip or moderate messages with Attachments. That includes attached files and images. But embedded images may be contained in the HTML message body (data type), hosted remotely (http type) or attached to the message (cid type). I think only the latter would be affected by the Attachments control. See also this message on a related subject: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/4622 and can't I prevent images from being embedded in posts.You can force messages to be plain text only. That's a bit more extreme than blocking or stripping just the embedded images. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Mail Delivery Issue w/ Comcast/Outlook
Yes, he says it's not in the Junk E-mail folder. I'm glad to hear Comcast/Outlook is working for you. I will pass that along to him.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Schechter Sent: April 15, 2018 05:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Mail Delivery Issue w/ Comcast/Outlook I have a Comcast/Outlook mail delivery. While Comcast has a Spam folder, Outlook has a "Junk E-mail" folder which works like a Spam folder. Have your user check the Outlook "Junk E-mail" folder. Bob [excess quote trimmed by moderator] |