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Re: Help with Removal of Email IO Group Links

 

I come from a Mailman (another popular mailing list) where modification of any template is allowed. ?It's a good model to follow :-).


Modified Message-IDs as a Gmail work-around

 

On 04/15/2018 07:25 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
CHANGE: Instead of changing the Message-ID for all recipients, we now
?? only change the Message-ID for the original sender.
I'm not able to put my finger on why, but this one has my spidey-sense
tingling. It just seems wrong to distribute the "same" message with
different Messsage-ID content.
Looking at it from a citation/legal POV, is the original Message-ID
placed in a field "X-Message-ID"? If so, then it is quasi-acceptable.
However, if the original Message-ID is no longer in the message, then
you just destroyed the ability to differentiate between messages. I am
aware that Message-IDs are, in theory, non-unique.

jonathon


Re: Groups.io and GDPR compliance

 

On 04/14/2018 09:00 PM, Jim Fisher wrote:
(i) of Article 9(2) as well as Article 9(3); (d) for archiving purposes in the public interest, scientific or historical research purposes or statistical purposes in accordance with Article 89(1) in so far as the right referred to in paragraph 1 is likely to render impossible or seriously impair the achievement of the objectives of that processing; or (e) for the establishment, exercise or defence of legal claims."
My guess is that this is talking about either private archives, or
archives held by a library, museum, or similar cultural institution,
that impose specific criteria, in order to access the archive. (This is
just one of the plethora of things with the GDPR that is somewhat
ambiguous.)

As a general rule of thumb, European Law ignores precedent, as set by
case law. However, precedent qua "this is what the law makers meant,
based upon this section of this text", is usually accepted.

I can see a company in the US claiming that archives were deleted to
comply with GDPR, when US law specifically requires the archives to
retained, especially when such archives contain the smoking gun. that
the court wants/needs to prove malfeasance.

this Regulation includes a derogation for organisations with fewer than 250 employees with regard to record-keeping.
This is one of those things that appears to be country specific:
* Estonian law appears to ignore organization size, dividing
organizations into solo-practitioner v non-solo practitioner, and
looking into why the data was collected, and retained;
* Irish law appears to differentiate between more than 250 employees and
less than 250 employees;
* I can't decipher the Hungarian website. :(

I'm sure Mark's lawyers will sort it out for him, in so far as that is possible in advance of any court rulings.
I hope so.

I've seen a couple of companies set up geoblocks, so that people from
Europe can neither access their website, nor purchase goods nor purchase
services from them, stating that they are doing so, because their
lawyers were unable to provide the required assurance that they were in
compliance with GDPR, and their accountants said that the costs involved
in compliance were higher than the revenue obtained from current
European customers.

In reading through the literature this past fortnight, it looks like
people in the data privacy field expect the GDPR to be the blueprint for
similar legislation world wide. Personally, I see it as being a
non-starter in the US, PRC, Russian and the Organization of Islamic
Cooperation/United Muslim Nations (OIC/UMN). The most it can spread is
into former European colonies that are neither Russian, nor PRC, nor
OIC/UMN client states.

Nor am I convinced that GDPR compliance is going to be seen as a good
thing, by the majority of individuals outside the EU.

I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

jonathon


Re: Help with Removal of Email IO Group Links

Shelly Mystic
 

Members can do that directly on the home page of the group.

It's just rather annoying on every email because my group is private. And if someone wants to share something that I'm sharing with them, they have to delete all of that prior to sending.

Thanks for your help though.

Mystic

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Ginny T. <gttemari21@...> wrote:
That standing footer information is required legally, if I'm not mistaken. Group/list emails (from any place) must include the owner and unsubscribe information. It's required to allow contact with a group owner and to unsubscribe to prevent unwanted direct adds and that sort of thing - regardless of the platform or provider.
Ginny T.



Re: new member approval #moderation #membership

N?a?
 

great -- tx randy.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GMF] new member approval #moderation #membership
From: Randy Thomson via Groups.Io <k5mw@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: 4/16/2018 1:23 PM

If you don¡¯t want to have to moderate messages after membership is approved, remove the New Users Moderated check. The way you have it set, you will always have to moderate new members until you manually change the moderate state on their subscriptions. If you want to moderate a set number of messages before automatically removing moderate state, then select that number rather than Not Enabled. Not Enabled means don¡¯t ever automatically unmoderate.

Randy

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Re: new member approval #moderation #membership

Randy Thomson
 

If you don¡¯t want to have to moderate messages after membership is approved, remove the New Users Moderated check. The way you have it set, you will always have to moderate new members until you manually change the moderate state on their subscriptions. If you want to moderate a set number of messages before automatically removing moderate state, then select that number rather than Not Enabled. Not Enabled means don¡¯t ever automatically unmoderate.

Randy

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of N?ah
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] new member approval #moderation #membership

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tx / yeah..... so i guessed that this-here would do it; comments / corrections welcome.? does "Not Enabled", below, mean that once approved new members can post without approval / moderation?? this is the protocol i'd like to achieve: once a member is approved, he/she can post away without further intervention from admins.

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Re: #poll Creating Polls #poll

 

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 02:25 pm, mariealline@... wrote:
I created a poll and the poll send an email to the group...
Marie; this may sound like a very silly question but did you set up a #Poll hashtag before starting? If you didn't then something strange may well have happened. Have a look at the relevant message on your Group message page; is there a #Poll hashtag present in the Subject?

Chris


Re: Help with Removal of Email IO Group Links

 

That standing footer information is required legally, if I'm not mistaken. Group/list emails (from any place) must include the owner and unsubscribe information. It's required to allow contact with a group owner and to unsubscribe to prevent unwanted direct adds and that sort of thing - regardless of the platform or provider.
Ginny T.


Re: new member approval #moderation #membership

 

Choose how many posts you require from new subscribers before they are unmoderated. That's the "unmoderate after".

Frances


Re: Unable to

 



On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 10:59 AM DMR Quebec <dmrquebec@...> wrote:
HI
This AM - am unable to send NEW Topic in site

Has something changed?
Thanks
Gerry

Hi Gerry,
Just created new topic. Did not actually send. Have you rechecked?
Ullmang
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Re: new member approval #moderation #membership

N?a?
 

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tx / yeah..... so i guessed that this-here would do it; comments / corrections welcome.? does "Not Enabled", below, mean that once approved new members can post without approval / moderation?? this is the protocol i'd like to achieve: once a member is approved, he/she can post away without further intervention from admins.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GMF] new member approval #moderation #membership
From: Frances <frances@...>
To: [email protected]
Date: 4/16/2018 11:30 AM
In Admin, go to Settings.
i.e.
/g/YOURGROUP/settings

Frances


Re: Unable to

 

Are you trying from the footer in an email, by email to the address or from the sidebar in your group?
If it is by email, are you using your correct email address? The one that is known to Groups.io.
If you wish to, you can add an email alias - top right corner of your group page. That will allow you to email from more than one address. You only receive to your registered address though.

BTW, I just tested and I can start a new topic both through email and through the webpage.

Frances in Toronto


Re: new member approval #moderation #membership

 

In Admin, go to Settings.
i.e.
/g/YOURGROUP/settings

Frances


Re: Two Groups Into One

Pam
 

So then - another question.
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When the neo stuff started, I moved to another branch of Yahoo - yahoogroups.au. At that point, it was still the classic version and stayed that way for a couple of weeks (if I'd realized it would have been so soon I probably wouldn't have done it. Live and learn, right? lol)
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Now I'm trying to transfer that group and another with the .au after the address and it keeps telling me it's not a valid address. Any clue how I can move these two groups? I can't seem to edit that "@" part of the email address.
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Thanks again!
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Pam? :)
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Pam <dreadflowr@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for the information.
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This past week in Yahoo groups has proven yet again why we gotta get out of there, lol.
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And thanks to the group, in general. Many of these messages have gone over my head, haha, but the rest have been helpful for when I finally get this process started over the weekend.
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And never fear (as if all you generous people would), I will poke the list again if I have a question.
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Thanks again so much!
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Pam? :)
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new member approval #moderation #membership

N?a?
 

i'm new to groups.io....?i've looked around for answers to these simple questions; can't find'm; doubtless my fault.? in any case....

i just set up a new group, and it's been approved.? i'd like to configure the following:

[1] anyone who wants to become a member must first be approved by one of the admins.? (so far, i'm the only admin.)

[2]? any member can post, add files & pix, etc, without moderation, ie without any intervention from admins.

how do i do these things???tx.


Unable to

 

HI
This AM - am unable to send NEW Topic in groups.io site

Has something changed?
Thanks
Gerry


Re: Cross posting to other lists

 

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:26 am, Shal Farley wrote:
That would still leave the question of whether Groups.io strips other
recipients from the To field, and whether it strips the CC field,
neither of which I've tested.
See my post up topic for results of my testing

Jeremy


Using BCC to Moderators

Yvette Money
 

Good morning all.? My group has noticed that our BCC to Moderators doesn't seem to work.? Is there something in the moderator's subscription page that we need to click on to activate it?? I am an owner for the group and have my setting under Owner email set to "All emails".? Some of the others have theirs set to "Subscribers only".??
There have been times when we have used the BCC to Moderators feature when dealing with a new member so that all of us know what has been done or said regarding that member but not one of us has ever received the messages.?
Before posting here I did a search using the keywords "BCC to Moderators" but did not find anything that addressed this particular issue.? If it has been dealt with before I apologize and request you point me in the right direction.
Thanks
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Yvette in Ontario


Re: Images - Copyright and other related issues?

 

Jim,

As in I can require all images (photos and files) to be moderated -
Note, I'm not talking about images uploaded to the Photos section, or Files uploaded to the Files section. Those are different from images embedded in or attached to messages.

You have the option to bounce, strip or moderate messages with Attachments. That includes attached files and images.

But embedded images may be contained in the HTML message body (data type), hosted remotely (http type) or attached to the message (cid type). I think only the latter would be affected by the Attachments control. See also this message on a related subject:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/4622

and can't I prevent images from being embedded in posts.
You can force messages to be plain text only. That's a bit more extreme than blocking or stripping just the embedded images.

Shal


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Re: Mail Delivery Issue w/ Comcast/Outlook

 

Yes, he says it's not in the Junk E-mail folder. I'm glad to hear Comcast/Outlook is working for you. I will pass that along to him.

Thanks,
Pam

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Schechter
Sent: April 15, 2018 05:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Mail Delivery Issue w/ Comcast/Outlook

I have a Comcast/Outlook mail delivery. While Comcast has a Spam folder, Outlook has a "Junk E-mail" folder which works like a Spam folder. Have your user check the Outlook "Junk E-mail" folder.

Bob


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