On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40 am, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
I am dreading going through them individually and setting them all to Post.
I sympathize, but that's your only option currently (and I think you mean set them to NuM). I had to go through it recently with a 3,000-member group I helped transfer over, the majority of whose members had not yet posted. I just did it a little at a time. I left the really ancient members alone with their M status, figuring that if they had not posted yet, they're unlikely to ever do so; and that if and when they do, the mods can just deal with it and unmoderate them by hand. ? -- J
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I am new to Groups.io and have just set up a group here as the owner.
I am transferring - hopefully - the content and particularly the membership list of a Facebook Group.? I was led to? believe by someone that recommended this group, and also by the text I saw when first getting on the website/group, that importing from Facebook was straight forward.? Now that I have the group set up, I can't find out how to do it.? Can someone help please?
Bill
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:59 am, J_Catlady wrote:
It will unmoderate all her currently moderated members (which is what I meant by ¡®everybody¡¯ - you are right that it will affect only those not set to the default)
Sorry, was driving, meant the opposite. Bottom line is that NuM needs to be set by hand for any old members coming over from yahoo who are on mod in yahoo only because they haven't yet posted, because the setting did not exist there. ? -- J
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them
In that case, you must have the Spam Control section of your Settings set for Moderated.? That's the only way I can see this happening. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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I entirely agree that setting them to Default group policy would be best. My issue is that they are already set to that, and yet I am being asked to moderate them. But I will give it a go.
Thanks for the tips for making it easier. I have certainly appreciated being able to deal with Bouncing members 20 at a time instead of individually as in Y. Being able to do it 100 at a time will ne marvellous.
Elizabeth
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On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:57, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40 am, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
setting them all to Post
The best choice would probably be "Default group policy". That way if there's ever a serious group problem, you can quickly switch the group to moderated, then back to unmoderated after things cool down.
To minimize the amount of work, there are a couple of things you can do. Change your account preference settings to display 100 items per page (or infinite scroll if you want to try to do them all at once.) Then go down through the list to select the check box beside the names for whichever action you want to perform. At the bottom of the page, use the Actions drop down to select the one you want for those users and verify it. If you want to select another group to change to another setting, just repeat.
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Shal,?
It will NOT do what she wants. It will unmoderate all her currently moderated members (which is what I meant by ¡®everybody¡¯ - you are right that it will affect only those not set to the default) but she doesn¡¯t want to unmoderate them. She wants them set to NuM.
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On Mar 29, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Shal Farley < shals2nd@...> wrote:
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40 am, Elizabeth Bentley wrote:
setting them all to Post
The best choice would probably be "Default group policy".? That way if there's ever a serious group problem, you can quickly switch the group to moderated, then back to unmoderated after things cool down. To minimize the amount of work, there are a couple of things you can do.? Change your account preference settings to display 100 items per page (or infinite scroll if you want to try to do them all at once.)? Then go down through the list to select the check box beside the names for whichever action you want to perform.? At the bottom of the page, use the Actions drop down to select the one you want for those users and verify it.? If you want to select another group to change to another setting, just repeat. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Bruce,
There¡¯s no NuM feature in yahoo. It¡¯s not a setting: it¡¯s just an FYI to members that they are on moderation until a moderator manually unmoderates them. The problem is that the posting status set in Yahoo doesn¡¯t match the ?possible statuses in , so that in transferring a group, has no way of knowing which M members should stay M and which ones should be set to NuM because they were M only by virtue of the fact that they had not yet posted.?
That is why I¡¯ve suggestec an option in beta to make them all one way or the other during the transfer. It¡¯s not perfect but it might be helpful in groups where, for example, either many members have not yet posted (in which case the choice would be to set all M members to NuM) or many members are on legitimate moderation, in which case the choice could be to keep the M status. Right now, the transfer defaults to the latter.
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On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Bruce Bowman < bruce.bowman@...> wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:10 am, J_Catlady wrote:
That's because they came over as "M" (moderated) from your yahoo group, which had no "new member moderated" feature.
No, that's incorrect. Y!G does have a NuM feature and it's the same as GIO...it's in the group settings, not the subscriber settings. See attached screenshot. I support your efforts to somehow carry over this feature during migration, but to do so will entail making some assumptions regarding where existing Y!G users are in the process of first-post moderation. Lurkers can spend years in this stage if they've never posted anything. Bruce
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Yes, I want New members, or rather those who have never sent a message, to have their first message moderated and then go to unmoderated status, though there are some members who remain moderated, as they are commercial suppliers.
However many members who have been posting for years (including myself) have had posts sent to moderation. Multiple times!
I am dreading going through them individually and setting them all to Post.
Elizabeth
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On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:04, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:09 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Go to Admin->Settings->Spam Control and uncheck the "Moderated" b
Doing that will unmoderate everybody. I don't think that's what she wants.
No, doing that will unmoderate those members whose posting privilege is Default group policy rather than one of the overrides. Which is almost certainly exactly what Elizabeth wants.
She wants NuM and she will have to do it by hand for the existing members coming from yahoo.
That's correct.
Regardless of how they got that way, any member whose Posting Privilege is Override: moderated will continue to have their messages held pending until their privilege is manually changed. My usual approach to such members is to be lazy: I wait for their next message to land in the Pending list and change their Privilege to Default group policy at that time.
Unless I want to keep that individual moderated, of course. Then I can choose between leaving them on indefinite moderation or changing them to Override: new user moderated, but the latter only makes sense if the group has enabled Unmoderate After to a setting higher than 1.
Shal
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They are from individual members. And some of my own posts have also been sent for moderation. On 29 Mar 2018, at 15:11, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
Can you confirm that the approx 50 messages per day are from individual members?
If not, then there must be a settings problem. More detail, please!
Frances
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It isn¡¯t checked, which I assumed meant members could post. If I check it then presumably all members are moderated. Or is there something I have missed?
Elizabeth
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On 29 Mar 2018, at 15:30, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Go to Admin->Settings->Spam Control and uncheck the "Moderated" box. Be sure to click "Update Group."
Bruce
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:10 am, J_Catlady wrote:
That's because they came over as "M" (moderated) from your yahoo group, which had no "new member moderated" feature.
No, that's incorrect. Y!G does have a NuM feature and it's the same as GIO...it's in the group settings, not the subscriber settings. See attached screenshot. I support your efforts to somehow carry over this feature during migration, but to do so will entail making some assumptions regarding where existing Y!G users are in the process of first-post moderation. Lurkers can spend years in this stage if they've never posted anything. Bruce
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:59 am, J_Catlady wrote:
However long it takes, or how it happened, logout is clearly what happened in this case.
Obviously.? I suspect a lot of new accounts were created ~30 days ago and will not be surprised to see more inquiries of this nature. Bruce
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I just sent this suggestion to beta:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/yahoo_transfer_option_num/16428791
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:59 am, Sharon Villines wrote:
How do I start from scratch?
You can't.? That's the way it works.? There have been some discussions on the beta group on changing this, but it doesn't appear that a decision has been made to do so. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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I set up a custom invitation message but my message is just inserted in the middle of the default. ---------------- Hello, You have been invited by Sharon Villines to join the Groups.io group [email protected]. The following message was included by Sharon Villines: Hello [Name], This is an invitation to join [email protected], the principal communications channel for Takoma Village announcements, questions, information, posting of agendas, minutes, notes, security and emergency warnings, etc. This is a restricted list for members and residents. To accept the invitation, please reply to this email, or you may accept the invitation by going to the Group Home page. If you accept using the Group Home page, you will also be able to set up a password and set your preferences for message delivery. If you are not interested, or if [Invitee Email Address] is not your email address, please ignore this email. If you have questions about this invitation, send them to sharon@... If you have questions about this invitation, send them to [email protected]. To accept the invitation, please reply to this email, or you may accept the invitation on the website. If you are not interested, or if bookorder@... is not your email address, please ignore this email. ¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª How do I start from scratch? Sharon ---- Sharon Villines [email protected]
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 08:09 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Go to Admin->Settings->Spam Control and uncheck the "Moderated" b
Doing that will unmoderate everybody. I don't think that's what she wants.? She wants NuM and she will have to do it by hand for the existing members coming from yahoo. ? -- J
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