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Re: Group archive discovered to be publicly viewable
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 03:50 PM, BarryS wrote:
After several years of assumed security, we have discovered that our group's archive settings allowed 'anyone to view'. We have corrected the settings, so the archive will be viewable only by group members going forward. Keep in mind that while the archives were available to the public, they were probably scanned by Google and other search companies.? Eventually they'll realize they can't get there any more and give up.? It's my understanding that Google will delete old search results when this happens, but I don't know about others.? There's also a way to force Google to try a new scan to speed up the process, but I don't have it handy.
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Re: Group archive discovered to be publicly viewable
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 04:50 PM, BarryS wrote:
Nevertheless, it would be useful to know if/when the archive has been viewed by nonmembers.Groups.io stores no record of viewing by members, let alone nonmembers. ?
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Re: Migrating Old Yahoo Archived Mailing Lists Messages to Groups.IO
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 10:58 AM, Martin Iturbide wrote:
Interesting that archive.org was able to scrape some of these groups and retrieve messages with full email addresses. I thought you had to be a group admin to do that. The archive I just downloaded contained content from 41 separate OS/2-related groups. Of those that archive.org was able to get any messages, they seem to be in mbox format, and some of the messages within are in html.?
You might try posting a private message to Mark Fletcher ([email protected]). In the past, he has been willing to manually import such files in exchange for a year of Premium ($220 per group).
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You could try also using Lena's Perl script (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251) to re-post the messages to a group or subgroup. The script itself is available at /g/GroupManagersForum/files/ioimport.zip That approach would be free, but it runs at 40 messages/hour, and I have never been able to get it to work. I didn't try very hard, though.
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See also /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/15860 . Some of the info therein is out of date.
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Bruce
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Re: Member difficulties
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 08:02 AM, UKenGB wrote:
Is it possible to upgrade to Premium for just one month and then revert to Basic?Yes. There is a green button on the Upgrade page specifically for that purpose. ?
Follow the instructions at /helpcenter/single/ownersmanual#groupproceduresgroup_upgradinghtm and select the rightmost button in the Premium block. Your cost will be $20 if you have <500 members. More members than that, and I'm afraid you'll have to pay extra.
We have received no reports of any problem with this.
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Re: Migrating Old Yahoo Archived Mailing Lists Messages to Groups.IO
Thanks. Creating PDFs is an alternative.
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But I'm open for more alternatives on how to organize the Yahoo Groups backup in a way that are searchable for the public. Preferable if those can be imported to a Groups.io group.
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Member difficulties
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI run a number of Groups and try to impress on all members to NOT use a work email address and ALWAYS set up a password to enable access to the account in the event of email problems. Do they listen? No.So periodically someone changes their email address, loses access to the old one and has never set up their password for access to their account. and so are locked out. Of course they can join again, but as a different member and hence not associated with previous activities. For a free/Basic Group, of course even the owner cannot fix this, but it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility to pay for a month's upgrade to Premium in order to fix the problem, then revert to Basic. However hoping for help with a couple of questions about this:- ? Is it possible to upgrade to Premium for just one month and then revert to Basic? ? When reverting back to Basic, can I be sure we will retain the features we currently have as a pre 2000 Group? Hope someone can help with this. Ken ?G i l l e t t _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ |
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Re: Question: +owner messages
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I do check for group.io mail frequently in outlook on my computer. I use the app if I am out and about. The reason I said a pending owner message notification would be useful is that I have asked members of my listserv to use that address if they want something
changed or done with a message sent to the listserv. Most people send those messages to my personal email, and while I check that frequently as well, I go to the listserv messages first - as we are a "moderate all messages" group.?
It's not a huge deal to me, I replied to an ask from someone to say if we thought that a pending owner message would be useful to us. I can live without it, and have since we moved our group from Yahoo to groups.io - right when groups.io began. I love the high functionality of groups.io and am grateful to Mark that he created it. Wicca From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bruce Bowman via groups.io <bowman46118@...>
Sent:?Saturday, March 15, 2025 6:02 AM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [GMF] Question: +owner messages ?
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 05:16 AM, Wicca Jampolsky Davidson wrote:
I think a pending owner message flag would be useful as the members of my 1036 person group use?the +owner email to call my attention to some detail in a message they have sent for posting.? Okay, I think I finally get it. You (and possibly Ken) use the app/web interface exclusively for groups.io functions and don't check email often (if at all). On that basis I can understand why some indicator that an +owner message has arrived might be
useful.
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I'm not fond of the Pending idea, though. The problem is, how do you clear the "flag?" Are we going to force group admins to log in just to do this? Sending you an email to tell you that you have an email doesn't strike me as productive, either.?
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Rather than a flag or badge, it might be useful to have an option?to set up a Moderator
web/app notification?for this (/helpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/notifications/notifications_mod_individual_groups.htm),
perhaps including a link to the message. Those group admins who do check their email regularly can simply not turn it on.
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Nonetheless, please note that +owner messages from non-members?are not stored on the site. Unless Mark changes that too, you'll still have to launch your email to address those.
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Bruce
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P.S. GMF gets a lot of spam sent to +owner. No way would I turn on such a notification...the emails are bad enough.
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Re: Question: +owner messages
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 05:16 AM, Wicca Jampolsky Davidson wrote:
I think a pending owner message flag would be useful as the members of my 1036 person group use?the +owner email to call my attention to some detail in a message they have sent for posting.? Okay, I think I finally get it. You (and possibly Ken) use the app/web interface exclusively for groups.io functions and don't check email often (if at all). On that basis I can understand why some indicator that an +owner message has arrived might be useful.
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I'm not fond of the Pending idea, though. The problem is, how do you clear the "flag?" Are we going to force group admins to log in just to do this? Sending you an email to tell you that you have an email doesn't strike me as productive, either.?
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Rather than a flag or badge, it might be useful to have an option to set up a Moderator web/app notification for this (/helpcenter/manual/ownersmanual/notifications/notifications_mod_individual_groups.htm), perhaps including a link to the message. Those group admins who do check their email regularly can simply not turn it on.
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Nonetheless, please note that +owner messages from non-members are not stored on the site. Unless Mark changes that too, you'll still have to launch your email to address those.
Regards,
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P.S. GMF gets a lot of spam sent to +owner. No way would I turn on such a notification...the emails are bad enough.
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Re: Question: +owner messages
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I think a pending owner message flag would be useful as the members of my 1036 person group use?the +owner email to call my attention to some detail in a message they have sent for posting.?
Wicca?
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bruce Bowman via groups.io <bowman46118@...>
Sent:?Friday, March 14, 2025 8:00 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [GMF] Question: +owner messages ?
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:41 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
Can I assume there isn¡¯t a?folder called?¡°+owner messages¡±?In the Activity Log, pull down the filter menu and select action "Message - to +owner". You can get a complete list that way. ?
Generally, though...
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-- In the web interface, +owner messages are grouped by subscriber.?
-- There is no separate notification you can set up for when an +owner message arrives.?
-- As best I can tell, +owner messages from non-members are not stored at all.
Obviously, there isn¡¯t a pending owner message flag. Is that something that would be useful to others? Superficially, I'm not too interested in...
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-- receiving a notification that an +owner message has arrived,
-- reviewing it for content, and then
-- releasing it back to myself.
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That said, there may be some use case that I'm not understanding.
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Bruce
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Re: Question: +owner messages
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:41 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
Can I assume there isn¡¯t a?folder called?¡°+owner messages¡±?In the Activity Log, pull down the filter menu and select action "Message - to +owner". You can get a complete list that way. ?
Generally, though...
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-- In the web interface, +owner messages are grouped by subscriber.?
-- There is no separate notification you can set up for when an +owner message arrives.?
-- As best I can tell, +owner messages from non-members are not stored at all.
Obviously, there isn¡¯t a pending owner message flag. Is that something that would be useful to others? Superficially, I'm not too interested in...
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-- receiving a notification that an +owner message has arrived,
-- reviewing it for content, and then
-- releasing it back to myself.
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That said, there may be some use case that I'm not understanding.
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Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Question: +owner messages
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 02:41 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
Thank you, but that doesn¡¯t alert me to a message being posted. In this case, I happened to look at my Outlook e-mail and noticed it. Can I assume there isn¡¯t a?folder called?¡°+owner messages¡±? ?
Check your subscription for the group where you are owner or moderator.
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Make sure this is ticked for your group.
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You should be able to create a folder in your email account. That's where the messages are sent.
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Re: Question: +owner messages
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Bruce & Frances, Ken S ? "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." God ? From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 7:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Question: +owner messages ? On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 07:17 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
If you click open someone's member record, there's a pull-down "Membership" menu where you can select "+owner messages." This will display a sorted list of every one they've ever sent, with the most recent first. Note: Until about a year ago, this page was accessed via a button, not a menu. ? ? Of course, you have to know who sent it to do this. To retrieve a single, recently-sent message, clicking the link in the corresponding activity log entry might be easier than trying to hunt down their member record. ? Regards, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Migrating Old Yahoo Archived Mailing Lists Messages to Groups.IO
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 11:48 AM, Cal wrote:
Since a backup/archive is in a format that Groups.io created... This topic is discussing a Yahoo Groups archive (see subject line).
...why does not provide a way to restore from an archive?? If you're talking about a groups.io archive, I don't know.
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-- Perhaps it's just difficult to code and he hasn't bothered to write a script to make it happen.
-- Perhaps Mark wants to keep such functionality in reserve to provide additional cash flow for himself.
-- Perhaps a backup could fall into the wrong hands and thereby allow someone to steal someone else's group (or abuse in some other manner).
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We can only speculate.
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Re: Migrating Old Yahoo Archived Mailing Lists Messages to Groups.IO
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 09:58 AM, Martin Iturbide wrote:
But this backup is just plain text and it is not simple for people to search on that discussions or even be indexed by Google. If it were me, I'd probably create PDF files.? Then the reader could be used to search for information, as well as easily downloaded by members.
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Migrating Old Yahoo Archived Mailing Lists Messages to Groups.IO
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I'm new on this mailing list, so if I'm in the wrong place asking this, a pointer to the right place will be appreciated.
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I'm part of the OS/2 Warp community. Since Yahoo Groups went down, we started to use Groups.IO without any issue.
We had a lot of useful material on the Yahoo Groups discussion that . But this backup is just plain text and it is not simple for people to search on that discussions or even be indexed by Google.
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My question, is there any way, or experience on migrating this Yahoo Groups backup text backup into Groups.io? The idea will be to create a read only group to show the messages in an organized way and that can be searchable.
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If Groups.io is not the ideal place to put this backups, is there any other suggestion?
Regards Martin ?
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Re: Question: +owner messages
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 07:17 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
It's probably been asked and answered, but where do I find the +owner messages? If you click open someone's member record, there's a pull-down "Membership" menu where you can select "+owner messages." This will display a sorted list of every one they've ever sent, with the most recent first. Note: Until about a year ago, this page was accessed via a button, not a menu.
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Of course, you have to know who sent it to do this. To retrieve a single, recently-sent message, clicking the link in the corresponding activity log entry might be easier than trying to hunt down their member record.
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Bruce
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Re: Question: +owner messages
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 07:17 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
It's probably been asked and answered, but where do I find the +owner messages? I received the message in my ¡°Outlook inbox¡±, but when I look in the groups.io online WEB page, the only place I find any reference to the post is under Admin->activity. So you found the message in Admin - activity. And now click on the message - the subject - to open it up. You can read and reply from there.
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