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Re: Getting statistics of member activity

 

The OP wants to send a message to all those who have never posted

Assuming the OP has a group where approval is required for the first or subsequent post

Go to the members list under admin

filter by NMM (new member moderated) who by default have never posted

Select the list and scroll to the bottom, and select send message

Add subject line and message text and send
(I think you can also send any notification you have set up at the same time)

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Also a way to email all members who have never posted for
example, and any other useful tricks?


Re: Getting statistics of member activity

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 11:06 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
Also a way to email all members who have never posted for example, and any other useful tricks?
I can't think of a way to do this via the web UI.? You could write some code to use the API though.? If you use the /getmembers endpoint, it returns a member object for each member.? The member object contains a timestamp for the most_recent_message and it may return 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z if no message has been posted so you could identify the members in question. You would need to do additional processing to send them an email after that. I haven't tested this but the API would be my start point if I wanted to do it.
I've done some testing and the most_recent_message always seems to be set to 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z so using it to identify members who have not posted a message does not work as it stands. I've raised a query on to try and determine if it should be set or if it has some other purpose.
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My previous post referred to a 'member object' but to be accurate, it's actually called a 'Member Info Object' in the API documentation.
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Regards
Andy


Re: Members and directory have different numbers?

 

Figured it out. Bouncing addresses are not counted in the directory number.?


Re: Members and directory have different numbers?

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 08:36 PM, Patty BryanTaff wrote:
As an admin I look at my group members list and there are 257 members. Then I go to the directory and it says it¡¯s showing 242 of 242 members.?
can someone explain where the other members went?
This means you have 15 members who are either Bouncing, Not Confirmed, or RI.
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Such inactive subscriptions do not count against your membership quota.
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Regards,
Bruce


Re: Members and directory have different numbers?

 

As an admin I look at my group members list and there are 257 members. Then I go to the directory and it says it¡¯s showing 242 of 242 members.?
can someone explain where the other members went? ?I know the directory won¡¯t show people with private accounts but shouldn¡¯t the total number listed on the directory page actually be the total number of members?
Accounts that are bouncing (B status badge), or whose email address is not confirmed (NC), also do not appear in the Directory.
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The glossary says: ?
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Member directory
An index of the profiles of group members who opt to share their profile with the group. Owners can specify whether a group¡¯s directory is visible to all members or only to owners and moderators, or whether the directory feature is enabled at all.
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In Admin - Member list
A list of all of the members in a group along with their display names, email addresses, message delivery options, join dates, and bounce status. The list also includes any members who have been banned. Owners can specify whether a group¡¯s member list is visible to all members (which requires the group to have restricted membership) or only to owners and moderators.
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Members and directory have different numbers?

 

As an admin I look at my group members list and there are 257 members. Then I go to the directory and it says it¡¯s showing 242 of 242 members.?
can someone explain where the other members went? ?I know the directory won¡¯t show people with private accounts but shouldn¡¯t the total number listed on the directory page actually be the total number of members?


Re: Getting statistics of member activity

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 10:40 PM, SafeTex wrote:
If I go into "Directory" and choose a member of a group, I can see how many times they have posted a message.
But I have to do this one at a time.
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Is there any way of getting such statistics in one go, such as seeing how many times all the members have started a thread or participated in one. Maybe what tags they used if they started a post,
If you have or upgrade to an Enterprise group, you have the option of using Google Analytics and that may give some of what you want. An alternative would be to download the Activity Log and do some processing on that.

Also a way to email all members who have never posted for example, and any other useful tricks?
I can't think of a way to do this via the web UI.? You could write some code to use the API though.? If you use the /getmembers endpoint, it returns a member object for each member.? The member object contains a timestamp for the most_recent_message and it may return 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z if no message has been posted so you could identify the members in question. You would need to do additional processing to send them an email after that. I haven't tested this but the API would be my start point if I wanted to do it.
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Regards
Andy
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Re: Getting statistics of member activity

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 05:40 PM, SafeTex wrote:
If I go into "Directory" and choose a member of a group, I can see how many times they have posted a message.
But I have to do this one at a time.
Just to start this off, Directory isn't the place to look if you want to see all of your group members. You need to use Admin, Members. There are some dropdown menus once you are there. It won't be in one go, though. It will be member by member. There is also Activity.?
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It is possible stats may be available through exporting the message archive. Anyone with info or experience on this??
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Getting statistics of member activity

 

Hello GMF members.

If I go into "Directory" and choose a member of a group, I can see how many times they have posted a message.
But I have to do this one at a time.
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Is there any way of getting such statistics in one go, such as seeing how many times all the members have started a thread or participated in one. Maybe what tags they used if they started a post,

Also a way to email all members who have never posted for example, and any other useful tricks?
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I think the answer is always going to be "no", but I want to make sure.

Thanks


Re: Subgroup delivery preferences inheritance by default #direct-add #settings #subgroups

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 06:31 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The answer is No as you suspected.
Thanks Andy. I'll layout an enhancement proposal for this functionality and submit it to Beta this evening.
-kenny


Re: Subgroup delivery preferences inheritance by default #direct-add #settings #subgroups

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 04:29 AM, Kenny Paul wrote:
I've ping-ponged between the owner and user guides and I think the answer is "No", but I'm not 100% sure...?
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Desired behavior:? Once an individual user's delivery preferences for main have been set, any subgroup they join after that point will automatically inherit that same delivery preference.? ?This is at the user level, not Admin -> Membership -> Defaults for the whole group itself.??
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The answer is No as you suspected. Each subgroup operates almost as a stand alone group and new joiners will take the defaults set for that rather than those of the main/parent group.?
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Regards
Andy


Subgroup delivery preferences inheritance by default #direct-add #settings #subgroups

 

I've ping-ponged between the owner and user guides and I think the answer is "No", but I'm not 100% sure...?
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Desired behavior:? Once an individual user's delivery preferences for main have been set, any subgroup they join after that point will automatically inherit that same delivery preference.? ?This is at the user level, not Admin -> Membership -> Defaults for the whole group itself.??
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Usecase:
  • An easily confused elderly user base who have demonstrated difficulty doing anything beyond sending email
  • Users always want the same setting everywhere?
  • The admin for Main creates the user's account via a direct add with no subgroups included
  • All subgroup joins after the direct-add are self service using the "join" button and do not require moderator approval
  • Don't want the added burden on the group moderators of constantly having to validate/tweak someone's delivery preferences for them whenever someone new joins their subgroup
Thanks!
-kenny
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Re: Other notice for email bouncing

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 05:03 PM, Ken Cameron wrote:
Can groups.io send the 'you are bouncing' message via something other
than the email address that is bouncing?
No, that's the way it's set up.? You can always make such a suggestion on the .
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


Re: Strange Behaviour

 

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Sorry no helpful suggestions on your issue but I moderate a Google Group and there are similar issues there. We have not tracked down the cause and sometimes it¡¯s hard to get exact circumstances due to variances with member¡¯s tech understanding.

  • Someone reports they see replies but not original.
  • Other members see the original post, obviously since they replied
  • Reporting member checked Spam, Junk, Filters, Rules, and searches by Subject to see if message went astray
  • Member who¡¯s original post wasn¡¯t received by reporting member can send message directly and it is received just fine

Since it doesn¡¯t appear to be a problem with the sender (all messages received by others OK), it¡¯s either the group or the receiver. Can¡¯t be a global problem with the group because working fine with other members. Unless the group is glitching and NOT sending random messages to one member, we are back to the receiver.

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My suggestions to that reporting member:

  • I can delete & re-add their membership
  • Reporting member change their email password because what if someone else is intercepting emails and happened to delete that one?

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Isa

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Isa Cocallas (she/her)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill WT0DX <wt0dx1@...>
Date: Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 10:04 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GMF] Strange Behaviour

This has happened before, but only when an email message is sent to multiple groups. I have no trouble receiving other group messages sent to these groups. I think you might be correct about an Outlook rule filtering issue on my email client,

This has happened before, but only when an email message is sent to multiple groups.? I have no trouble receiving other group messages sent to these groups.? I think you might be correct about an Outlook rule filtering issue on my email client, thanks for the suggestion!

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73 Bill WT0DX


Other notice for email bouncing

 

Can groups.io send the 'you are bouncing' message via something other
than the email address that is bouncing? Like a text or alternate
email address?

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com


Re: Privacy

 

Sue,

With all of the data breaches recently the name and phone number could have come from any of them.

Best,
Larry

On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 9:49?AM Sue Hamilton via <shamilton6=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Steve-
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We are a Neighborhood Emergency Team.? We have a Roster and maps that show names, address and phone. Only members can see this and download!? Thanks for this¡­safety begins at home.? I am going to tighten up the rosters and Maps!
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Sue
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Re: Strange Behaviour

 

This has happened before, but only when an email message is sent to multiple groups.? I have no trouble receiving other group messages sent to these groups.? I think you might be correct about an Outlook rule filtering issue on my email client, thanks for the suggestion!
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73 Bill WT0DX


Re: Strange Behaviour

 

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 09:56 PM, Bill WT0DX wrote:
Also, the "missing" email message was shown in my message history for both groups, but I never received the email.?
Just one message? I was under the impression that this was a continuing problem.
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If it's just one missing message, I wouldn't worry about it too much. If the problem persists, check any filters set up in your mail client to see if one of them could be rerouting/deleting group messages. It's been known to happen -- to me.? :)
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Beyond that, I have no further suggestions; but maybe someone else has another idea.
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Good luck,
Bruce


Re: Privacy

 

Thanks Steve-
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We are a Neighborhood Emergency Team. ?We have a Roster and maps that show names, address and phone. Only members can see this and download! ?Thanks for this¡­safety begins at home. ?I am going to tighten up the rosters and Maps!
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Sue
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Re: Strange Behaviour

 

Hi Bruce, I checked, and each group is set to Individual Messages, which I normally receive with no problems.
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Also, the "missing" email message was shown in my message history for both groups, but I never received the email.?
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As I said, strange behavior. ??¡á?
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73 Bill WT0DX
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