Re: delay in receiving special notices?

#46562

I posted a message today at 3:33pm. I can see it in groups.io and received it in my protonmail but it has not shown up for anyone with a comcast account. Last time there was a delay that appears simiiar to this,? it took comcast about a day to send in message. will check on gmail members.
Carole Plumb

delay in receiving special notices?

#46561

Has anyone noticed a delay in receiving special notices today?? It is posting on the site but no email is being received.

Linda Perry

Re: block a sender across multiple groups?

Glenn Glazer

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On 03/11/2024 08:39, Andy Wedge wrote:

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 03:32 PM, Timothy Stowell wrote:

Is there a way to block a sender across multiple groups?
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I have a vendor of tiny bicycles spamming?several groups, then they move on to other groups I as list manager for.

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It would be nice if such could be done for such an address.

You can ban someone as described in the Owner's Manual.? If your groups have restricted membership you can also choose whether to allow posts from members or not. Posts from non-members will be held for moderation so you can filter them out that way.? This is also covered in the Owner's Manual.? Each group is a separate entity so you need to apply changes to each one.

Regards
Andy

I would support multigroup bans if and only if the multiple groups were limited to those run by the same admin. What I would very much not want to see is admins having the ability to ban people from groups they do not administer.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: block a sender across multiple groups?

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On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 03:32 PM, Timothy Stowell wrote:

Is there a way to block a sender across multiple groups?
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I have a vendor of tiny bicycles spamming?several groups, then they move on to other groups I as list manager for.

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It would be nice if such could be done for such an address.

You can ban someone as described in the Owner's Manual.? If your groups have restricted membership you can also choose whether to allow posts from non-members or not. Posts from non-members will be held for moderation so you can filter them out that way.? This is also covered in the Owner's Manual.? Each group is a separate entity so you need to apply changes to each one.

Regards
Andy

block a sender across multiple groups?

#46558

Is there a way to block a sender across multiple groups?

I have a vendor of tiny bicycles spamming?several groups, then they move on to other groups I as list manager for.

It would be nice if such could be done for such an address.

Tim Stowell

Re: sent mail coming back

#46557

I am a gmail user and have not received duplicates as described

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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On 10/03/2024 10:23, Jackie Preval via groups.io wrote:
The same thing is happening to me every message or reply I make comes twice a bit annoying. Wondered if happening to others. I'm a gmail user too so wonder if happening to others

Re: sent mail coming back

#46556

I have posted this as an issue in the [beta] group but it wont be approved (or not!) for distribution until the sun rises in Mark's timezone.

Malcolm.

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On 10 March 2024 10:23:19 (+00:00), Jackie Preval via groups.io wrote:

The same thing is happening to me every message or reply I make comes twice a bit annoying. Wondered if happening to others. I'm a gmail user too so wonder if happening to others?

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Re: sent mail coming back

#46555

The same thing is happening to me every message or reply I make comes twice a bit annoying. Wondered if happening to others. I'm a gmail user too so wonder if happening to others?

Re: My account keeps on bouncing

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On 2024-03-09 18:44, John Podgorski via groups.io wrote:

My account keeps on bouncing.

I received an email about a month ago, with a link to unbounce my account.

But it keeps reoccurring.

Click on your account icon (upper right of the blue Groups.io ribbon) then Settings and Bounces, it should list the reasons for getting bounced, see what those are, I'm also curious as Gmail doesn't bounce often.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: My account keeps on bouncing

#46553

As a volunteer moderator of this peer-to-peer help group, I tried to look at your account. However a surprise to me - you are using Gmail and that doesn't often bounce. And no activity except joining and this message.

Have you got two accounts now? You just joined GMF earlier this evening.

Frances
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My account keeps on bouncing

#46552

My account keeps on bouncing.

I received an email about a month ago, with a link to unbounce my account.

But it keeps reoccurring.

I have reused this link several times and got the emails posted.

I would like a proper fix though !

Advice appreciated.

Re: Files upload notification

#46551

Thanks for your explanation Andy. I am sure it is working as designed. Previously I did not receive a notice when I uploaded a file but I was not aware of the email delivery history option for individual members. All is OK. Thanks.
John

Re: sent mail coming back

Glenn Glazer

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On 03/09/2024 11:51, Christos Psarras wrote:

Now I guess most people don't mind this subtle distinction and that's fine,

Correct. For me it is a distinction without a difference.

but personally, since GIO is an email-based ecosystem primarily, even if I have the copy of what I sent I also I want to get a copy of what GIO sent out and others got, I've caught different types of (both admin and regular member and both test and production) errors or problems that way which I would have more than likely missed otherwise. Think of it as "post-release QA", the Sent folder copy is the book manuscript you supplied to the publisher, and the Inbox folder copy the published book of yours.

For the few cases where I think this may be an issue, I can always visit the website to see the outbound version. Getting a copy of every single email I send is, IMO, overkill for this.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: sent mail coming back

#46549

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I've added it as an attachment instead of inline, perhaps that will help.

It does help as and attachments in cases like this are preferred as it gives us the image at 100% right there in local/online message view without having to save it first or copy & paste and view outside the email client or online view.? When an image is inserted inline GIO will resize it to display only 640x480. (IIRC)

My question would be why wouldn't you want a copy of your own posts?

Because I already have one, in my sent box, as others described earlier.

Technically this is not 100% accurate.? What you do have is a copy of what you sent to the group or how it looks to you, but not a copy of what GIO sent out on your behalf and others received and how it looks to them, and as such it may not be exactly the same and I'm not referring to just the added footers, group tag, etc. Case in point your initial Tbird filter post, it looks fine in your Sent folder but that's not 100% the same as GIO sent it out and viewed by members in their email client or online.

Now I guess most people don't mind this subtle distinction and that's fine, but personally, since GIO is an email-based ecosystem primarily, even if I have the copy of what I sent I also I want to get a copy of what GIO sent out and others got, I've caught different types of (both admin and regular member and both test and production) errors or problems that way which I would have more than likely missed otherwise. Think of it as "post-release QA", the Sent folder copy is the book manuscript you supplied to the publisher, and the Inbox folder copy the published book of yours.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: sent mail coming back

Glenn Glazer

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On 03/09/2024 10:22, Nivard Ovington wrote:

My question would be why wouldn't you want a copy of your own posts?

Because I already have one, in my sent box, as others described earlier.

Your black screen print is unreadable for me at least

I've added it as an attachment instead of inline, perhaps that will help.

Not that I would want to stop receiving copies of my own posts anyway so its not a problem to me

Your empathy is overwhelming.

Best,

Glenn

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 09/03/2024 17:59, Glenn Glazer wrote:

FWIW, for those who use Thunderbird, this works:

Best,

Glenn

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Re: sent mail coming back

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My question would be why wouldn't you want a copy of your own posts?

Your black screen print is unreadable for me at least

Not that I would want to stop receiving copies of my own posts anyway so its not a problem to me

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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On 09/03/2024 17:59, Glenn Glazer wrote:
FWIW, for those who use Thunderbird, this works:
Best,
Glenn

Re: sent mail coming back

Glenn Glazer

#46546

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FWIW, for those who use Thunderbird, this works:

Best,

Glenn

On 03/09/2024 09:33, Glenn Glazer wrote:

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Thanks, Bruce and Malcolm.

I'll think about writing a filter on my side.

Best,

Glenn

On 03/09/2024 09:05, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.
Probably relates to the DMARC change that happened on Feb 1.??

If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
I'm not sure that you can.

Previously, GMail users could sometimes avoid getting copies of their own messages by?UNchecking the box found at the bottom their account Preferences page:??/account?page=prefs? ?With the From line now being rewritten due to DMARC, I doubt it matters anymore.
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Bruce

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Re: sent mail coming back

Glenn Glazer

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Thanks, Bruce and Malcolm.

I'll think about writing a filter on my side.

Best,

Glenn

On 03/09/2024 09:05, Bruce Bowman wrote:

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On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.
Probably relates to the DMARC change that happened on Feb 1.??

If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?
I'm not sure that you can.

Previously, GMail users could sometimes avoid getting copies of their own messages by?UNchecking the box found at the bottom their account Preferences page:??/account?page=prefs? ?With the From line now being rewritten due to DMARC, I doubt it matters anymore.
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Regards,
Bruce

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Re: sent mail coming back

#46544

My guess would be the change - see??- on 5 March to rewrite date headers on passage through groups.io

Historically, and without evasive action, gmail does not show your own messages because it think you already have a copy in your mail database (in the Sent box). The date change may break this behaviour so that gmail shows its arrival.

Malcolm, maybe barking up the wrong tree.

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On 09 March 2024 16:59:35 (+00:00), Glenn Glazer wrote:

Edit: this one did come back to me, so admin status is unrelated.

Best,

Glenn

On 03/09/2024 08:42, Glenn Glazer via groups.io wrote:

Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.

The pattern seems to be groups that I am an admin of. It does not happen, for example, with this group.

If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?

Best,

Glenn

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Re: sent mail coming back

#46543

On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Glazer wrote:

Maybe I missed a memo or a changelog, but I've started (as a gmail) user getting copies back of messages I send to the group.

Probably relates to the DMARC change that happened on Feb 1.??

If this is intentional, is there a way to turn it off?

I'm not sure that you can.

Previously, GMail users could sometimes avoid getting copies of their own messages by?UNchecking the box found at the bottom their account Preferences page:??/account?page=prefs? ?With the From line now being rewritten due to DMARC, I doubt it matters anymore.
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Regards,
Bruce

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