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Re: Two Levels of moderation
Duane,
This is a bit misleading because it doesn't generate a pendingBut it does generate "Subscription Approval Needed" notices to the moderators of the primary group. I received no notifications relating to the subgroup. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Two Levels of moderation
Follow up:? If someone that's not a member of the main group finds the subgroup and clicks on the Join button, they'll see the message, "You cannot subscribe to this subgroup until your subscription to the parent group is approved."? This is a bit misleading because it doesn't generate a pending subscription in the main group.? (I'll report this to support.)
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Re: Two Levels of moderation
A person can't join a subgroup unless they're a member of the main group.? Once they're in the main group, they could join the subgroup and post immediately without the spam control, but would need to post twice on the main group (based on your previous comment.)
You can change the Privacy > Visibility setting for the subgroup so that it's not listed on the main group Home page.? I don't think non-members of the main group see it though. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWe have one dbase in particular that I¡¯m usually the only one that keeps it up to date, but I¡¯ve always trusted our members not to mess things up as they edit their information. This dbase holds basic information about our members and their sailboats (We all have the same kind of boats), but over time members sell their boats to other people and leave the group, and usually the new owner becomes a new member of the group. When this happens then some information needs to be updated, and over time even this information needs to be updated again. Updating never really ends unless the boat is destroyed, and when this happens the information becomes archival. ? Back at YG each member had a row of information about themselves they could edit if they wanted, but by default I was the one that generally really did it. I don¡¯t remember having these dbase options at YG, so this is a learning thing for me on how it will work at Groups.io. Since before the transfer to Groups.io some members had left our Y group, but their information stayed so it could be edited in the future as circumstances changed. After the transfer to Groups.io more members dropped out, but new members have joined the group, and some of these members are new owners of boats in the dbase. From what you¡¯ve said it sounds like only I will be able to edit many rows of information, because the original owners that entered the information are no longer members, and new owners will not be edit the information. So maybe I should just let the members view the information, and leave it up to moderators to edit the rows as new information becomes available. ? Don ? |
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Re: re delayed message
Win,
I sent a message to my group 12 hours ago, it has not yet appeared onCould it be in the group's Pending list? How can I find out what caused the delay...If it still hasn't arrived, check the group's activity log around the time it was sent. It might say there if it was rejected for any reason. If it does arrive, you may be able to parse the Received header fields to find the "hop" at which the delay occurred. In a case like this it might show the hop from your email service to Groups.io's inbound server was the source of the delay. But that still doesn't tell you why. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?
If it will help any, I found how to do the Replace using the Mac TextEdit program -
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Re: Two Levels of moderation
They're independent.? They could meet either criteria for that group or subgroup without meeting both.? As you have it set, they'd need 2 approved posts in each group.? Note that you don't have to choose a Spam Control on a subgroup only the main group.
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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?
Gina,
applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?Windows user here. I don't know applescript, but if you have access to Excel I have a formula to extract just the last name (I faced the same sortability issue with my PTA group's roster): =MID(B2,SEARCH(" ",B2,1)+1,20) In the above, B2 should be replaced by the cell on this row containing the combined display name. This formula would be placed in every row of the list (except the first), in a new column. With some limitation: It just takes everything after the first space as the Last Name. In some cases I had to manually fix the result before sorting and printing. I didn't bother to make a first name field, I only needed to sort by last name. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?
Chats are like temporary subgroups.? Most folks use them as an IRC for a discussion that doesn't need to be on the group.? Anything posted there isn't sent out as an email.? Only one of my groups has them enabled because that's the only one that has a use for them.
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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?
I think the easiest way would be to use a simple text editor that has a Replace function to do it manually.? (I'm not familiar with Mac, but Windows has Notepad that will do it.)? Open the file with the text editor, delete the first line, use the Replace function as you said to replace all of the spaces with the "," and save the file.? Then load it into a spreadsheet and do your sorting/printing.
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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases
If you're loading information into the database, then you'll need to set Edit Rows to Members for them to be able to change it, but they will be able to edit any row.? They can only edit rows they've entered with the 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner' choice.? I think you may have an in-between situation that isn't fully covered.
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I was looking through just 'some' of the Site Updates Mark reports on, and I don't know how he finds enough hours in a day to keep this site running. Between fixing Bugs, Changes,?SYSADMIN, New, Internals, Security, Beta, and anything else involved in keeping Groups.io running, not including all the Transfers of groups to here, makes me glad I'm retired! From what I've read, it appears he does this all by himself too. If Mark is making any money doing this, he surely deserves it.
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applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?
applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields? Mac user here. ? I manage a 100+ member group.? We have monthly meetings and I use the members ¡°download¡± option to generate a sign in sheet for the meetings. ? ? We require members to use their real first and last names as their Display Name.? The problem is, this is one field and when I load the csv file into numbers it puts the first and last name in one field.? I can then only sort by first name.? This is causing chaos at our sign in tables!!! ? Here is a sample of the csv file?(I've bolded what I want to change) ? "Email","Display Name","Username","Joined","Status(0=Normal,1=Pending,2=Banned)","Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)","Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Digest,2=Special,3=None)","Message Selection(0=All,1=Follow Only,2=Follow Only And First)","Auto Follow Replies","Mod Status(0=None,1=Moderator,2=Owner)","User Status(0=Not Confirmed,1=Confirmed,2=Inactive,3=Bouncing,4=Bounced)" "xxx@...¡±,¡±Jane Doe¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1 "xxx@...¡±,¡±Rodger Rabbit¡±,¡±±·¾±²µ³ó³Ù°¿·É±ô²õ","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,2,1 "xxx@...","Thomas Jefferson¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/10/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1 ? If I can get the csv file to look like this, I can sort by last name in numbers: ? "Email","Display Name","Username","Joined","Status(0=Normal,1=Pending,2=Banned)","Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)","Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Digest,2=Special,3=None)","Message Selection(0=All,1=Follow Only,2=Follow Only And First)","Auto Follow Replies","Mod Status(0=None,1=Moderator,2=Owner)","User Status(0=Not Confirmed,1=Confirmed,2=Inactive,3=Bouncing,4=Bounced)" "xxx@...¡±,¡±´³²¹²Ô±ð¡±,¡±¶Ù´Ç±ð¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1 "xxx@...¡±,¡±¸é´Ç»å²µ±ð°ù¡±,¡±¸é²¹²ú²ú¾±t¡±,¡±±·¾±²µ³ó³Ù°¿·É±ô²õ","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,2,1 "xxx@...","°Õ³ó´Ç³¾²¹²õ¡±,¡±´³±ð´Ú´Ú±ð°ù²õ´Ç²Ô¡°,¡±¡±,¡±8/10/2017",0,0,0,0,´Ú²¹±ô²õ±ð,0,1 ? ? I know how to fix this.? Write a script to do the following: ? ignore the first row. for every subsequent row change all spaces to ¡°,¡±? . ? BUT, I¡¯ve never written a script!? I¡¯ve poked around and figured our it will be in AppleScript using the Script Editor.? I¡¯ve found some tutorials (did an easy one) and think with time (lot¡¯s of time!) I could work it out BUT if someone has already done this could you share your code with me? ? Regards, Gina |
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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDuane, ? Thanks a lot for that information. I made those changes, and we¡¯ll dee how that works. If it doesn¡¯t work right, I can always reload my backup to the dbase. ? Don ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane ? On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 04:33 pm, Don wrote:
Looks like you're nearly there.? I think you'll want to change that to Add Rows=Members so each member can fill in a row (or more).? Then you'll change Edit Rows to 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner'.? That would allow each member to change their row(s), but no others.? Allowing Members to edit rows will allow them to edit any row, not just theirs. |
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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 07:00 pm, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
I see messages themselves are not counted toward the storage limit, but it appears Chats are. Chats are no different than messages.? I don't see anything saying otherwise? Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list |
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