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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

Two most common ones, internet provider don't like it ,OR, the person receiving, assume spam and mark as such,?


On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 6:02 PM Bruce Bowman <bowman46118@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 06:11 PM, Califdan wrote:
...if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.
I agree it appears odd on the surface, but in fact it makes total sense. By marking a legitimate mailing list message as spam, you've essentially told Yahoo that you don't want receive any more "messages like this." Yahoo in turn informs , who dutifully complies with the request and removes you.

See??for more details.

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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 06:11 PM, Califdan wrote:
...if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.
I agree it appears odd on the surface, but in fact it makes total sense. By marking a legitimate mailing list message as spam, you've essentially told Yahoo that you don't want receive any more "messages like this." Yahoo in turn informs groups.io, who dutifully complies with the request and removes you.

See??for more details.

Regards,
Bruce

Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual


Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

Califdan,

The last line in Christos' note is the most important because if the non-spam is just moved to in box, the email system will continue to mark any other emails as spam until it is "Taught" that they are not spam. This may take a few iterations depending on how many were marked as spam.

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On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 06:12:30 PM EDT, Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:


The majority of online email providers (including Yahoo) have the Delete and Spam/Junk button right next to each other so it's easy for someone to accidentally hit the latter when they meant to just delete the message.? So make sure to tell that person to check their spam/junk folder and if they see a message from groups.io there to mark it as not-spam/junk.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

Thanks all for your guaidance.??

I did, in fact look that the Onwers Manual, as well as the Members Manual, but the sections on handling spam didn't answer my quesitons.

thanks again

Dan


Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 05:11 PM, Califdan wrote:
if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.
Yes, but that's the way many email services are set up.? Some, I think Yahoo is one, even tell members to mark things as spam if it's from a list they don't want to be on any more.

Duane
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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

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The majority of online email providers (including Yahoo) have the Delete and Spam/Junk button right next to each other so it's easy for someone to accidentally hit the latter when they meant to just delete the message.? So make sure to tell that person to check their spam/junk folder and if they see a message from groups.io there to mark it as not-spam/junk.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

Califdan,

The person who reported it as spam may not know that their email client marked it as spam and the marking as spam may not have been in software in their PC.?

Their ISP may have been the culprit here and will need to be the one to remove the filter which marked it as spam. (I also do not see anything spam-like if the message.)?

Duane is spot on with; "Lots of detailed information can be found in the?Owners Manual?and?Members Manual."

Put

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On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 04:56:14 PM EDT, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:


On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 03:43 PM, Califdan wrote:
I'm very confused here.? Who posted the culprit message?? Who reported it as SPAM?? and who was removed from the group.?
Someone (you) posted the message, the person that received it marked it as spam, and they were removed from the group.? (Note that they marked it as spam, not that it necessarily was.)? They would have received a followup email letting them know and there's a link in it to resume membership.? If they did that before you looked, they'd still show as a member.? All covered in the site FAQ.

Duane
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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

Thanks Duane.? ?

Sorry to be poorly informed, but if I understand you correctly, if someone sees something they think is SPAM and clicks a button to that effect, they (not the spammer) get's removed?? If that's the case it sure sounds odd to me.

Dan


Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 03:56 PM, Duane wrote:
Someone (you) posted the message
Sorry, it was Sanja that posted it.

Duane
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Re: Member removed due to SPAM

 

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 03:43 PM, Califdan wrote:
I'm very confused here.? Who posted the culprit message?? Who reported it as SPAM?? and who was removed from the group.?
Someone (you) posted the message, the person that received it marked it as spam, and they were removed from the group.? (Note that they marked it as spam, not that it necessarily was.)? They would have received a followup email letting them know and there's a link in it to resume membership.? If they did that before you looked, they'd still show as a member.? All covered in the site FAQ.

Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


Member removed due to SPAM

 

Hi,? I recieved an email that a member of my group was removed from the group due to SPAM.? However, the email I got referenced? a message with title "hello and Introduction" which is my welciome message to new members.?
Here's the email I got....

This is to notify you that wolfganggries@... has been unsubscribed from your group [email protected] because message Hello and introduction! was marked as spam. Note that this may have been done by their email service provider, not by the individual member personally. They've been given a link that lets them quickly resubscribe, in case this was an error.

If you have any questions, please visit our help center.

When I checked the "activity" in the group,? I see is this......



When I look at message #1788, (below) there is noting SPAM like in it and the Poster is not the person mentioned in the emial I got.



I'm very confused here.? Who posted the culprit message?? Who reported it as SPAM?? and who was removed from the group.?

the "Wolfgang...." email does not show up in my members list
"Sanja Kelly" still shows up as a member


Re: Thread Reply: @ sign being replaced by an = sign

 

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:34 PM, Memo Saenz wrote:
I have had a few members' email addresses have the "@" sign replaced by an "=" sign.
That's normal for anyone with an email address on a service that uses DMARC.? It also adds "via groups.io" as you can see.? Using the normal reply button in the email avoids this because the Reply-To: header has the real email address.

Duane
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Thread Reply: @ sign being replaced by an = sign

 

Hello,

I have had a few members' email addresses have the "@" sign replaced by an "=" sign. It has happened to various domains (yahoo, hotmail, gmail, etc).?

A thread has been going on for a few weeks, and then randomly, a member sends a reply, and a bounce back email states that it is undeliverable and reveals the member's address in the error message as having an = sign rather than an @ sign. (e.g., username=yahoo.com)

The reply address displayed in the reply email is:?"User Name - Title via groups.io" <username@...>

DELIVERY REPORT
Reporting-MTA: dns; relay.mailchannels.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: C2EDDC19CF
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; admin@...
Arrival-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 14:25:05 +0000 (UTC)
?
Final-Recipient: rfc822; username @...
Original-Recipient: rfc822;?username @...
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; lb02.groups.io
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 510 The group 'username=yahoo.com' does not exist

NB: I replaced the user's name with username and the admin with domain for privacy.
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Re: Database Row Import

 

On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:46 PM, Richard Heyman wrote:
Is there a way to import value for a multi-select field. Only importing first value.
Could you elaborate a bit?? I'm not quite understanding what you're asking.
?
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Re: Automatic Delayed Open/Close of Poll

 

On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 06:19 PM, Marilyn Owen wrote:
Therefore, only one of the myriad groups appears to want the feature.
Actually, there are at least two for automatic closing.? 7 years ago.? It was even added to the , back when Mark was using that as a note pad.

Duane
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Re: Ampersand

 

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I haven't tried it and I don't know, but in some other situations as in coding when setting the caption or label for a control, if one is adding a single & and it doesn't show or it shows up as an underline, usually adding it inline twice as in && will fix that.

Cheers,
Christos


On 2023-07-30 13:51, Richard Heyman via groups.io wrote:

What is the correct way to have an ampersand appear in a data field name, prompt, response, or content?



Re: Automatic Delayed Open/Close of Poll

 

I think I will not bother adding this to the earlier request, because that request was from the previous owner of my group. Therefore, only one of the myriad groups appears to want the feature. Thank you for the the response.

Marilyn


Database Row Import

 

Is there a way to import value for a multi-select field. Only importing first value.


Ampersand

 

What is the correct way to have an ampersand appear in a data field name, prompt, response, or content?