Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

I will try again. Possibly I did something wrong.

-P.?

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023, 5:49 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 04:42 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:

when I set the tag field to blank, then update, the default?tag reappears
You must have done something wrong.? I can also set it to blank on my test group.

Duane
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44025

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 04:42 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:

when I set the tag field to blank, then update, the default?tag reappears

You must have done something wrong.? I can also set it to blank on my test group.

Duane
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44024

As I already said, when I set the tag field to blank, then update, the default?tag reappears.

However, I've now set the tag field to a single blank, and that is accepted. It is good enough.

-P.

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On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 5:23?PM Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:

On 2023-06-07 15:12, Peter S. Shenkin via wrote:

Be able to get rid of the tag. For my group, it?is totally unneeded. My group already sends out email as from "Peter Shenkin Music", so the tag is redundant.?

You can get rid of the tag by setting it to blank, you must have forgotten to click on Update when you removed the tag text, I just tested it and you don't have to put a space, you can fully delete the tag text, but you must click on Update before it takes effect.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44023

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On 2023-06-07 15:12, Peter S. Shenkin via groups.io wrote:

Be able to get rid of the tag. For my group, it?is totally unneeded. My group already sends out email as from "Peter Shenkin Music", so the tag is redundant.?

You can get rid of the tag by setting it to blank, you must have forgotten to click on Update when you removed the tag text, I just tested it and you don't have to put a space, you can fully delete the tag text, but you must click on Update before it takes effect.

Cheers,
Christos

Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44022

I don't mean seeing the From: in the original unformatted email. I mean the name associated with the email address that comes from the From: and is shown in the header of the email in every email client I have used. (Not that I"ve used them all.)?

Example, "Peter Shenkin Music" in the following, taken from my gmail client:

Peter Shenkin Music?shenkin+music@...???

I had the tag set to "Peter Shenkin Music: ", so in the index of incoming mail, the phrase appeared twice, once in the Sender column?and once in the Subject column.?See also the screen shot in the?attachment. Even the default setting of "[peter-shenkin-gigs]" was redundant and annoying.

I now have the tag set to a single space, so I expect this workaround will suffice to remove the redundancy.

-P.

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 4:32?PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 02:20 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:

Be able to get rid of the tag.
I have folks in some of my groups that are in 20 or more groups.? That 'tag' can be a lifesaver when they're getting loads of messages daily.? Some even set up rules using it so they have a folder for each group.? Not everyone has immediate access to the From: field, depending on how they've set up their email program/interface.? To me, that is too "in your face", so I don't show it.

Duane
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Re: Not receiving notices of messages posted to group #bouncedemails

#44021

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 03:06 PM, Cyndi Law wrote:

mail.georgedell.com: 550 "JunkMail rejected - web01.groups.io (mail01.groups.io) [66.175.222.12]:53336 is in an RBL on rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked - see

Is it groups.io IP address or my account with groups.io that is blacklisted?

mail.georgedell.com is using spamcop.? Spamcop is blocking at least one of groups.io email servers, 66.175.222.12.? They seem to do this on a regular basis, without any obvious justification.? Only thing I can think of is that people that are using it are marking messages as spam, resulting in the block.

Duane
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44020

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 02:20 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:

Be able to get rid of the tag.

I have folks in some of my groups that are in 20 or more groups.? That 'tag' can be a lifesaver when they're getting loads of messages daily.? Some even set up rules using it so they have a folder for each group.? Not everyone has immediate access to the From: field, depending on how they've set up their email program/interface.? To me, that is too "in your face", so I don't show it.

Duane
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Re: Uncertain future for .io domains?

#44019

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 02:08 PM, b&p wrote:

repatriate our individual groups' files to us

A group owner can do that at any time, just export everything.? May not be a bad idea to do it at least once per year.

Duane
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Not receiving notices of messages posted to group #bouncedemails

#44018

Please Help! I am the owner of our group. I have stopped receiving notices unless they are addressed to me directly. My account is set to receive single posts, so I should be receiving all of the 50+ posts a month from our group. I am concerned from that members maybe experiencing this but not be aware of it. They may think the group is dying, which it is not.

Recently, my receiving notifications of posts had slowed, with increasing lag time between posting the message and notification of it being posted in my email. Sometimes taking hours after the original post even if I was the OP creating the new topic.
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I checked my email delivery history inside groups.io and found this:

mail.georgedell.com: 550 "JunkMail rejected - web01.groups.io (mail01.groups.io) [66.175.222.12]:53336 is in an RBL on rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked - see

Is it groups.io IP address or my account with groups.io that is blacklisted? Or something else?

Here is what spamcop.net reports:?
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66.175.222.12 listed in bl.spamcop.net (127.0.0.2)

If there are no reports of ongoing objectionable email from this system it will be delisted automatically in approximately 18 hours.

System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past week (spam traps are secret, no reports or evidence are provided by SpamCop)

Express-delisting is not available
In the past 77.9 days, it has been listed 13 times for a total of 11.9 days If you are the administrator of this system and you are sure this listing is erroneous, you may request that we review the listing. Because everyone wants to dispute their listing, regardless of merit, we reserve the right to ignore meritless disputes.

Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44017

Thanks for the response. I'll check out those links.

I am not trying to hide the identity in outgoing emails. I would in fact mention it in my personal welcome message, but I'd like the message to be phrased in the first person by me. I suspect your links will allow me to do that.

I just tried updating the tag field to make it not empty, but rather contain a single space character. The Update functionality then accepted it. So this might be an adequate solution to that problem.

-P.

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On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 3:28?PM Frances <frances@...> wrote:

Many of the notices are editable by you. You can also use all the formatting tools - colour, fonts, etc. to make your message stand out amidst the boilerplate that needs to be there to meet regulations.

For example -?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/welcome-notice?single=true
and
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/direct-add-notice?single=true

And you can take out the Groups.io identity if you are prepared to go to Enterprise price point.?

Frances

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Re: Uncertain future for .io domains?

#44016

I'm not worried. I understood that Mark started e-Groups (been with it since
then) and sold to Yahoo. Ran Yahoo until they were sold to AOL and the started
Groups.io and transferred our groups over after making him a moderator with full
privileges.
(Corrections encouraged)
Arno

Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44015

Many of the notices are editable by you. You can also use all the formatting tools - colour, fonts, etc. to make your message stand out amidst the boilerplate that needs to be there to meet regulations.

For example -?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/welcome-notice?single=true
and
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/direct-add-notice?single=true

And you can take out the Groups.io identity if you are prepared to go to Enterprise price point.?

Frances

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Allow groups.io messages to be more personal

#44014

I recently started a group ([email protected]) to send announcements about my gigs to interested parties. It's a "premium" group to which I've added a bunch of my friends. Several have?opted out because the canned welcome notice and a few other things make?the announcement group?look and sound so much like some kind of social-media or formal work-related site. I've been at pains to explain to some of my friends that neither the case, but I'd not have had to do this if the welcome message and other features could have been personalized.?

The way I had been sending notices out was to simply send them from my personal email, adding the long list of recipients to the bcc: field each time. This is laborious and error prone, so I liked the idea of because of easy unsubscription and maintenance. Based on changes that Mark was able to make (see my recent postings to the beta group), I now have my group behaving the same way as my emails in most or all essentials; viz.:

Only moderators and owners can post new topics.
Regular users can respond to posted topics.
Responses made to posted topics go directly to the author of the post.

So what's missing? The personal touch!

Custom welcome message. I see that GMF has one, but I didn't see any way I could create my own. Is there a way I can do this for?my?group?

The language in the canned Welcome message is offputting for a group such as mine. Language like "You have been added by the?Groups.io?Team to?Peter Shenkin Gigs."?has the air of officialese, especially since approximately nobody who gets the welcome based on my "direct adds" is likely to have ever heard of , and as soon as they read it they think it is spam.
I would instead replace the whole message with something that I have written myself, as myself, using language like "I have added you to this mailing list thinking you might be interested", and so on. After all, it's really I, not , who was responsible for adding the user.

Be able to get rid of the tag. For my group, it?is totally unneeded. My group already sends out email as from "Peter Shenkin Music", so the tag is redundant.?

I tried setting the tag to an empty field in Settings, but this just restored?the default [peter-shenkin-gigs] tag. I replaced it with "Peter Shenkin Music: ", which is more user friendly, but still redundant, because that information is already in the From: of the email, which is immediately?visible to the user.
I've looked at what other musicians do in their gig announcements. None of them include a tag in the Subject:. All of them have sufficient identification in the From: address to avoid confusion.
This one could be solved by simply?allowing an empty tag field to do what it says: eliminate the tag!?

None of the suggestions I am making would be appropriate for all groups; I am a member of a group where I find the tag inoffensive, but that group is a discussion group and people understand from the start that some 3rd-party infrastructure is involved.

I would like to make my group look and feel as personal as the emails I used to send out, and IMO, there ought to be a way to do that.

If anyone has workarounds for replacing the entire Welcome message with a personalized one or for eliminating the tag, I'd appreciate it.

Thank you,
-P.?

Re: Uncertain future for .io domains?

b&p

#44013

I read the article, and perhaps it will turn out to be a tempest in a teacup. Yes, it's an ethical issue to a point, but there are a lot more practical?things that I think the world needs to deal with first. If Groups.io is able to continue as it is, then I think we should. If not, I will trust the group owners to either come up with something or repatriate our individual groups' files to us.

Just my two cents - or two pence, depending on where you are....

Paul

co-owner of a private

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On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 12:14?PM Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:

A member of my group contacted me about this article, which he defined an ethical issue, expressing his worries about the possible future of .io domains.?

I don't know if this has been already discussed here.
Any thoughts?

Marina

Re: Uncertain future for .io domains?

#44012

The article is from 2019 when there was some issues about post-Brexit (maybe).

See this newer article:

See disadvantages and conclusion.

The Dominion .io used to be solely one of the country code TLDs, specifically for sites in the Indian Ocean. However, it is no longer country-specific, as Google recognizes it as a generic top-level domain, serving a much larger audience.

Frances

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Uncertain future for .io domains?

#44011

A member of my group contacted me about this article, which he defined an ethical issue, expressing his worries about the possible future of .io domains.?

I don't know if this has been already discussed here.
Any thoughts?

Marina

Re: Polls: change existing poll to allow multiple choices #poll

Philippe Laurent

#44010

Aha! Just noticed that 'More' button at the bottom of the poll.?

Many thanks for your assistance... still navigating the management UI as I recently inherited a group.

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On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 12:07?PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 10:34 AM, Philippe Laurent wrote:

change an existing poll with entries from a single choice (radio button) to multiple choice
Just go in and edit the poll, then Update.

Duane
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Re: Polls: change existing poll to allow multiple choices #poll

#44009

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 10:34 AM, Philippe Laurent wrote:

change an existing poll with entries from a single choice (radio button) to multiple choice

Just go in and edit the poll, then Update.

Duane
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Polls: change existing poll to allow multiple choices #poll

Philippe Laurent

#44008

I would like to be able to change an existing poll with entries from a single choice (radio button) to multiple choice.

Possible?

Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup #subgroup

#44007

On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 11:32 AM, stephanie j wright wrote:

both options say messages viewable only by sub-group

That's because you made the subgroup messages private when you created them.? Once made private to the subgroup, you can no longer make them visible to parent group members.? This is a sticky point for some.? Once a message archive is made private, it can't be made public later.? There should be a popup reminding you of this when you choose any private setting.

Duane
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