On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 07:24 PM, James Proffer wrote:

You could sort the members by delivery method and send you message to 20 members at a time.

If you opt for that method, you could also set your Items Per Page preference to 50 or 100 to minimize the work, /account?page=prefs

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I'm co-manager of a group with over 1100 members. Many members (hundreds) have not specified email delivery and we suspect that many are not aware of their membership.

Is it possible to send a bulk query email to all members that have Delivery = "No Email"?

Another criteria would exclude anyone who has logged into the site recently (i.e. based on a login timestamp).

I'm aware of Bulk Remove for doing the removal - I just need a way to create the list of email addresses.

Thanks!
????-Terry

You could sort the members by delivery method and send you message to 20 members at a time.? There may be a better method that I do not know.

I'm co-manager of a group with over 1100 members. Many members (hundreds) have not specified email delivery and we suspect that many are not aware of their membership.

Is it possible to send a bulk query email to all members that have Delivery = "No Email"?

Another criteria would exclude anyone who has logged into the site recently (i.e. based on a login timestamp).

I'm aware of Bulk Remove for doing the removal - I just need a way to create the list of email addresses.

Thanks!
-Terry

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:15 PM, Peter Cook wrote:

He is specifically giving a discount on the enterprise plan to non-profits.

From the Pricing page:
"If you are legally recognized as a non-profit organization, we offer a 50% discount on our Enterprise plan. When upgrading your group, select the non-profit discount. Also, please contact us so we can verify your non-profit status."

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On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

Attachments can be (a) Allowed (b) Bounced (c) Stripped (d) Moderated. Your current problem suggests that your "problem group" is set to Bounce.

I changed it from bounced to stripped and that worked. I have POP accounts, no Mime. I can’t find any settings that would produce attachments out of thin air.

Thank you for the article — I see the icons for encrypted but had no idea what they are. I’ve been using mail for 20+ years but they do keep adding things.

Sharon

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:39 PM, Russell Courtenay wrote:

Groups gives a break for ‘large nonprofits’

Mark did not use the term "large non-profits." He is specifically giving a discount on the enterprise plan to non-profits. (I assume he means 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(4), but that's not clear.)

Pete

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:49 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

...why isn’t it happening with all my groups?

You answered that yourself...

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:33 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

My messages are returned because the list doesn’t accept attachments. (italics added)

Many groups -- like GMF -- allow attachments.

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Bruce

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:49 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

How would I turn it off and why isn’t it happening with all my groups?

I don't use Apple Mail, but I found this on the web:???

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:49 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

How would I turn it off and why isn’t it happening with all my groups?

Oops; something sent a reply before it was finished. (Sorry)

The problem might be down to a difference in Settings > Message Formatting.

Attachments can be (a) Allowed (b) Bounced (c) Stripped (d) Moderated. Your current problem suggests that your "problem group" is set to Bounce.

Chris

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:49 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

How would I turn it off and why isn’t it happening with all my groups?

This might be down to a small difference in Settings > Message Formatting .

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 09:39 PM, Russell Courtenay wrote:

Groups gives a break for ‘large nonprofits’ indicating they have some value beyond profit, what about small nonprofits, are they of no value?

I think it is necessary to define what exactly is meant by "non - profit". A hobby - based group is almost certainly going to be "non - profit", but its value is limited to the adherents of the hobby. OTOH a group might have wide - scale humanitarian aid as its ethos; in that case there is a clear (even if only potential) benefit well outside just those who are members of the group.

Chris

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:33 PM, M K Ramadoss wrote:

For a member to pay 5cents annually should not be a great hardship.

It's 5 cents a month or 55 annually

and I assume that most listowners would consider paying the entire invoice themselves rather than chasing over a hundred subscribers for 55 cent each

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Sharon -- Your mail client is sending a digital signature (smime.p7s). This presents as an attachment.

Turn that off and your posts should go through.

Thank you,

How would I turn it off and why isn’t it happening with all my groups?

Sharon

Mod's note - same attachment to this email. I deleted it. Likely it is a file associated with encryption for a signature.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:39 PM, Russell Courtenay wrote:

Groups gives a break for ‘large nonprofits’ indicating they have some value beyond profit, what about small nonprofits, are they of no value?

I have several committee groups in Groups.io for my non-profit organization. I didn't ask for a discount, because free is even better. We don't want or need a high profile site with all the bells and whistles of the enterprise plan. We don't need our own branding, for example. I am grateful to be able to have these groups to make everything work better. I was lucky - an early adopter. And of course, anything you have now, you are protected as legacy enabled (i.e. grandfathered).

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:15 PM, Russell Courtenay wrote:

I appreciate that, but some things are more valuable than profitable, life isn’t always about ‘profit and loss’ sometimes it isn’t about ‘dreams and joy’, you know?

Russell, as the moderator noted on your post, the place to critique Mark's pricing is on the beta group.

However, as I said, based on my read of Mark's announcement - it is what it is.

Pete

Well Chris,
Groups gives a break for ‘large nonprofits’ indicating they have some value beyond profit, what about small nonprofits, are they of no value?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:15 PM, Russell Courtenay wrote:

I appreciate that, but some things are more valuable than profitable, life isn’t always about ‘profit and loss’ sometimes it isn’t about ‘dreams and joy’, you know?

That appears to be a suggestion that anything I want for "dreams and joy" should be given to me without costing me anything. I look forward to getting a free Ferrari or possibly a Lamborghini sometime...

Chris

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:33 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

I haven’t been able to send to one of my groups since Wednesday, possibly Tuesday. My messages are returned because the list doesn’t accept attachments. But there are no attachments on message.

Sharon -- Your mail client is sending a digital signature (smime.p7s). This presents as an attachment.

Turn that off and your posts should go through.

Regards,
Bruce

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I haven’t been able to send to one of my groups since Wednesday, possibly Tuesday. My messages are returned because the list doesn’t accept attachments. But there are no attachments on message.

I had originally replied to a messages so I opened a new messages and retyped it fresh. Same result.

I tried writing in TextEdit and had the same problem when I pasted it into a message.

Using MacBook Pro, OS 11.1, Apple Mail. The problem may have started when I installed the 11.1 update.

Anyone else having this problem or heard of it?

Sharon
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