I agree... Thunderbird is
REALLY playing up now... none of my message filters are working,
many emails won't open (especially the groups.io ones), the box
which comes up lower right to tell me how many and what emails
just arrived won't disappear.
I'll see if I can find anything via a Google search.
Win
On 30/10/2020 10:38 pm, George Miles ~
dicegeorge wrote:
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if
anyone knows how to raise this with the thunderbird developers
please give us a link
so we can all complain
and boost the bug up their to do list
George
On 30/10/2020 08:28, WBennett wrote:
Thanks for your reply... I already have
that selected in the Settings.
The Reply to Sender is my particular problem. I have the same
Thunderbird version number as mentioned in the Beta group query.
I use the Thunderbird "Reply" function to reply to the group,
but unless I know the email address of the sender or have it in
my address book, I have to go to my group's membership list to
get the address to be able to reply to the Sender.
I'm glad it isn't just me... lol.. I'll have to put up with it
till TB gets their act together...
Thanks again.
Win
On 30/10/2020 4:33 pm, Rick Mann wrote:
Yes - couple of members in my group have
experienced the same.? One said Hotmail didn't display the
footers.? I've just tried 'force HTML for all emails' in the
amdnin settings. Maybe this will help fix the issue?
Rick
*Sent:*?Friday, October 30, 2020 at 12:33 AM
*From:*?"WBennett" <del13piero@...>
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:*?[GMF] re footer in emails
I read all my messages in Thunderbird and for some reason
suddenly Reply to Sender and Reply to Group are not working...
all I get is a plain blank white screen which just sits there.
This happens with all messages in the folder where the mail is
streamed, no matter how old the message. This is also the case
in any of the groups.io groups that I am a member of.
If I read the emails on the webpage, I can reply from there,
just not from my mail program.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
Win
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if anyone knows how to raise this with the thunderbird developers
please give us a link
so we can all complain
and boost the bug up their to do list
George
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On 30/10/2020 08:28, WBennett wrote: Thanks for your reply... I already have that selected in the Settings.
The Reply to Sender is my particular problem. I have the same Thunderbird version number as mentioned in the Beta group query.
I use the Thunderbird "Reply" function to reply to the group, but unless I know the email address of the sender or have it in my address book, I have to go to my group's membership list to get the address to be able to reply to the Sender.
I'm glad it isn't just me... lol.. I'll have to put up with it till TB gets their act together...
Thanks again.
Win
On 30/10/2020 4:33 pm, Rick Mann wrote:
Yes - couple of members in my group have experienced the same.? One said Hotmail didn't display the footers.? I've just tried 'force HTML for all emails' in the amdnin settings. Maybe this will help fix the issue?
Rick
*Sent:*?Friday, October 30, 2020 at 12:33 AM
*From:*?"WBennett" <del13piero@...>
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:*?[GMF] re footer in emails
I read all my messages in Thunderbird and for some reason suddenly Reply to Sender and Reply to Group are not working... all I get is a plain blank white screen which just sits there. This happens with all messages in the folder where the mail is streamed, no matter how old the message. This is also the case in any of the groups.io groups that I am a member of.
If I read the emails on the webpage, I can reply from there, just not from my mail program.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
Win
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Legality of compiling a contact list from data that was collected for another purpose probably depends on privacy legislation in your country or state. Ethics - I reckon opt out systems that proliferate on the internet are the utimate in obnoxious rudeness. But inviting people to opt in who have previously expressed an interest in whatever it is, is a respectful practice. If anyone objects to you bothering them, don't argue. Apologise and let is pass.
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LM| We would like to clarify that there
| will be no changes to other Yahoo
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People are really complicated...
This disclaimer already was more
than clear in the original Yahoo
announcement.
DH| It wouldn't bother me if they did
| discontinue YM but so many seem to
| like it that I hope they continue
| offering it for their sake.
Forget it. This will not happen.
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Hello everyone
Do you know of a page or message thread that discusses the legal or ethical issues surrounding inviting all old members from a Yahoogroups group to a Groups.io group, without the specific consent of the Yahoogroups group owners?
I'm an ordinary member of a number of Yahoogroups groups that are all related to various related products of a certain software company. The groups are not "owned" by the software company.??The "owners" of these groups don't really care about their groups anymore (they'd rather the group just die a slow death and hope that people will start using Facebook Groups).? However, some people do want to "migrate" to Groups.io.? We have archives of the old messages which we would very much like to make available to members (though that is perhaps a separate issue), and I'm sure we'd be able to lay our hands on a sizeable number of old members' e-mail addresses by combing through old messages.? Who knows, perhaps some of the groups' owners will come around in the end and supply us with the official lists of e-mail addresses.
The traffic has gone down a bit over the years -- the past two years saw an average of only 50 messages per month, although they tend to come in bursts.
(I actually started this process a year ago (and so the relevant Groups.io group already exists, but is largely empty), but the new announcement from Yahoogroups seems to have kicked a few more people into action.)
Thanks
Samuel
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Thanks for your reply... I
already have that selected in the Settings.
The Reply to Sender is my particular problem. I have the same
Thunderbird version number as mentioned in the Beta group query.
I use the Thunderbird "Reply" function to reply to the group,
but unless I know the email address of the sender or have it in
my address book, I have to go to my group's membership list to
get the address to be able to reply to the Sender.
I'm glad it isn't just me... lol.. I'll have to put up with it
till TB gets their act together...
Thanks again.
Win
On 30/10/2020 4:33 pm, Rick Mann wrote:
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?
Yes - couple of members in my group have experienced the
same.? One said Hotmail didn't display the footers.? I've just
tried 'force HTML for all emails' in the amdnin settings.?
Maybe this will help fix the issue?
Rick
I read all my
messages in Thunderbird and for some reason
suddenly Reply to Sender and Reply to Group are
not working... all I get is a plain blank white
screen which just sits there. This happens with
all messages in the folder where the mail is
streamed, no matter how old the message. This is
also the case in any of the groups.io groups that
I am a member of.
If I read the emails on the webpage, I can reply
from there, just not from my mail program.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
Win
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?
Yes - couple of members in my group have experienced the same.? One said Hotmail didn't display the footers.? I've just tried 'force HTML for all emails' in the amdnin settings.? Maybe this will help fix the issue?
Rick
Sent:?Friday, October 30, 2020 at 12:33 AM
From:?"WBennett" <del13piero@...>
To:[email protected]
Subject:?[GMF] re footer in emails
I read all my messages in Thunderbird and for some reason suddenly Reply to Sender and Reply to Group are not working... all I get is a plain blank white screen which just sits there. This happens with all messages in the folder where the mail is streamed, no matter how old the message. This is also the case in any of the groups.io groups that I am a member of.
If I read the emails on the webpage, I can reply from there, just not from my mail program.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
Win
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 01:16 AM, WBennett wrote:
Is anyone else having this problem?
Apparently there's an issue with recent versions of TB, Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
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I read all my messages in
Thunderbird and for some reason suddenly Reply to Sender and
Reply to Group are not working... all I get is a plain blank
white screen which just sits there. This happens with all
messages in the folder where the mail is streamed, no matter how
old the message. This is also the case in any of the groups.io
groups that I am a member of.
If I read the emails on the webpage, I can reply from there,
just not from my mail program.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
Win
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:35 PM, Beth Minahan wrote:
Sooo... I'm guessing my only choice is to delete the group?
No.? If you've changed the Visibility setting to "Group listed in directory, private messages" or "Group not listed in directory, private messages", you don't need to do anything else.? The next time the robots try to scan your group, they'll realize they can't get to it.? All of the messages that have already been archived will eventually drop off.? Deleting them just speeds up the procedure a bit. It's not easy to migrate to a new group, especially messages. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
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Is the entire message archive now private? In other words, if you click on the link in the Google search results, is the page not found?
If so, you can request that Google remove specific search results, including the snippet that they show, using this tool (only one by one, unfortunately):
If you don't have too many hits on the old messages, this should work.
Bill
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On 29-Oct-20 7:34 PM, Beth Minahan via groups.io wrote: We just discovered that the originator of our */groups.io/*group, when we migrated from Yahoo to the new platform, did not check the all the privacy boxes ... and our messages can pop up on a google search...I've changed the settings and it appears all new messages are secure and not "google-able", but older ones still pop up. I have figured out that when I delete old messages (those before the tighter privacy settings)? they are no longer found on a google search.
It appears you cannot bulk delete messages.Even though it's a small group, it's been around for years (it started on Yahoo), so there are thousands of messages. I'd be at my desk deleting for a week.
Sooo... I'm guessing my only choice is to delete the group?? And that will delete all the messages?
I'm looking for a work-around, SO, here's my main question:
If I...
*1*) create a new group, with the strictest privacy, and
*2)* migrate the members and messages from my current group to the new group, and
*3)* THEN delete the old group...
Will all those messages (now in the new group) be protected because the privacy settings were strict before they were uploaded?? So far, that's the only solution that comes to mind.
Beth
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 07:35 PM, Beth Minahan wrote:
We just discovered that the originator of our groups.io group, when we migrated from Yahoo to the new platform, did not check the all the privacy boxes ... and our messages can pop up on a google search...I've changed the settings and it appears all new messages are secure and not "google-able", but older ones still pop up. I have figured out that when I delete old messages (those before the tighter privacy settings)? they are no longer found on a google search.
The best solution would be if your older messages were also restricted in your Groups.io group.?
There are workarounds for deleting messaged but it is slow.?
Frances
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GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page.
Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF.
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Beth Thinking about deleting group and starting over aspect of your question. Is your group a premium group? Do you plan to keep it as premium? Or if it is a basic group, when did your group create it? Anything legacy enabled? Frances -- GMF wiki ( /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home ) for help.?Search box at the top of each page. Check out the new groups.io Help Center ( /helpcenter ) Use your browser to search or download?the PDF.
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We just discovered that the originator of our groups.io group, when we migrated from Yahoo to the new platform, did not check the all the privacy boxes ... and our messages can pop up on a google search...I've changed the settings and it appears all new messages are secure and not "google-able", but older ones still pop up. I have figured out that when I delete old messages (those before the tighter privacy settings)? they are no longer found on a google search.
?
It appears you cannot bulk delete messages.?Even though it's a small group, it's been around for years (it started on Yahoo), so there are thousands of messages. I'd be at my desk deleting for a week.
?
Sooo... I'm guessing my only choice is to delete the group?? And that will delete all the messages?
?
I'm looking for a work-around, SO, here's my main question:
If I...
1) create a new group, with the strictest privacy, and
2) migrate the members and messages from my current group to the new group, and
3) THEN delete the old group...
Will all those messages (now in the new group) be protected because the privacy settings were strict before they were uploaded?? So far, that's the only solution that comes to mind.?
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Re: FILES AND PHOTOS SECTIONS
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 01:58 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
That's a pity, same storage size but no way to organise it beyond emails, a backwards step.
You can get a premium account. /static/compareOr others have suggested using other storage like Google Drive with a link to it.? Frances ? -- GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page.
Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF.
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Re: FILES AND PHOTOS SECTIONS
That's a pity, same storage size but no way to organise it beyond emails, a backwards step.
Thanks Duane
Regards?
Ron
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Re: FILES AND PHOTOS SECTIONS
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 12:45 PM, Ron Taylor wrote:
Is this a recent change in policy or have I missed something during set up?
That changed back at the end of August.? See /static/compareDuane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
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FILES AND PHOTOS SECTIONS
Hi,
I've just created a new free site and noticed that the Files and Photos sections are missing. Is this a recent change in policy or have I missed something during set up?
Regards
Ron Taylor
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We've had a couple of members attempting, at different times, to add, amend or delete their entry in a database and they can't! ?I¡¯m sure this feature used to exist (we¡¯re a Basic group and have been subscribed to Groups io for over two years).
They can, as shown below make a row Visible, Add a row, View a row, import rows and Export a table but not Edit or Delete a row.
In Admin Settings we have this:
Permissions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Members can view, moderators can create tables ?
Who can view and modify group databases
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How do I/we resolve this as it makes more work for Owners and Moderators!
-- Peter
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Samuel Murray
Duane
Frances