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Why use a Subgroup
Inspired by a recent conversation in beta@ I've created the bones of a new help page in our Wiki:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup My intent is to link it in the wiki home under "Best Practices for Group Management", but it isn't ready for prime time yet. I'm not going to have time to work on it much more today, so anyone with some inspiration is invited to put some flesh on those bones, or add some more bones. Shal |
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Re: Search messages by author/sender
If the posts are signed, then you can search on that name. The references to Trello are to the item on the TODO list to allow search by poster directly.
A combination of the name and a specific item may help narrow it down. For example, searching this group for "Nancy meanwhile" (without quotes) should find your post (and does, along with another only having "meanwhile" in it). Unfortunately, it seems to act as an OR, not an AND, so that may not be the best way. The search seems to work better on longer words, especially if they're not too common. Duane |
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Search messages by author/sender
Hi Everyone. In the group we are preparing to migrate, we have a lot of messages that we need to refer back to while answering questions, almost on a daily basis.? Wiki will come in handy in the long run but in the meanwhile I'm looking for a way to search archived messages by specific sender/author. In search here and on Beta, seeing only? reference to Trello. Thanks for any guidance. Nancy C |
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Re: member of two of my groups using different email addresses, can only get into one group
J,
I think (a) there's currently no way to actually delete a Groups.ioI believe that is true also. For testing purposes it would sometimes be handy if you could. ... and (b) if she ever wants to regain control over her content,There's the maybe. It depends on the details of how a subscription works. In Y!Groups I tested this once and discovered that leaving a group and re-joining it would not recover control of content; it was as if the new subscription were treated as a new person. Some years later what I thought was the same test produced the opposite answer. I don't know if Yahoo changed the implementation or if there was a difference between my two tests which I didn't notice. Long ago, it was common for ISP's to re-issue the same email address once it had been abandoned (the account closed or the bill not paid). So joe@... might not be the same person today as it was months or years earlier. In that circumstance one would not want the content to be reclaimed simply by joining the group again with the old email address. Yahoo Mail (infamously) began re-issuing abandoned email addresses a few years back as well. (An aside: I hope that Trello suggestion gets implemented in a way thatI certainly agree. I can't imagine how it could be implemented without requiring a very explicit action on your part - such as adding and verifying a second email address while signed in with the first. It is that verification step that proves you're the same you. Shal |
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Owl's been off the grid lately
Hey all,
Just wanted to let you know I've been dealing with a lot of real life stuff, so not only am I way behind in here, but also in Beta. So I haven't had a chance to work on putting any documentation together for the Beta Manual concept. I apologize, this is just how my life seems to go these days. I don't mean to promise things I can't do, I really intend to get them done...so I'll see if things calm down and I can still work on it soon. Thanks in advance for understanding. Brenda |
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Re: Easy instructions for new mdmbers to create passwords?
Hi I wrote these instructions - they could be edited. Accessing our group¡¯s site, archive and files: You know you can email to the group, but you can also go to the website to post, search, read any or all email (posts). ? You will need to log in. First, you must set up your password on Groups.io if you haven¡¯t done so yet. - Go to the group homepage e.g.?/g/GroupManagersForum/ - Put in your email address and click on Email me a link to log in - Go to your email and click on the link in the email sent to your email account (might be in your Junk mail by mistake) - On the homepage of our group (with a photo ---- <edit this>), click on your name in the top right corner. - Click on Profile - Add a password for future use (and remember it!) - You¡¯re all set. You only have to do this once. Frances |
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Re: Easy instructions for new mdmbers to create passwords?
J,
Once a member has joined and hasn't created a password right at theI would recommend that they go to any Groups.io page (its home page, or your group's home page) and click the Log In button/link at the top right. / On the "Please Log In" page click the "Forget your password?" link. Then provide their email address and click the "Email Link To Log In" button. They should watch their email (including Junk/Spam folders) for a log in email from Groups.io. Clicking through the link in that message will bring them to their Profile page where they can set a password. That link will also log them in to Groups.io for 30 days (or until they log out); so they may put off setting a password if they don't want to choose one now. They can repeat the above process anytime, so there's no hassle if they accidently log out or let it expire without having set a password. Or, They can forget about setting a password, and use the "Email me a link to log in" button whenever they need to Log In. Shal |
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Re: Send to Sender ( [beta] Proposal for hiding email addresses feature)
Vickie,
I decided to reply here in consideration of Mark's request in beta@ #6874 that we limit that thread to "how" without delving into what we will or won't use, or whether it's a good idea. /g/beta/message/6874 That's kind of a tough request to follow, especially when I introduced the question wondering which of three options would be best. Maybe we can hash it out here and bring a refined description back to beta@ In beta@ #6915 Vickie wrote: Looks like I won't be using the new feature A, B, or C settings./g/beta/message/6915 With the possible exception of replies by email, I think what you've described is exactly what I intended by option B. I wrote: B) Non-anonymous off-list support. Send to Sender reveals one's emailHere's an example of what I meant: John posts an item to the group. His message is posted in the group's messages section, and distributed to members by email according to their subscription settings (individual, digest, etc.). The only difference introduced by the Anonymous Posting option so far is that only John's name, not his email address, is revealed in his post; and that is true for other subscribers reading by email as well as for those reading by Groups.io's web site. Mary wants to contact John about the item. She goes to the web site and uses the Reply feature, clicking "Send to sender". In Mary's reply her email address is included normally (as the From and Reply-To address) in the message to John, and hence is revealed to John. John decides whether or not to reply to Mary. If he does, his email interface will include his address in his message to Mary in the normal way. After this point John and Mary are free to continue their off-list conversation as they please. Notably, if John chooses not to reply to Mary, neither she nor anyone else learns his email address. I think the additional thing that you want, which I didn't accomplish, was allowing Mary to contact John by way of her email interface. Instead my description forces her to the Groups.io site to do that. Call the above option B1, and what follows option B2. There is possibly a way to accomplish an off-list reply to an anonymous posting, and that's by taking a baby-step toward option C. Instead of a noreply address or other placeholder in group postings, Groups.io could insert something like what Mark proposed in the third bullet of his message #6797: John's posting could be from "[email protected]" (assuming John has set "John123" as his User Name in his profile). /g/beta/message/6797 But where Mark specified that any email to that address would be dropped, it could instead be forwarded to John's actual email address. That would allow Mary to reply via her email interface rather than the Groups.io site if she wishes. As before, her reply reveals her address to John, and Johns actual address is not revealed to Mary until and unless he decides to reply to Mary. Now B2 did require that John establish a User Name in his profile. That's probably a reasonable requirement, and it can be used as signifying his consent to have messages forwarded to him via this means (Just as in now signifies his consent to having people see his profile). Do either B1 or B2 make sense to you? Shal |
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Re: Chat groups - Reply option
You may be seeing long posts that aren't trimmed, such as /g/beta/message/6776 If you go to your group, select Messages on the left, then choose one of the View options from the drop down (Thread View is the default), you should be able to reply to individual posts. In your case, I think Expanded Message View might be the best choice. They would be shown in reverse chronological order (newest to oldest) by default. Once you hit the Reply button under the post that you're reading, you have the choice of Insert Quoted Text from that post. Once that's in there, you can select all that you don't want and hit the delete button on your computer, just like you would in an email program.
Is this what you're trying to accomplish? Duane |
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