On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 08:59 AM, Sandra Pickens-Gmail wrote:

Any ideas?

These errors are common with charter, rr, and a few other email services.? As was mentioned yesterday, a 4xx code (452 and 421) is considered a soft bounce.? For whatever reason (or none) the service has delayed accepting the message.? GIO will attempt to send the message again later.? The only way to avoid it is for the member to use another email service that doesn't do it.? GIO is still 'small' compared to Google and Yahoo, but as it grows and its reputation becomes better known, these interruptions should become more limited.

BTW, I have limited knowledge of this, so I hope Lena or one of the other email gurus will correct me if/when I make a mistake.

Duane
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I would have moved across years ago if I'd only known it would be so much better!

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:45 AM, Joe Wolfe wrote:

What can I do?

You're not supposed to be able to do that.? Make sure it actually got removed, and that no one else is owner.? If so, contact [email protected] to see if they can help.

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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:55 PM, Annick Phillips wrote:

I have read the wiki information about creating subgroups but I don't see any reference about photo albums there. Does a sub group have it's own photo albums? And if I were to choose the option to have the archives of the subgroup visible to the main group, would their photo albums also be visible to the main group members? Also, how do those archives of the subgroup appear to the main group? Is it a new menu option on the left side menu bar?
Annick

Annick,

I think the simple answer is to consider the groups to both be independent fully functional groups. The only special criteria that I am aware of is that members of the sub-group must also belong to the main group.

In other words, when you are looking at the main group, you see archives and photos and so on only for that group. You have to change to viewing the sub-group if you want to see archives and photos,and so on of the sub-group.

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I have read the wiki information about creating subgroups but I don't see any reference about photo albums there. Does a sub group have it's own photo albums? And if I were to choose the option to have the archives of the subgroup visible to the main group, would their photo albums also be visible to the main group members? Also, how do those archives of the subgroup appear to the main group? Is it a new menu option on the left side menu bar?
Annick

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 07:16 PM, William Halte wrote:

message in the archives the address is tructated to xxxxx.yyy@.....

This is for privacy reasons.? If your group doesn't mind revealing the entire thing, go to Admin > Settings, second area down is Privacy, bottom option is for "Hide Email Addresses In Archives".? If you set that to "Do not mask email addresses in the archives." they'll be visible online.

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A member sent an email with the email address of another individual in the text of the message. If you look at the email as received in an inbox the entire address is displayed.? If you view the message in the archives the address is tructated to xxxxx.yyy@.....? If you look at the source code the full address is there. If you click on the truncated address to send a reply to that individual you on get the truncated address on the TO line.?

Any words of wisdom of why and is their a fix?

Bill

OK, understood.
My group, after eliminating duplicates in the e-mailed list, currently has the following:
E-mailed is 766 photos using 293 Mb of space, or an average of 382Kb per photo.
Photos is 576 photos using 535 Mb of space , or an average of 913 Kb per photo.
Files is 132 Mb but that is not a concern.

What troubles me is that it appears that the e-mailed attachments, appearing in a
separate "folder" in the Photos section appear to be counted twice!
I looked at the Photos (not the e-mailed atts) and found that they are mostly
30-60 Kb each, much smaller than the 382Kb of the more recent E-mailed
photos from attachments. Most of the actual Photos were taken with old cameras log ago
and so are small.

As an experiment to see if the 766 photos were counted twice I added all photos together
and got 1342 photos.
If they were 382 Kb each, average, they would occupy 510 Mb of space.

That is enough to suggest that since the e-mailed photos are located in the Photos section,
they are being counted twice, and my free group really has a lot more space available that is
reported. Hope this is understandable.

I can invite one of you to be a Member if it would help clear this up.

Your opinion please.

Thanks,
Richard

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:06 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Note that this only affects a Wiki page when the page is created. Later edits
to the page retain the editor preference of its creation.

== ==
Well Shal, color me extra slooow!, but I finally understood the explanation about changing the Editor option in my Preferences to HTML temporarily. Once I did that yes, the other formatting buttons showed up in the Wiki Formatting Bar under the dropdown menu and I was able to effect the wanted changes.

So thanks to everyone on here who offered me help and suggestions, and also for all the explanations and patient nudging. I never would've figured it out on my own.

And with any luck this extended thread may help out some other newbies who're having a similar problem.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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Hello,

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 02:28 PM, Tom Eagle wrote:

Deferred - 452 4.1.0

That's a temporary error (anything 4xx is), so GIO will retry sending the invitation.? I'm not sure what the time is between tries.? Some services use this to "graylist" email senders like GIO to limit the amount of mail they can send in a relatively short time.

If you get a 5xx error, that means that GIO has received a hard error.? With those, it won't try again.

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This is an example of what I have in "sent invitations"

Don & Betty Flowers <bgflowers@...>

1:12pm

Deferred - 452 4.1.0 <[email protected]> server temporarily unavailable AUP#CMPOL

>>>On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:13 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

but if you used drag-n-drop<<<

I always use copy/paste if from a web image, and those were the ones that blew up w/ the broken image icon.
(I might use DnD if using the insert local image tool.)

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 01:01 PM, Lisa Maco wrote:

I think members of the group can be members without having to have a groups.io account.? Is that correct?

No.? When anyone joins the group, online or via email, they have an account on GIO - their email address.? If they want to do anything more than shown in the email command list, they'd need to go online.? However, that's not as tedious as it was on YG.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In? They don't even need to create a password unless they want to.

For setting up a signature, see /static/help#sig (which will need to be done online.)

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I am an owner and moderator of a neighborhood listserve that moved from the Yahoo Groups platform.? I created a groups.io account for myself so that I could create the new groups.io group.?

I think members of the group can be members without having to have a groups.io account.? Is that correct?

If so, they can do a number on things via email commands, such as:

What Are The Available Email Commands?

You can send a blank email to the following email addresses (substituting your group name for GROUPNAME):

[email protected]

To join a group

[email protected]

To unsubscribe from a group

[email protected]

To receive an email containing a list of these commands

[email protected]

To receive plain digests instead of individual messages

[email protected]

To receive full featured digests instead of individual messages

[email protected]

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages

[email protected]

To receive individual messages instead of digests or a summary

[email protected]

To only receive special messages

[email protected]

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web)

[email protected]

To contact the owners of a group

BUT how can members to things like change their signature?? Are there tasks that can be done only if the member has a groups.io account?

Thanks -

Lisa Maco
Owner/Moderator of FCCAlistserve, serving the Foxhall Community Citizens Association in Washington, DC.

Based on my testing, of joining sub-group:
Invite causes them to be joined to the Sub Group (with e-mails to them and group owner, and an 'accepted invite' activity log), and the Main group - without any notification (e-mail or activity log) - they just (mysteriously) appear on the list of members.
Subscribe+ e-mail results - if not already a Main Group member- in them joining the Main group (only), without any indication to them that they will - first they know is the Welcome to Main@~ email.

Neither is to my mind correct behaviour.

Jeremy

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:46 AM, Duane wrote:

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:

It still apears to me that our group's setting to 'text only' must be suppressing those text formatting options.

It shouldn't.? I just tested on one of my groups that is text only and the formatting bar has all the tools as long as my account preference is set to html and the window is large enough.

Duane

Epicatt2, I tested the other day and posted here as well. You don't have to change the group's settings. Just your own in Account (top right corner). And I found I could make a change to the wiki with the extra tools, and it remained, even after I changed my editor preference to text. In fact, I could use the functions on previously created pages even after changing to text editor.

Frances




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