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Re: Images stored as attachments do not count against the 1GB limit for Free lists - Please confirm.

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 05:22 PM, SP4149 wrote:
I understood that the 1GB limit on image storage included images stored as attachments.
Correct.? If people are getting more, they're just lucky - for now.? Mark has been fairly lenient, but I wouldn't depend on it.? See /static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

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Images stored as attachments do not count against the 1GB limit for Free lists - Please confirm.

 

When I moved my first list over from YG back in January 2018, I understood that the 1GB limit on image storage included images stored as attachments.
When you go to photos, scroll to the bottom you see image storage:
? ?for example:
Using 5.3 GB for attachments storage
Using 298 MB for photos storage

The list owner told me that "The photos attached to emails/posts are not counted towards out "free" limit of 1 GB."? which explains how he can have 5.3 GB of images stored as attachments.

I transferred over 17 lists from YG and was careful to keep image storage under 1GB, however it seems for a few list owners I was misleading them as they have also been told to post images as
attachments to stay under the 1 GB.? I also was told to go to the 'Forum' for a complete explanation of why images in Attachments do not count against the 1GB limit.?

So I need confirmation that I was wrong?and that the image totals posted at the bottom of the Photos section do not all count against the 1GB limit.

? Why even list Images in Attachments as a total at the bottom of the Photos section?

FWIW I belong to several Basic (Free) lists that are over I GB if Attachment images are part of the total.? I seem to have been reducing image storage unnecessarily because of the attachment images total.
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Re: Did all messages migrate from Yahoo? #migration #messages #yahoo

 

I found a similar discrepancy: our Y! message count is 650 messages higher than the number of messages that transferred over to GIO (27,500+). Comparing the Y! and GIO message history tables, I saw discrepancies in the monthly message counts all across our group's 13-year history. I worried that hundreds of messages had simply not transferred.?

So I got a direct download from Y! (which I received a mere 24 hours after requesting it). Here's what I found: there are approximately 500 fewer messages in the Y! download than Yahoo's own online message count suggests should be there. Seeing this, I'm now more inclined to believe the discrepancies are due to errors and/or losses on Yahoo's end, rather than a GIO transfer failure.?

Incidentally, before requesting the download, I'd tried migrating the messages to PG Offline but was unable to because of repeated Y! login failures -- a problem that apparently many PGO users are experiencing now.

Emma


Re: I can't transfer my group from Yahoo anymore! Why?

 

For options, see #10 and 14
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Search the messages also for Lena and also for PGO
Both mentioned in the FAQ but more commenting in messages.?


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Re: new member questionaire

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 05:15 PM, Beck, Laurence wrote:
No, our questionnaire is not an attachment, just an active ?Pending Subscription Notice. This is the first non-member responding to the group since we converted, so I am at a loss of how to accept them the correct way.
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See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

Frances

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I can't transfer my group from Yahoo anymore! Why?

 

I was going to transfer a group here now but there seems to be a message saying I can't.

Is there a workaround?


Re: new member questionaire

 

No, our questionnaire is not an attachment, just an active ?Pending Subscription Notice. This is the first non-member responding to the group since we converted, so I am at a loss of how to accept them the correct way.

Larry
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On Dec 6, 2019, at 10:43 PM, Frances via Groups.Io <frances@...> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:39 PM, Beck, Laurence wrote:
We've created the above and a prospective member just sent (our first) reply to the questionaire. Our group is for dogs with a medical condition and I want to approve their message and at the same time forward the information to the group where there will be discussions/recommendations to help with the condition.

How do I do that?
Is the questionnaire an attachment? If yes, what format?


Re: Group Policy Announcement For New Members

 

That is the perfect solution, Frances!? Thank you!

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As you can tell, I¡¯m still checking out the plethora of options now available with groups.io¡­

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Rich

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Group Policy Announcement For New Members

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You could make it a Guidelines member notice in Admin, Member Notices.

From the system help about the Guidelines notice:

A special case: Group Guidelines

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The Group Guidelines notice is a unique type that provides a convenient and versatile way to communicate and maintain the group¡¯s posting and conduct guidelines, if any. It has the following features and options:

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- can be sent automatically on the first of each month as a message to the group, with an option to include members subscribed via Special Notices Only

- can be sent automatically to all new group members

- can be sent manually by a moderator to a group member at any time, in case the member needs a review of the guidelines

- appears under its own "Guidelines" tab at left on the group¡¯s pages, with an option to be visible either by group members only or by the public


Unlike the other notice types, a group can create at most one Group Guidelines notice. If created, a Guidelines tab will automatically appear on the group home page. The rest of the features are optional and are specified as follows when creating or editing the notice.
See more -?/static/help#membernotices

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Re: Group Policy Announcement For New Members

 

Thanks, Paul.? I appreciate the comments and yes, our migration is going quite nicely thanks to Mark Fletcher stepping in to save the day.

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I do understand you not revealing the name of your group since I am a member of another group that also recently transferred from Yahoo.? It is a very private group discussing an even more detailed and obscure aspect of naval history than naval wargaming¡­

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Bests,

Rich

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of b&p
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Group Policy Announcement For New Members

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As an outside observer, I can't think of anything you have left out. Depending on how much of a stickler you want to be, you could make an "I read it and I will abide by the rules" check box part of the joining procedure, but that probably wouldn't be necessary if you have a trustworthy crew. Just my opinion; I never heard of your group's subject matter before?reading this dispatch five minutes ago, and I continue to be amazed and impressed that there is an interest group for just about everything!

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Good luck with your migration to ; I hope it is as smooth as ours has been.

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Paul (b&p)

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PS - I haven't identified the name of our group since we are a private-on-line group of friends with a common work and interest background dating back years, as well as other interests in common. We use the discussion group format to stay in touch easily and are grateful that was here to jump to when Yahoo "socked it to us" one last time! This GMF is also very helpful, so big props for that, too, and to all who think of issues I haven't but find useful knowing about.

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Re: new member questionaire

 

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Thanks Duane, for your response. If I do it that way¡­.and I have no problem with that¡­.will that add the member or do I have to do something else as well?
Larry




On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Duane via Groups.Io <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 11:25 AM, Beck, Laurence wrote:
does GIO have any internal mechanisms for protecting against evil attachments?
Only if it contains a virus I believe.? See ? The phishing and malware scans were disabled last I heard, due to excessive false positives.? You can somewhat control what happens using the Viruses option in the Message Policies section of the Settings page.

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Re: Group Policy Announcement For New Members

b&p
 

As an outside observer, I can't think of anything you have left out. Depending on how much of a stickler you want to be, you could make an "I read it and I will abide by the rules" check box part of the joining procedure, but that probably wouldn't be necessary if you have a trustworthy crew. Just my opinion; I never heard of your group's subject matter before?reading this dispatch five minutes ago, and I continue to be amazed and impressed that there is an interest group for just about everything!

Good luck with your migration to ; I hope it is as smooth as ours has been.

Paul (b&p)

PS - I haven't identified the name of our group since we are a private-on-line group of friends with a common work and interest background dating back years, as well as other interests in common. We use the discussion group format to stay in touch easily and are grateful that was here to jump to when Yahoo "socked it to us" one last time! This GMF is also very helpful, so big props for that, too, and to all who think of issues I haven't but find useful knowing about.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 1:31 PM Rich Sartore <admiral@...> wrote:
Hello Fellow Owners/Moderators,

I just transferred my group from Yahoo! to and was wondering if any of you have a suggestion regarding the best way of informing new members of your group purpose/policies.? Previously, I included the link to a PDF in the welcome email to the new member and that file outlined the purpose of the group, what subjects were and were not acceptable for posting, general etiquette, etc.? It's a two-page file and am happy to share it with other owners/moderators, but given the many features of , I welcome any suggestions for a better way to handle this.

Thanks Much,
Rich?


Re: Group Policy Announcement For New Members

 

You could make it a Guidelines member notice in Admin, Member Notices.

From the system help about the Guidelines notice:
A special case: Group Guidelines
?
The Group Guidelines notice is a unique type that provides a convenient and versatile way to communicate and maintain the group¡¯s posting and conduct guidelines, if any. It has the following features and options:
?
- can be sent automatically on the first of each month as a message to the group, with an option to include members subscribed via Special Notices Only
- can be sent automatically to all new group members
- can be sent manually by a moderator to a group member at any time, in case the member needs a review of the guidelines
- appears under its own "Guidelines" tab at left on the group¡¯s pages, with an option to be visible either by group members only or by the public

Unlike the other notice types, a group can create at most one Group Guidelines notice. If created, a Guidelines tab will automatically appear on the group home page. The rest of the features are optional and are specified as follows when creating or editing the notice.
See more -?/static/help#membernotices

And details of special options for guidelines.?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices
Some groups, including GMF, send it out automatically on a monthly basis.

Frances
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Re: Moving Attachments To Files

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

3. Is there a way to bulk download multiple files sent as attachments?

You can export all attachments using the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the Settings page. Groups.io provides no other bulk download function.
Well, I need to correct myself on this last one.

Attachments are indeed downloaded in a group export, but they are embedded in the mbox file, and are not made available as individual files. Only after I visited a couple of my own group exports did that light in my brain flicker back on.

So it appears the only way to get attachments is to visit each message containing one and download them individually. Sorry for the misinformation.

Bruce


Re: Hashtags

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 01:06 PM, Ali wrote:
Why do we keep getting this error?
Are you remembering to start it with the octothorpe (#)?? There shouldn't be any problem with something like #JohnSmith.

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Re: Migrating from Yahoo Groups #yahoo

 

I have a data download from Yahoo in October. I thought it included only my messages, but on further inspection it does look like the entire group¡¯s messages are saved (in mboxrd).


This is very encouraging; hopefully I will be able to upload the entire message archive to Groups.io at some point.?


Locked Re: Bug? Spontaneous Drafts???

 

It is all there on my reply 25610. Just click the box for quoted text.


On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 08:25 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 08:56 AM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:
?I read? the entire thread. you are just adding confusion by revisiting it.
Any chance that you can include selective quotes above your posts? In some cases it is totally unclear about what (and who) you are replying to, and a bit of careful selective quoting should eliminate that.

Chris


Re: Moving Attachments To Files

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 01:32 PM, Ali wrote:

But have a number of questions about Attachments:

1. Is it possible for Attachments to be stripped from message and automatically placed in a directory in Files?

No.

2. Is my understanding of these two attachment options correct:

2.1 Bounce = Bounce the whole message including attachments, if so what is the response to the sender?

It will be bounced with a 500-level error, as follows:

groupname @ groups.io (reading confirmation): 500 The group does not permit attachments.

2.2 Strip = Post the message but strip the attachments, if so what is the response to the sender?

If the subscriber has email delivery turned on, the message will be posted back to him without the attachment. There is no separate notification.

3. Is there a way to bulk download multiple files sent as attachments?

You can export all attachments using the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the Settings page. Groups.io provides no other bulk download function.

Bruce


Hashtags

 

I have read the Hashtag FAQ:

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Creating-Hashtags

But I have a question:

In creating hashtags for our group, we keep getting "That Hashtag is Invalid"

The hashtags we are creating are the name of a person, they are all one word, all standard ASCII characters, have no special characters, no numbers, no accents etc, and are not profane or curse words.

Why do we keep getting this error?

A limit to the number of hashtags a group can have?

Certain character not allowed together for example part of last name Sz ?


Moving Attachments To Files

 

I have read the Attachments, Files and Photos FAQs:

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos%3A-Part-2

But have a number of questions about Attachments:

1. Is it possible for Attachments to be stripped from message and automatically placed in a directory in Files?

2. Is my understanding of these two attachment options correct:

2.1 Bounce = Bounce the whole message including attachments, if so what is the response to the sender?

2.2 Strip = Post the message but strip the attachments, if so what is the response to the sender?

3. Is there a way to bulk download multiple files sent as attachments?

TIA


Group Policy Announcement For New Members

 

Hello Fellow Owners/Moderators,

I just transferred my group from Yahoo! to groups.io and was wondering if any of you have a suggestion regarding the best way of informing new members of your group purpose/policies.? Previously, I included the link to a PDF in the welcome email to the new member and that file outlined the purpose of the group, what subjects were and were not acceptable for posting, general etiquette, etc.? It's a two-page file and am happy to share it with other owners/moderators, but given the many features of groups.io, I welcome any suggestions for a better way to handle this.

Thanks Much,
Rich?