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Just a thought, since at least one person misunderstood the
requirement to have a prepaid annual premium group fee (they signed up
for a monthly payment arrangement, which wont' work).

That person thought paying for it monthly meant the group could be
transferred. That isn't the case. You have to pay one year in advance
for a premium group before your invitation will work.

If you've already done that, then follow the advice from others given
here.

Donald

On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:41:29 -0800, "Metasonix" <synth@...>
wrote:

I am sorry to bother you, but we followed the procedure exactly. I am
owner of both the Yahoo and groups.io groups.

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Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)

Never mind, I found it: "Group Managers Forum".

T. Golding -- what's the name of the Yahoo gmf?

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 04:42 PM, SP4149 wrote:

When I view attachments I find several file types in addition to the more usual image types.? Some of these like video files and pdf files seem to be allowed and occupy more storage than the expected jpg and gif files.

Ken -- There is no provision to inhibit attachments of a certain file type.?

The result is that attachments image storage is several times greater than the E-mail photos albums. Video files can easily consume the "FREE" 1GB
image storage.

You bet. If you want to keep people from doing that you will either have to strip/bounce attachments entirely, or moderate messages containing attachments so you can manually remove offending ones before they post. See Admin>Settings>Message Formatting>Attachments for options.

Removing attachments is cumbersome as you have to delete the message first and then log back into View Attachments.

Within View Attachments, click on the Size column header to find the biggest offenders. Each Subject name tabled here is an active link to the corresponding message. Having clicked that, select Edit Message from the More menu, and you can delete the attachment while still keeping the underlying message (i.e.: click its "Delete" checkbox before saving). When done, click the "Back" button on your browser a couple of times and you'll be back in View Attachments again.

So yeah, that can be a struggle. It might be nice to just be able to just tick a few checkboxes and delete a selection of attachments from the original table display. But with power comes responsibility, and having such a feature would also make it easy to delete something that you really wanted to keep.

The current way forces you to examine each attachment in its original context, and has some merit on that basis...at least from where I'm standing.

Are their any plans to make management of attachments easier or manage upload of video files separate from photo images?

I don't see anything to that effect on , unless it's covered under "Attachment Improvements." It might be more straightforward to filter attachments by size rather than by file type.

Regards,
Bruce

Thanks for this

I ran into two more issues. The blocker was that groups.io blocked message import from the script after 40 messages and told me to try again later. About an hour later I still couldn't import any more messages from that email address (I reconfigured to use a different email address for import and processed another 40 messages before that too got blocked).

The other issue was that your script said my mbox archive had "9022 messages (deleted messages excluded)" But Thunderbird finds the expected 15,000 messages in the mbox which matches the number in seen in PG Offline and in Yahoo itself.

Also, imported messages show the date and time of import, not of the original message

So yesterday, in the window while groups.io was open to accept new transfer requests, we booked a transfer. But in case they don't manage to get it done I've also requested a fresh mbox download from Yahoo!

Thanks for your sharing your work.

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When I view attachments I find several file types in addition to the more usual image types.? Some of these like video files and pdf files seem to be allowed and occupy more storage than
the expected jpg and gif files.? The result is that attachments image storage is several times greater than the E-mail photos albums.? Video files can easily consume the "FREE" 1GB
image storage.? Removing attachments is cumbersome as you have to delete the message first and then log back into View Attachments.
Are their any plans to make management of attachments easier or manage upload of video files separate from photo images?
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ken clark

www.shastasprings.com

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:42 PM, Metasonix wrote:

The process was started almost TWO MONTHS AGO. We have never received a response from the [email protected] email in the Yahoo group, thru email, or anywhere else.

Metasonix -- I'm not sure what you mean by this, but I'm guessing that you attempted to send an invitation to [email protected], but it did not go out. The Yahoo Groups invitation process has been finicky for years, and many people have experienced this problem, only to eventually overcome it.

First, check your status as outlined in?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948. What does it say in the pink box at the top of the resulting page? If it says "Be sure to invite [email protected]"?or something to that effect, that would confirm that your invitation never left Yahoo.

Some folks have had better luck after refreshing their Yahoo Group's invite page (Ctrl-F5), deleting browser cookies, logging out and back in, or trying another browser. Keep trying until the status changes to "We have received your invite and will accept it soon."

Yes, I see the "outage" message at /yahootransfer. What the hell does that mean?

It means exactly what it says...Yahoo Groups is acting up again and inhibiting the ability to get at group data. The same problems that everyone's having over there and causing people to leave is also causing difficulties for the groups.io transfer agent to do the exports.?

Until Yahoo gets their act together there isn't much anyone here can do about it; unless you know of a good way to steal data from a server that has crashed. The best you can do is try to get past this invitation problem so you're ready to give the go-ahead when/if things come back online again.

It is possible to download Yahoo group messages as a series of text files. How are they uploaded to groups.io as part of the message database?

Although we can speculate, no one here knows this for certain. We are a peer-to-peer user group...no groups.io employees here.

I already managed to download the FILES section of the Yahoo group and tried to upload it to groups.io -- it appears to start the process, but NEVER FINISHES. It just hangs.

Groups.io is not designed for cloud storage, and large uploads have a tendency to time out. You might have better luck doing this folder by folder.

Please respond to my email @Metasonix if possible. Thank you for your attention.

GMF is a forum, and public responses are preferred, so that others may benefit.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:42 PM, Metasonix wrote:

we followed the procedure exactly.

Apparently you didn't or you'd be transferred by now.? Go to /g/GroupManagersForum/message/24431 and start down the list, IN ORDER.? You won't be able to start a new transfer, if that's what's needed, until the outage at YG is over, if ever.? YG is on again, off again as far as transfers are concerned and Mark doesn't want folks to be disappointed, thus the notice.

Duane
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I am sorry to bother you, but we followed the procedure exactly. I am owner of both the Yahoo and groups.io groups.

The process was started almost TWO MONTHS AGO. We have never received a response from the [email protected] email in the Yahoo group, thru email, or anywhere else.

Yes, I see the "outage" message at /yahootransfer. What the hell does that mean?

It is possible to download Yahoo group messages as a series of text files. How are they uploaded to groups.io as part of the message database? I already managed to download the FILES section of the Yahoo group and tried to upload it to groups.io--it appears to start the process, but NEVER FINISHES. It just hangs.

Please respond to my email synth@... if possible. Thank you for your attention.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 01:48 PM, Patti Woodbury wrote:

If a topic is locked and a member uses the same subject line as a “new topic” does it start a new thread with the same subject line or is the same subject line rejected and the poster notified?

Patti -- That depends. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm?for details.

Summarizing:?
-- If an incoming EMAIL runs the subject line threading gauntlet described in the wiki page above, such that it would ordinarily be appended to an existing topic, then it runs up against the topic lock, and a rejection notice is sent.
-- If a subscriber is reading a locked topic online, the Reply button is disabled, such that he cannot post to the topic.
-- If the subscriber instead clicks on the "New Topic" button online, then it's NOT rejected, but is instead treated as a new topic, even if the subject lines match.

On a group I belong to, and another where I moderate, and topics are obviously not “locked”, when someone posts a subject line of “new member” or another commonly posted subject line, it often gets folded into really, really old threads which have a lot of posts to plow through (some containing outdated information). On my own groups I specify lock times to avoid this.

This kind of thing can happen, but in theory, if a given subject line has 30 consecutive days of inactivity, a new topic should be opened regardless of the message's origin, and that message will not end up being rejected by the previously-existing lock. More details at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/18863

I hope that made sense (it barely makes sense to ME).

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:26 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

So other than some possible duplication there's nothing to worry about it would seem.

If someone added to the subgroup is already a member of the main group under the same email adress, they won't get a duplicate account in main, they'll just be added to the subgroup.

Duane
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So other than some possible duplication there's nothing to worry about it would seem.

Thanks.

I don't know if anyone has thought of this but this site is a way for managers to learn all the editing and message mgte stuff. I frequently stop in the middle of doing something and explore all the ways to do something. Good OJT.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:06 PM, Bob Shettler wrote:

For 1. there is no facility that I can see that allows us to do that upload from the Emailed Photos folder.??

No, they'd have to be uploaded directly, not sent as an attachment.

For 2. that is a shame and there must be a way around this. We are new to this, but we are forced to pay for groups.io because we are or will be just above the 1gb limit. That limit is exceeded almost completely by our photographs. It is really hard to justify that expense when the photos are displayed at such poor quality.?

You've found the easiest way that I know of, selecting download to get actual size.? Because so many different screen sizes are used, from phones to 42", Mark decided to show maximum size for each screen.? Another option is to shrink your browser window before viewing photos to make them smaller using the responsive technology of the site.

Duane
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:06 PM, Bob Shettler wrote:

Thanks Bruce, but.......

For 1. there is no facility that I can see that allows us to do that upload from the Emailed Photos folder.??

Bob -- Correct. You will have to first download the photo from Emailed Photos and re-upload it to an album.

For 2. that is a shame and there must be a way around this.

Not that I am aware of. But now I'm wondering if I really understand the problem.

Is the issue with a low-resolution image displaying pixelation on your high-resolution desktop screen? If so, please consider what might happen to those viewing a larger image with a smartphone if your proposal was to be implemented.

We are new to this, but we are forced to pay for groups.io because we are or will be just above the 1gb limit. That limit is exceeded almost completely by our photographs. It is really hard to justify that expense when the photos are displayed at such poor quality.?

GMF is a user-to-user help group...we have no more "powers" within groups.io than you do. Actual feature requests should be posted to?.?

Good luck,
Bruce

Thanks Bruce, but.......

For 1. there is no facility that I can see that allows us to do that upload from the Emailed Photos folder.??

For 2. that is a shame and there must be a way around this. We are new to this, but we are forced to pay for groups.io because we are or will be just above the 1gb limit. That limit is exceeded almost completely by our photographs. It is really hard to justify that expense when the photos are displayed at such poor quality.?

Bob

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:58 PM, Su wrote:

Answer: YES. (So Bruce was correct.) This behavior makes sense for events that repeat say weekly or monthly, but for a 4-day event, it really doesn't. I guess I could work around it by making two separate events - one for the first day, with a reminder, and another for the remaining days, with no reminder. A bit clunky but still doable.

Su -- That would certainly work. Consider also setting up a single, all-day event that spans multiple days (as opposed to a recurring event). This will give you a single reminder notification for the first day as desired, with the downside that the start/end times for each day will not appear on the calendar.

Bruce

I hope that request does get implemented!

Reporting back on another part of my original questions.

2. If I set a reminder for the event, will it be sent before each day? (I ended up having to create an event that repeats for the 4 days. With a reminder say 5 days before the event, will it send one 5 days before the first day, then 5 days before the second day, and so forth?)

Answer: YES. (So Bruce was correct.) This behavior makes sense for events that repeat say weekly or monthly, but for a 4-day event, it really doesn't. I guess I could work around it by making two separate events - one for the first day, with a reminder, and another for the remaining days, with no reminder. A bit clunky but still doable.

Su

Thanks, Frances.? I tried off and on all morning to open messages on various groups with no luck, it is a good outage.? I got to everything, I just couldn't open anything.? I hope they haven't deleted archives.? and I hope they get it fixed.? Someone on yahoo gmf said he thought they were trying to institute the 10/28 changes and couldn't figure out how to do it, so they had it all messed up.

Terri