On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 04:01 PM, Ann Wild wrote:

You may be right, but if I send the Guidelines as a pdf, that file can be saved on the receiver's computer and read and referred to at any time.? The single member notice containing the Guidelines is likely to be lost.? I was just hoping for an attachment work-around.

Anne, your Guidelines document would also be saved in your group page. See GMF's homepage and it it the second item after Home.

Frances
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You may be right, but if I send the Guidelines as a pdf, that file can be saved on the receiver's computer and read and referred to at any time.? The single member notice containing the Guidelines is likely to be lost.? I was just hoping for an attachment work-around.

One of the problems now is that yahoo is all over the place with what it allows or disallows at any given moment.? One group I'm trying to move currently won't let moderators issue invitations even though it always has in the past.? Yet another group won't let the owner into her own group so she can change the settings. Another group sometimes labels moderators as moderators and an hour later calls them owners--so if you can catch the right flip-flop, you can do it.

Dennis Steckley.

I recently migrated a group from Yahoo and am going through the membership list to fix the bouncing email addresses.? I notice that even after I do so, and a bounce probe is successfully delivered, the blue or red bounce indicator remains on the member's entry.

Given that I have provided a new email address that works, I think that the bounce indicator should then go away.? But I continue to see numerous blue and red indicators, which makes it hard to zero in on the addresses that are actually still bouncing.? I have to access each such member and review the email delivery history.

If the bounce indicator is on, does this mean that no email is being delivered?? This does not make sense if an new email address has been provided and bounce probed successfully.? I would like the system to take note that a new email address was provided, and to reset the bounce indicator.

Is there a way to easily and predictably reset the bouncing status?? Or does this need to be an enhancement request?

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I asked yesterday how I can check the progress of our group transfer from yahoo.? I co own a group.? The other owner paid the fee.? Now he is in the hospital or at least unavailable.? We initiated the payment and request just before the fee increase.? We have seen no progress to indicate that anything has been done.? Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the info had probably already been grabbed from yahoo but the upload to groups.io was the holdup.? The natives are starting to get restless so is there any way to see what is in the list?? Even to know numbers (how many are on the non priority list, how many are done in an average day, etc) would be helpful in reassuring the list members that it will happen before the deadline.

I found it very odd that a co-owner can't see the transfer progress if that owner was not the one that paid the fee and initiated the transfer request.? Has that been asked/mentioned in beta?

Thank you.

Jim

Hello,?
I have started several groups with??two of which I have paid the $220 to transfer. Suddenly I noticed that the ones I started with my Gmail address have disappeared. I am the only owner of these groups and was owner through myGmail address this means I have no access to management of the groups. I am getting email to approve the first posts of members, but cannot access the management icon. I get mail from the io.groups which I also joined with my?bellsouth email account. but none through the groups with gmail accounts.

I had to resubscribe to this group to be able to send this email, though I have been a member for months.?

One of my groups with about 70,000 messages was transferred and the after action report showed perhaps a score of messages not transferred because of Ysahoo issues.
I've looked up thr message numbers and they are present on Yahoo still. I believe it's possible to retransfer just the messages.

Queries:

Is it necessary to delete the entire message file on Groups.io ?

What happens to the messages received by Groups.io in the interim between group startup and the new transfer?
At the moment, those messages seem to be assigned a new number series series, starting at #1.

For example, suppose a Yahoo group had 5000 messages at the time of scraping, and 5 messages were received at the Groups group in the interim between foundation and upload,
the message sequence would look like:

#4997
#4998
#4999
#5000
#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
#5001
#5002
#5003


After? the rescraping and reload, would the #1 to #5 be lost?

Thank you.

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 01:46 PM, <mcmggroups@...> wrote:

The Display Name simply is not editable in the Subgroups.? Is there a reason for this?

Correct.? You must use the same Display name in the subgroup that you use in the main group.? There was a discussion on the beta group about this and this is what was decided.

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 01:46 PM, Andrea wrote:

Does anyone know if there is the possibility to migrate the whole group from yahoo to IO nevertheless?

You can only use the Easy Yahoo Transfer if someone can send invitations and promote members to moderator.

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well, well, well. Thank you. [insert image of open-palm head smack here...]

I did not realize the activity log was there. And indeed, another moderator approved the request. Thanks so much!

I will see if there is a way to close this thread, after I hit send, to prevent others from spending any time on this.

Thanks again!
Tina

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 07:44 PM, Christina Ferrigno wrote:

Anyone know what I may be doing wrong, or if there is currently some sort of system bug??

Without attempting to answer your question, are there any clues in your Activity log? What is showing there?

Chris

Hello,
just recently the owner of our yahoo-group died, so now we are three moderators left, and none of us has the right to add a new member as moderator.
Does anyone know if there is the possibility to migrate the whole group from yahoo to IO nevertheless? And if you do not know, whom could I ask?
Sorry, time is running, but I have no clue at the moment.

Many greetings
Andrea

I am the owner of [email protected], Montgomery County Maryland Master Gardeners.? We have just begun to use and have run into a problem with Display Names in Subgroups.

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The owner of the [email protected] site is <similar Gmail email address>? I am logged into this account when I do my work on the site.? I have the main group and two subgroups.? In the main group, if someone neglects to fill in their Display Name, I can edit it and fill in their name for them.? However, I cannot edit the Display Name in either of my Subgroups even though I am OWNER in both Subgroups as well.? The Display Name simply is not editable in the Subgroups.? Is there a reason for this?? I am logged in as the OWNER of the main site and this owner also owns the Subgroups.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Mod's note - email address redacted.

I have the settings for my group set up such that folks wanting to join need to be approved. What is in fact occurring is they ask to subscribe, and then an hour or so later that are automatically approved. Anyone know what I may be doing wrong, or if there is currently some sort of system bug??

Thanks,
Tina

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 02:00 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

The primary group is currently known as NAIAandNAIATrustMembers.?? The name of the other group (so far not converted) is NAIATrustBoard.

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It would make sense the use NAIAandNAIATrust as the domain (I think it would be called) and then use Members and Board as the two sub-groups.

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Feasible?

Eric -- What you suggest is feasible. See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group?for some impacts of renaming that perhaps you haven't though of.

Keep in mind that everyone in any subgroup must also be a member of the primary group. This can lead to subsequent member management headaches if the structure of your primary- and sub-group membership does not naturally follow that convention. With that in mind, I'm not sure why it's necessary to have a separate "members" subgroup, unless the people serving on the board are not members.?

Regards,
Bruce

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Thanks! I had done it but it didn't take and upon another look I realized that I didn't type "I understand" to confirm the deletion.

Rachel

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:42 PM, Rachel wrote:

I have a couple of subgroups on my main group that have lost steam and i'd like to remove them...

Rachel -- You'll find a "Delete Group" button at the bottom of each subgroup's Settings page. Be?absolutely sure?you're in the proper subgroup settings page, not your primary group, when you do this!

You will have to type "I understand" to confirm the deletion...no "cat walking across the keyboard problem" here.

Bruce