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Hello,

I tried the migration strategies when we first moved our group from Yahoo to groups.io.? Nothing worked out in terms of migrating historic content.
I just recently was able (with Yahoo's latest tools) download all the content from the group.?? So at least now I have an archive of the old content.

I was wondering, is there any mechanism to import this content into my already existing Groups.io group??? Groups.io is working fine for us
(much less hassle than Yahoo and FINALLY timely delivery of messages...)

Thanks!

Earl

I started the process per the:
/yahoo/transfer page
to move the EuropaAssociation@yahoogroups to [email protected]. I paid the $220 premium fee and went through the "set up new transfer", including sending an invite from the Yahoo group to [email protected]..

Per the transfer page the next step is that groups.io will accept the invite and sent me an email directing me to make the [email protected] member a moderator. However, it has now been 10 days and I have still not even been contacted by groups.io. I cannot find anything on this site that gives me any way to contact groups.io about this problem. Can anyone here help?

Thanks
Arthur Goodwin

Please let me know what happens. I was unable to add the email address I use for groups to the list of addresses yahoo has on file for me. Seems they no longer allow that. Maybe there’s a way around that though.

Susan B

Our group too is looking right now at the PGOffline.? At the present time, our Yahoo Group is the largest tractor membership of 2793 members within Yahoo Groups after the Verizon takeover.? Before that, the John Deere group was the largest.
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Our only concern is having messages as an archive to review when needed.? Most of the messages deal with tractor fixes, 3pt attachments, and what size diesel engines can do what type of work.
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Myself and other group members no longer have a Yahoo Owner nor moderator anymore.? Thus, it's just a few of the members doing the work.? We lost the owner back in 2009.? Then the mods during the Verizon ordeal because none of them could get their accounts to work, even with Yahoo assisting them.
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So, after trying a few of the Python options (most didn't work now after the Oct 28th date) PGOffline seems to be our only option as small farm farmers don't have $220 to go premium nor another $200 to expedite.

So, with email addresses, how are we handling this ???? We have sent out DAILY reminders for folks to join us at Groupsio post on the current Yahoo Gruops.? We have posted this in various tractor forums on the web as well.? Both in English and in the known other international countries too.?

Sure, it would have been GREAT to have an owner or mod helping in this, but nobody is left.? Our group was left on AUTO-PILOT.? Our issue is, the plane is running out of fuel on Dec 13th at midnight, and how do we land this thing.? Groupsio is the runway in sight.?? We want all aboard our membership to survive, but we do know there will be those as causalities.?? BUT, some farmers are now in retirement homes, passed on already or let the business.
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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:52 AM, Pete Twissell wrote:

The page tells me that group is already part of another transfer.
I suspect that a transfer may have been started by the previous owner, but a search in groups.io doesn't show any group with a similar name or content.
I have asked the previous owner of the Yahoo group for help, but not sure if he will be able to.

Can anyone advise me how I should find out about the 'other transfer' that my Y! group is involved in and how to resolve this situation, please?

This has happened before, and only support can look up the other transfer for you ([email protected]). At that point you should be able to contact whoever owns the other group and find a way to work out which will proceed (i.e.: who is going to delete their pending transfer request).

Regards,
Bruce

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:49 AM, CL wrote:

I own a fairly large Yahoo group, and it has transferred successfully to Groups.io.

Congratulations.

I've set the Yahoo group to require moderation of new posts for the moment.

You should continue to do that, and redirect anyone who attempts to post to the new group. If their messages aren't getting through, they will soon get the idea.

I'd like to have new posts to Yahoo group automatically propagate to the Groups.io group until I close down the Yahoo group entirely. Is there a best practice for doing so?

If you must, you can set up an email integration on groups.io and a forwarding address on your own mail provider such that group emails are forwarded to the integration address. Please be aware of the risk of dupe loops arising from this practice.

The actual "best practice" is to simply redirect people who attempt to post to the old group as stated above. You have to cut them off eventually, and there's really no benefit to be derived from not starting now.

Regards,
Bruce

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 09:17 AM, Nancy Goldman wrote:

So only those members that were invited to the subgroup could access it?

Yes, if you set the subgroup to Restricted.

Bruce

Gerald,

In order to download your groups' data, you must be logged into Yahoo
using the Yahoo account that can see all of your Yahoo groups.

Understood, and I was.

It doesn't matter which email addresses you have defined for the
individual group "Identity".

Do you have evidence for that, or is it just a logical assumption. I assumed that too, but I was given the "no data" answer.

However, I suspect you also must have gone through the "Oath"
acceptance.

I accepted their TOS early on, when first required. So that's not the issue in my case.

Shal


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Susan,

I got that same message saying no data available from yahoo and
wondered if it’s because my email address for groups i joined is
different from my yahoo accoint email address.

Oh, that's an interesting idea.

And it might be spot on, as my account's Yahoo Mail address has never appeared in any of my group memberships. When I created my account it was optional to create a corresponding Yahoo Mail inbox, and I chose not to.

So maybe I should go join that address to all of my groups, and promote it to the appropriate Role where I can, and try the request again.

But seriously Yahoo... If this is correct then it means they searched out content based on the account's Y!Mail address, and not the account ID or any of its alternate (recovery) addresses. That feeds into my bias that Yahoo Mail was the primary cause of most of the problems encountered by Yahoo Groups users.

Shal


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On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 04:21 PM, <terry.h@...> wrote:

I received a notification of a "pending member" for my Groups.io group. We are currently in the mid-migration holding pattern. What's the wisdom on how to proceed here. Should I just accept the pending subscription?

Is the pending member also a member of your Yahoo group awaiting migration? If no then there is no obvious reason not to admit them. If yes then it might be preferable to send them an email saying "please wait and your membership will be transferred from Yahoo" or something of the sort.

The earth won't stop spinning if an existing Yahoo member is admitted in advance but it will upset the ownership details of their material imported into Groups.io

Chris

$220 for a Premium account. That includes the transfer. Also Direct Add and more storage.
The $200 is an expedite fee - if you wish.

If you don't need your message archive, photos, etc. you can still just do basic group. If you want Groups.io to transfer for you, you must pre-pay for the year of Premium. You can go to basic afterwards.
You can also move some groups as subgroups into your main group. See the instructions in the GMF wiki.

Sounds like you need to start with the FAQ! Info on what is moved, what to do instead:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

And pricing -?/static/pricing

Frances


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The uptick in price for Premium along with the $200. expedite fee (I opted for both and got the $110 with 15 minutes to spare), both happened on the same day, October 22, as I recall. ?Not wanting to be held up in a long line, I held my nose and jumped in the transfer pool that day, unsure what would happen. ?I feel very fortunate because, although I was told it would take several days, the transfer was complete in three hours. ?

I know this is of no help to those now waiting with hundreds of groups ahead of them, but I wanted to reply to your comment. ?To those who are waiting, I thinking the expedite fee might well be worth it, if you can afford it, though I have no idea at this point how much of a boost it will give you. ?All the very best.

What I do know is that it is very important to set up your group and its options, though they can be changed later, before your transfer occurs. ?I was so glad I had done that the day before.

I understand the charge of $ 220 for the first year but is that the do it yourself transfer option? Is the expedited charge of $200 the fee for Groups IO to do it?

Sent from my iPad Nancy Goldman

I received a notification of a "pending member" for my Groups.io group. We are currently in the mid-migration holding pattern. What's the wisdom on how to proceed here. Should I just accept the pending subscription? Advise them to join the Yahoo Group? Or have them wait until the migration is complete.

In other data migrations I've been involved with, the concept of "freezing" activity at some point has been crucial to make sure all the data (and users) get transferred. Any thoughts on how best to approach this?

Thanks,
Terry

I have been trying to replicate our Yahoo Groups photo archive on Groups.io and while setting up 19 albums and transferring photos to 18 of them successfully have run into a? freezing problem on the 19th album .The entire photos directory only occupies 47MB .

On the 18 albums I have 377 photos and album 19, I have 396 photos uploaded out of possible 400,? but find when I attempt to upload images even singly, when I press 'Add' , all I get is a blank white screen.? I have tried different browsers without success and assume that my attempts are either blocked or throttled back .? ?If so what limiting condition is being applied ?

On 2019-11-03 8:29, Bruce Bowman wrote:

If you're unable to invite new subscribers to your Yahoo Group, then I suspect you can't promote anyone to Moderator, either...both of which are necessary for the agent to gain full access to your group's data.

But if you have a lot of time on your hands, it's possible to migrate everything but the message archive yourself, using freely available tools. Please see the FAQ at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups, starting at #10. Meanwhile, Mark is offering refunds to those who paid for Premium but are unable to complete the process. See details.

Bruce: Thanks for your advice. The FAQ led me to PG Offline, which seems like a decent option.

Since it turns out we won't be able to use the Groups.io Transfer Agent to migrate from our Yahoo group, I can't see any benefit from having the one-year Premium level. However, a one-month Premium level would be extremely useful to directly add members. I'm trying to see if we change to just a one-month Premium level, and receive a $200 refund.

Lyndon

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 03:57 PM, W9WIS wrote:

You were correct ! <snip> Thanks.... Should all be fixed now.

And it's very nice that "the loop has been closed" so that we can all see that a problem has been resolved.

That doesn't always happen...

Chris

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 03:49 PM, CL wrote:

I'd like to have new posts to Yahoo group automatically propagate to the Groups.io group until I close down the Yahoo group entirely. Is there a best practice for doing so?

There is no simple way of doing this; there is certainly no click here to enable autoforwarding.

I am tempted to ask why. Although it may seem brutal IMHO the best option is to disable posting on your Yahoo group immediately after posting a message there to the effect that from "now" all business will be via the Groups.io group. If you enable members to use Groups.io by posting on Yahoo you risk extending the transition period during which your individual members stop sending to Yahoo and start sending to Groups.io instead.

Another complication would will be that (a) submits a post to Yahoo (which is then forwarded to Groups.io) and then (b) replies. But will (a) see (b's) reply? Perhaps, perhaps not. Unless you set up bidirectional forwarding then I think you are providing a mechanism for growing confusion.

Your members might grumble (many probably will regardless) but I genuinely think that a sharp transition is the best way forward.

Chris