On 10/19/2019 9:32 PM, rich hurd wrote:

I invited the transfer email address to my Y!G group yesterday and got the user back that day.? Had to get the list owner to make it a moderator but otherwise it was smooth.? Not sure what is happening but my money’s on an overload of groups migrating.

Mark just posted this on the beta list:

"On Wednesday, we had 20x the number of groups created that we do on a normal day. And each day after that has been even more. Our web traffic is about double normal."

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On 10/19/2019 18:00, Shal Farley wrote:

So for that reason, plus the fact that including it would make the link rather huge (in many cases

Oh, ugh, right. It would literally double the size of the message.

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Hi,

This is with TBird 68.1.1/64-bit (Tumbleweed).

The composition window is properly populated.? I do get a blank, Loading ... tab.? Probably a bug.? I'll investigate it later and if need be, file a bug.

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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 08:47 PM, Alex wrote:

Do I maybe have to FIRST set up a group to transfer into on the groups.io end?

Alex -- That's correct.?

The steps must be done in order. The transfer agent is not going to accept an invitation from a Yahoo group that hasn't first requested a transfer.

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Bruce

Glenn,

Importantly, it has to work with every Mail User Agent (MUA) that
displays it, not just Thunderbird.

Bingo. That's the core of the issue.

In testing Mark discovered that many email interfaces would not use a body="text to put in the message body" parameter to the mailto: link. So for that reason, plus the fact that including it would make the link rather huge (in many cases), Mark decided not to include it.

Shal


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Pablo,

I tried starting Thunderbird in Safe Mode, with all Add-ons disabled, but the behavior of the Reply links is unchanged. This tells me that Add-ons are not the cause of the problem. Thanks for letting me know that upgrading to TB 68.x does not solve the problem either. I'm in no hurry to move to that version in the midst of all the other chaos of transferring nine Yahoo! Groups to Groups.io.

Robert R.

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Like Duane, I don't understand why one would think that the link would work with trimming and like Duane, I suggest in in Thunderbird (which I also use, version 60.9.0) that you do the mark and reply trick, as I have done here.

The Reply-to-Group link looks like this for this thread:

a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject===3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5BGMF%5D%20Problem%20replying%20in%20Thunderbird%20using=%20message%20footer%20link%20%23reply-to-group">Reply To Group</a>

That's an HTML encoded mailto link, no different really from a mailto link one might find on a contact page on some website.

Importantly, it has to work with every Mail User Agent (MUA) that displays it, not just Thunderbird. Snipped responses are not, if I recall correctly, part of the IETF standard for MUAs, so that isn't how the mailto link behaves. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Gmail web UI doesn't support that.

In short, it doesn't work because it's not supposed to work that way.

Best,

Glenn

Hi Robert,


On 68, I did get a new window.


I am almost fully migrated to 68. I will let you know what I find.


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It's been two years since I migrated a group from yahoo to groups.io .

Last time (per my old notes from Mark) the procedure starts with inviting [email protected]?to membership.
Then when [email protected]?responds to the invite, make it a moderator.

I have sent two invites in the last approximately 2 days, but [email protected]?has not joined the group yet.

Am I missing something? Has the procedure changed? Do I just need to wait a while?
I sent an email inquiring why no action on groups.io end yet, ?but so far all I got back was
"Your request (9894) has been received and is being reviewed by our support staff.

To add additional comments, reply to this email."

Do I maybe have to FIRST set up a group to transfer into on the groups.io end?

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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 02:31 PM, Pablo Sanchez wrote:

Hi Robert,

I went ahead and upgraded to Tbird 68.x and I'm able to now click on either?Reply to Group or?Reply To Sender.??I get a new window.? The quirky thing is that a blank tab is still created.? However, what's even crazier is that now, with Tbird 60.8.x, I get the same behavior as 68.x.? I suspect one of my Add-ons mucked things up.

You might consider starting TBird in?Safe Mode.

I need to finish hacking on emulating my keyboard bindings before I can look into the above.? :p

Cheers,
-pablo

Pablo,

I tried starting Thunderbird in Safe Mode, with all Add-ons disabled, but the behavior of the Reply links is unchanged. This tells me that Add-ons are not the cause of the problem. Thanks for letting me know that upgrading to TB 68.x does not solve the problem either. I'm in no hurry to move to that version in the midst of all the other chaos of transferring nine Yahoo! Groups to Groups.io.

Robert R.

How does the Google form compare with the Groups.io Pending Subscription Notice?

Frances
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I created a Google form and placed a link to it in the Pending Subscription Notice. I have the Google form set-up to notify me when I get a new submission so I know when to approve a new member. I like using the Google form because I can set it up so that the prospective member has to answer all the questions without skipping any and causing me to have to send more emails requesting the info. Hope this is helpful.?

Nancy

Hi Margaret,

Is it possible that the response-form is accessible to a web crawler???

Have you google'd your Group's email address?? That's what I'd do first to see if somehow it has been leaked into the wild.

Cheers,
-pablo

I own a group which is not listed in the Groups.io directory, has private archives and a restricted membership. Occasionally I receive requests to join the group directly from the groups.io group - about one or two a year. In the past 24 hours I have received 8 such requests to join the group all emanating from the USA. Has anyone else which a similarly constituted groups.io had a similar experience to this please?

The usual method of joining my group is via a public website which contains a membership form which prospective members can fill in and send to me. The name of the groups.io group is not shown to anyone until they have filled in this form satisfactorily.

Any comments, observations, etc would be welcomed.

Margaret
UK

If the user is using a different email address for reception, this can be the case if he is using email forwarding service, like I do, he has to add this email adress to his aliases at the user settings page.

This is one big advantage compared to the yahoo system. At groups.io I can answer mails from a bunch of different email addresses if they are set up in email alias page.

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Frances and Bruce,

Susan,?

Go to Admin, Members. Find the member. Tick the check box. Click on the arrow to open the menu. Choose Change Moderation. One of the options is?Override: not allowed to post.

Frances


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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 06:30 PM, Susan B wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to do this??

Sure. Go to Admin>Members and click open his member record (click on it). Scroll down to the Posting Privileges block and select "Override: Not Allowed to Post."

Be sure to Save your changes.

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Bruce

Can anyone tell me how to do this??

Thank you -
Susan B