Re: Can a Yahoo Group be transferred without the member list?
Robert wrote:>> I know it seems strange to ask but I wondered if it was possible to have the messages and files (and links if there is that feature - can't see it) and not the member list, at least not initially.<<
Robert,
I had my archives transferred to a subgroup without the membership, so yes it can be done. You have to copy your own files and links/database yourself though and manually move it.
Brenda
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Shal Is there an option to turn off on the ?group front ?page Top Poster and also ?hashtag? Vickie
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Can a Yahoo Group be transferred without the member list?
I know it seems strange to ask but I wondered if it was possible to have the messages and files (and links if there is that feature - can't see it) and not the member list, at least not initially. Robert
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
"I also let Mark know about the issue I was having my member account in the group, where I ask for the login link to be emailed, and it come right away, but when I clicked the link I got it was expired."?
Clearly, the login links were travelling at faster than the speed of light. That's how good Mark is. :-)
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Daddy Dean <daddydean1@...> wrote: Hi Shal and Group, Just wanted to update everyone.? I sent an email to Mark last night, saying member is able to log in both here and computer now with no issues, so she is happy.? So I think in a week I got all of the members who were switched over from Yahoo to IO who had issues resolved.? I also let Mark know about the issue I was having my member account in the group, where I ask for the login link to be emailed, and it come right away, but when I clicked the link I got it was expired.? That was happening in both Chrome and FireFox for that account.? Mark emailed me before 1 PM EST and said he fixed the issue and when I checked a little later everything was working.? So I once again, I am happy I moved the group from Yahoo as it is very refreshing to report an issue and have resolved in less then 240hours! Dean?
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Hi Shal and Group, Just wanted to update everyone.? I sent an email to Mark last night, saying member is able to log in both here and computer now with no issues, so she is happy.? So I think in a week I got all of the members who were switched over from Yahoo to IO who had issues resolved.? I also let Mark know about the issue I was having my member account in the group, where I ask for the login link to be emailed, and it come right away, but when I clicked the link I got it was expired.? That was happening in both Chrome and FireFox for that account.? Mark emailed me before 1 PM EST and said he fixed the issue and when I checked a little later everything was working.? So I once again, I am happy I moved the group from Yahoo as it is very refreshing to report an issue and have resolved in less then 240hours! Dean?
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Hi Shal,
I sent the help request to IO last night, but I did not say it was happening in Chrome.? If Mark replies tomorrow I will let him know it is Chrome that it happening on!? I can always email the member and ask what browser she is using as well.? Just to see if her issue could be caused by the browser as well.
Dean
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Re: reply to sender/group
?Can I just say something off topic I read gmf messages ?and ?reply via my email account.
When responding to ? messages, without ?an addressed name or some thread to follow I have no clue who is replying to who and this is especially true if ?I have not kept up with every message submitted to gmf ?group.
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From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 5:51 PM
Subject: [GMF] Re: reply to sender/group
Yes, that's what I thought you meant.? You have my full support on this if it needs to be posted on beta@.? It seems it would reduce Ro's problem, if not eliminate it. Duane
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Dean, I guess you missed where I tired it today and I am still get thing link
in the email, but when I click it is expired and yet the email says it
will expire 30 minutes pass when I am trying. Nope, didn't miss that. Have you tried since Mark announced his fix? /g/beta/message/5463The owner one I get the link click I go right to my groups for IO. ...
Owner is coming into hotmail on Firefox, ... Right. It apparently has been working all along on Firefox. However the member profile the link as soon as it arrives when I click
on it and it shows expired. ... and member comes into my hotmail
account opened in Chrome! Chrome, not IE? If that's still happening definitely let Mark know. Both are on same computer running Win7. Yup, IE on Win7 is the specific failing case that Mark identified. He'll want to know if Chrome is another and still failing. -- Shal
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Re: reply to sender/group
Ro,
I don't mind choice Ro, if this is what you want. Every moderator should have the functionality of groups that best suits them..?
If it's implemented ?I would like the option to ?turn it off.? ? Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:34 PM
Missing the point. ?Should be the group owners choice, no matter what group. ?Choice either way: ?have it available or don't have it available. ?A CHOICE, available in Settings, would not disrupt or change anyone's way of doing things.
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Hi Shal,
I guess you missed where I tired it today and I am still get thing link in the email, but when I click it is expired and yet the email says it will expire 30 minutes pass when I am trying.?? I am not sure what is happening as I have two membership to my group as I have the owner one, and one where I am only member so I know what the members should see.? The owner one I get the link click I go right to my groups for IO.? However the member profile the link? as soon as it arrives when I click on it and it shows expired.? Owner is coming into hotmail on Firefox, and member comes into my hotmail account opened in Chrome!? Both are on same computer running Win7.
Dean
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Re: reply to sender/group
Yes, that's what I thought you meant. You have my full support on this if it needs to be posted on beta@. It seems it would reduce Ro's problem, if not eliminate it.
Duane
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Duane, I just tried it in CST and it worked fine, so I doubt that it's a time
zone thing. Very possibly only a glitch if Mark was "playing" with
things. I know he claims to take weekends off, but often see evidence
of him being around - posts or tweaks. Looks like he's solved it. /g/beta/message/5463Hopefully that resolves Dean's case and the other instances too. -- Shal
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Re: reply to sender/group
Duane, Shal's idea of a default being the same as the email setting with a drop
down menu certainly sounds doable and might be easier to understand and
follow. Having a separate selection and Send would also make sense in
case someone accidentally chose the wrong one. I don't much care for
those boxes that do something as soon as you make a selection,
especially if you make the wrong one. ;>) I was imagining that one would click the down-arrow to open the menu and the message would be sent when you click on your choice. I also imagined that the menu would fully spell out those choices ("Send to Group", "Send to Sender", "Send to Moderators"). In my thinking they're no more prone to selecting the wrong one than the buttons are. Less so, in fact, because having to click on the arrow to see them gives you an extra moment to think about what you're doing. And, to Ro's case, I think a member who's prone to dither between the two buttons and perhaps choose the wrong one is much less likely to open a menu at all. That member, I think, would be far more prone to click the one available button. -- Shal
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Re: reply to sender/group
Missing the point. ?Should be the group owners choice, no matter what group. ?Choice either way: ?have it available or don't have it available. ?A CHOICE, available in Settings, would not disrupt or change anyone's way of doing things.
Ro
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From: "vickie via Groups.io" <vickie_00@...>
Date: 01/24/2016 12:24 (GMT-08:00)
Ro,
Freecycle groups must have reply to sender and ?it must go to the members private email account on wanted or offered items.
Freecycle members also know to ?use ?group post email to create a new subject to the group to post taken or pending.. ?
We can't use ?.io freecycle groups otherwise
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Chat groups should have reply to group only.
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Dean, I finally got the member into the site, but she says if she signs out
only way she can get back in is to ask to have link sent again. If she means using the "Logout" item in the menu next to her name, then yes that's how it is supposed to work. If she'd rather be able to log back in using a password, have her click on "Profile" in that same menu, then edit her profile to set a password there. Sometimes people say "sign out" meaning only that they closed the browser window, or logged out of their computer account, or shut down the computer. If that is what causes her to need a new login link then there is something (a security setting probably) that is deleting the cookie Groups.io needs to retain her logged-in status. I tired the send link again a couple times after posting here and I
still was getting that it had expired and it sending me back to send
link page do I sent message to Help at IO. Mark may be on the trail of that one. It seems to be related to IE. /g/beta/message/5459-- Shal
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Re: reply to sender/group
Ro, I dont quite understand anyone being against a group owner having the
option to eliminate, for members, the Reply to Sender button. To me it seems like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer: a much too heavy-handed solution to the problem, when better alternatives exist. Did you read what I proposed? Any reasons that won't work for you? It seems to me a way to resolve the accidental use of Reply to Sender, while preserving functionality for the member. By avoiding the need for a new Settings option it also minimizes the coding change needed and the amount of training/education for other group owners ("why are there two Reply-To options"). Yahoo doesnt have the Reply to Sender choice, yet one can certainly PM people. Actually it does, though so well hidden that many people don't know about it. After you click reply, click on the two down-pointing chevrons to the left of the Subject line. That will open up the message header so that you can adjust the To: for your reply. There are five choices: Group, Sender, Moderators, and two combinations. If you're a moderator of the group, you can also change the From: address to be the group's -owner address, instead of your personal address. I can see tho, that most dont feel the same way that I do so it will be
probably a fruitless battle to suggest it in Beta. Maybe. If you find my suggestion acceptable, that might garner support among groups that normally operate with Reply To set to "Sender", as well as any moderators that have experienced the problem your way around. -- Shal
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Hi Duane,
I just went backed and tired it again since it was over 12 hours ago when it was doing this.? I signed out when I went to sign in I told it to send me the link.? Put email addy in the box and sent it.? I got the email clicked the link went right back to the page where I had been to have it sent but at the top was the link had expired!? Posted both below Hello,Here is a link to log into your Groups.io account:/loginlink/8114062971577090473It will expire on 01/24/2016 at 3:43pm EST. If you did not ask for a login link to be sent to you, please ignore this email.Dean ?
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Re: reply to sender/group
Of course not, I never suggested that.?? there needs to be a NEW setting that allows that choice.?
Ro
with Sally and Silk waiting at their feed dishes, and Handy, Feliz &? Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.
From: xaunloc@... Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:35:22 -0500
Ordinarily I don't like "ditto" or "+1" posts, but this is one case where I
think it is significant to let the powers the be understand that there are
definitely people on both sides of this issue.
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Simply choosing "Reply to Group" as the default MUST NOT automatically
disable Reply To Sender.
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Re: reply to sender/group
Ro,
Freecycle groups must have reply to sender and ?it must go to the members private email account on wanted or offered items. Freecycle members also know to ?use ?group post email to create a new subject to the group to post taken or pending.. ?
We can't use ?.io freecycle groups otherwise ? Chat groups should have reply to group only. ?
From: Ro
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:06 AM
I am only asking for the CHOICE to make the click buttons active or not, not to change the availability for others who want both active.?? As a member of several IO groups, I am CONSTANTLY getting private emails from people to hit Reply to Sender by mistake, not understanding this doesnt take it to the group.?? People can always private email each other, nothing I am suggesting takes that away, or suggests there should not still be a setting for both buttons active.
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Re: Glitch in IO this evening
Hi Shal,
I finally got the member into the site, but she says if she signs out only way she can get back in is to ask to have link sent again.? However of 190 members she is only one who really has had issues so all in all not bad.?? I have tired to send them how to messages to where I would copy and pasted or made some thing similar to what they should see on their screens, highlighting where they should place information or click, which I think helped to many of them in.?
I tired the send link again a couple times after posting here and I still was getting that it had expired and it sending me back to send link page do I sent message to Help at IO.?
Dean
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