Blue bounce symbol

Bob Cook

One of my members is complaining about not getting emails. His provider is Cox.?
I looked and he had a blue B symbol, but the only error message I could find was a general message that it was a system error which I believe just means the message was delivered and I assume Cox rejected it.?
Note, other Cox.net users are not bouncing.?
How can I get a more detailed error report giving the rejection code?
How can I resolve this?
Any help/ideas appreciated.?
Thanks,
Bob

Re: Are owners/Moderators notified when someone resubscribes

#16401

Ken,

If a member uses the link sent to re -subscribe will owners/moderators
be notified ...Yes.

Subject: Subscriber has rejoined [email protected]

(Of course, naming the posting address of your group, rather than GMF)

so that we can put them on moderation or will they be given the same
privileges that they had before the SPAM filter unsubscribed them?Their subscription settings are retained, including Posting Privileges.

Shal


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Re: Moving between pages on member lists #membership #listmanagement #members

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Barry,

I've seen referenced here in the GMF a "beta group" but I'm not clear
whether group owners have access to that (or should/shouldn't have
access) or where it is?

It has unrestricted membership and public archives, much like GMF.

The real question behind the above is how we make platform suggestions
if those are wanted/valued?Beta is the official "suggestion box" for proposing & discussing improvements to Groups.io as a service. They are wanted and valued.


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Re: Searching a Members Previous Posts

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Brian,

Am I missing something in the screenshots?   I do not see where the
posterid number is obtained.It isn't evident, but clicking the "All Posts By This Member" link fills in that search parameter.

In rechecking, I find that a trimmed version of one of my own profile
URLs is:  
...  Is that my posterid on that group?No. Your posterid is the same in all groups.

The number on that URL is unique to your subscription in that group.

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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

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To answer davew,
I know much more about her than most group owners do about applicants prior to they are included in this group.?
We vet members thoroughly because of the sensitivity of personal info that is discussed.
Yes, I could call her by phone rather than correspond by email

My question had nothing to do with invasion of privacy, it was simply wanting to know if there was any way to define whether she was a member of any other group without even know what group.

You really shouldn't jump to conclusions without asking for enough info to make a judgement.

Shal, thank you for answering.? You can lock or delete this topic if you wish before it gets out of hand.
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Are owners/Moderators notified when someone resubscribes

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We had a member that was unsubscribed due to the SPAM filter and was rather upset over it. If a member uses the link sent to re -subscribe will owners/moderators be notified so that we can put them on moderation or will they be given the same privileges that they had before the SPAM filter unsubscribed them?

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Thanks,

Ken

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2Ch 7:14 “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

Brian Vogel

#16396

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:27 PM, Leeni wrote:

I ask them to list a few other groups that they are in along with some other questions.

And that's the way to go about it.? That gives the individual the option to offer or withhold, and that should be their choice.? ?Just as it should be a group owner's choice to accept/decline membership applications.
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Moving between pages on member lists #membership #listmanagement #members

#16395

This is a small thing but, as a new groups.io manager, just something I haven't yet come across. ?I've seen referenced here in the GMF a "beta group" but I'm not clear whether group owners have access to that (or should/shouldn't have access) or where it is? Did see a "public beta" group but with fewer than 70 members so I'm guessing that's not it.

The real question behind the above is how we make platform suggestions if those are wanted/valued? ?Maybe just here on the GMF and Shal or Bruce decide whether to send on to Mark?

My small thing which prompted this has to do with navigating a group membership list. More specifically, when looking at "Members" for a group, at lower right are the page numbers and obvious how one can click on whatever page or click through them to see the entirety of a list. ?But, to the left and right of a small range (maybe 5-8) page number options are single arrows which, if clicked, move one page left or right. ?I'd love to suggest the inclusion of double arrows at left and right of those single arrows to speed navigation. ?Clicking on one of those would bring you to the first or last page of a membership list versus just one page left or right. ?Screenshot attached.?

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Re: Searching a Members Previous Posts

Brian Vogel

#16394

In rechecking, I find that a trimmed version of one of my own profile URLs is:??
where that 109145 ends up being repeated at the end of the whole thing.? Is that my posterid on that group?

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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

Brian Vogel

#16393

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 07:38 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

I don't think you (a group admin) can find out whether someone is a member of other groups. That would be a kind of privacy bug if you could.

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That's putting it mildly.? ?If I were to find out that a random group admin on groups.io had the capability to nose around, at random, to see if I, or anyone else, were subscribed to another group that would be a deal breaker for me.

It is absolutely no one's business but my own what groups I might be a member of, particularly if I elect to keep my member profile non-public (which I don't, but it really is the principle of the thing).? That goes way beyond what any group admin should be able to do.
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Re: Searching a Members Previous Posts

Brian Vogel

#16392

Am I missing something in the screenshots?? ?I do not see where the posterid number is obtained.? Even looking at my own profile on the groups I moderate (and where I know I have "grand poobah" permissions) I am somehow not seeing posterid (and I checked the URL when in the profile, too).

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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

Leeni

#16391

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What I do in my groups............

Is the Pending Member?Application that they need to?fill out before they become a member, I ask them to list a few other groups that they are in along with some other questions.

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That worked out pretty good.

They won't get accepted if they don't send that application back.

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Leeni?

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Date: 4/25/2019 8:09:04 PM

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

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Duane,

Back in the dark ages (late '14, early '15) of , anyone could do that very thing.? When you clicked on someone's User Name (not Display Name) it would take you to their site profile page and showed all groups they were a member of.

Right, I'd forgotten about that.

But even so that was (I believe) a voluntary thing: a user would create a User Name specifically to allow other users to see their (account) profile and group memberships.

I'm sure there's some discussion about that on beta@ that got it changed.

As I recall, some group moderators were very much against allowing their group members to participate in that kind of "social network" function (there's that overreach thing again).

Shal

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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

#16390

Duane,

Back in the dark ages (late '14, early '15) of , anyone could do that very thing.? When you clicked on someone's User Name (not Display Name) it would take you to their site profile page and showed all groups they were a member of.

Right, I'd forgotten about that.

But even so that was (I believe) a voluntary thing: a user would create a User Name specifically to allow other users to see their (account) profile and group memberships.

I'm sure there's some discussion about that on beta@ that got it changed.

As I recall, some group moderators were very much against allowing their group members to participate in that kind of "social network" function (there's that overreach thing again).

Shal

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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 06:38 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

I don't think you (a group admin) can find out whether someone is a member of other groups.

Back in the dark ages (late '14, early '15) of groups.io, anyone could do that very thing.? When you clicked on someone's User Name (not Display Name) it would take you to their site profile page and showed all groups they were a member of.? I'm sure there's some discussion about that on beta@ that got it changed.

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Re: strange messages sent to old YG group #yahoo

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davew,

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Email spoofing (pretendinh it was you who sent it) / SPAM and SCAM trojan phishing is rife.

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Who said anything about spoofing? The messages I've received from QQ users are not spoofed. A bit misguided, maybe spammy (advertising), but not misleading.

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My own domain has been scanned and I'm getting hostage/ extortion emails. Luckily I can 'dispose' of these.

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Yeah, I've received some of those, as have my coworkers. Those are spoofed to be "From" oneself. The claims about my online behavior are crazy enough to clue me in that the sender has no actual knowledge of anything other than my email address. I guess they're hoping they'll scare some people into paying them.

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Every one [of these emails] should be sent (with full headers exposed) to the FTC care of ''.

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Too late now (for the one's I've received), but another good place to report actual spam / abuse is but they don't take messages that have been forwarded (as in messages to a group or group+owner), only those that arrive directly to your email.

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Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

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Davew,

Actually Shal I'd say it would be an offense!

I think it would rise to that level only if one could identify which other group(s). I think Bob meant "one or more other groups" without identifying specific groups. However, even that would be a (much more minor) privacy leak.

The question at hand revolved around whether the applicant could have already set up a Groups.io account (and password). The answer to that is "yes, without regard to having joined any other groups".

I'm horrified by 'some' of the invasive demands 'some' group owners make for features.

[mod note: IMO the OP made no such request.]

In the case at hand I (the mod) think you've construed way to much into Bob's question.

As a general statement I concur that some of the suggestions I've read in strike me as attempts at overreach / micromanagement by the group owners.

Shal

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Re: Searching a Members Previous Posts

dave w

#16386

Yes always works for me ;-) :
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Re: strange messages sent to old YG group #yahoo

dave w

#16385

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 03:45 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

He/She claimed to be unaware of how he/she became a member of the group, and I am still puzzled because I never found the expected Activity Log entries for his/her joining. At any rate, I've chalked up the incident as "mostly harmless".

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Shal

Email spoofing (pretendinh it was you who sent it) / SPAM and SCAM trojan phishing is rife. My own domain has been scanned and I'm getting hostage/ extortion emails. Luckily I can 'dispose' of these.

Every one [of these emails] should be sent (with full headers exposed) to the FTC care of 'spam_at_uce.gov'.
u-c-e for the novice is the acronym for UNsolicited Commercial Email. (They do not respond by the way- this is simply a 'collector' address).

Trashing and bouncing at the mail system IS the most effective control. Banning the IP of the sender ISP should be considered to avoid having to deal with the emails at all.
regards davew

Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

dave w

#16384

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

I don't think you (a group admin) can find out whether someone is a member of other groups. That would be a kind of privacy bug if you could.

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Actually Shal I'd say it would be an offense!
I know this is a 'genuine' help issue rquest, but that option would open up to much more [potentially] malicious actions.
I'm horrified by 'some' of the invasive demands 'some' group owners make for features.
The OP should sort it out by using email/ pics/ links etc.
davew

[mod note: IMO the OP made no such request.]

Re: Is there a way to find out if someone is already subscribed to a different group

#16383

Bob,

But she insists that she "went and got a login and password and when she tried to get into the group"

She may have.

and said she was "taken back to the form she had already filled out"

I'm not sure what form she means, perhaps her Subscription form for your group (if she became a Pending member)?

Is there a way to verify if she was already in another group or can anyone just go and set up a login and password for ?

One can set up a Groups.io account without being in the join flow for any groups. Just going to the site's home page and using the Sign Up link will accomplish that.

I don't think you (a group admin) can find out whether someone is a member of other groups. That would be a kind of privacy bug if you could.

Shal

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