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Re: New file upload message

 

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Back in my Y days of moderation that has carried over to Groups.io, I used to get a notification of a file upload (with the name of the file), but I don¡¯t know or remember if any of the members got the notification too. In our group¡¯s case uploaded files were done mainly to add to our library of the knowledge, or for members to add photos to their photo albums. Uploading files or photos wasn¡¯t meant to start a discussion, unless the member that did the upload also sent a post to the group about the upload.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy W
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 1:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] New file upload message

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Hi Shal,

I think what you want to suggest (on beta) is that these notifications always be treated as a New Topic.

I wanted to see if anyone had any other thoughts before posting on Beta.? I did think about having the filename as part of the subject but some filename could be long and I find that long message subjects are not always well presented on some displays like mobile devices.? For my own purposes, having the ability to add a hashtag would be great.? I'll move this over to beta now.

Thanks
Andy


#question about copying #question #subgroups

 

Hello! I am assuming it is not possible, but I am giving this a go just in case! We create different subgroups for each of our events and it would save me a ton of time if I could make a copy of a subgroup and then just tweak the subgroup name and email instead of setting each up from scratch each time. I would love if hashtags, wikis, settings (incl member notices), were all copied over to a new subgroup.

OR, if this is not possible, is it possible to create a subgroup template? Again, probably not, but figured I would ask.?

If none of this is possible, how do I go about making recommendations to Groups.io for this kind of functionality?

Thank you for your help!


Merge messages to account #howto

 

Do you have a idea to do?
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Re: New file upload message

 

Hi Shal,
I think what you want to suggest (on beta) is that these notifications always be treated as a New Topic.
I wanted to see if anyone had any other thoughts before posting on Beta.? I did think about having the filename as part of the subject but some filename could be long and I find that long message subjects are not always well presented on some displays like mobile devices.? For my own purposes, having the ability to add a hashtag would be great.? I'll move this over to beta now.

Thanks
Andy


Re: Hi everyone a few ?s

 

On 2019/04/11 05:26 AM, Debbie via Groups.Io wrote:

1. Does anyone know how or can we even do this..Make sure members that are on either special notice or no mail stop them from seeing the mail and not let them download anything that was sent. I see it this way if your gone no right for you to get gooides..
I'm no expert, and just thinking out loud, but: if you have a lot of
such "sleeping" members, and you want to distinguish between them,
couldn't you create a subgroup that is reserved for "non-sleeping"
members, set all members of the main group to "nomail" (or "special
notice"), and set all members of the subgroup to "individual mails?"

3. I am looking for a place where I can get some awesome Headers to
use for my groups, do not know of any.
Google for word+art+generator.

Samuel


Re: Hi everyone a few ?s

 

Debbie,

1. Does anyone know how or can we even do this..Make sure members that
are on either special notice or no mail stop them from seeing the mail
and not let them download anything that was sent.
There is no way to do that.

Groups.io is designed to allow group members to participate by web or email, either or both, member's choice. You (a group moderator) cannot close off either option.

You could delete messages as they post, so that there's nothing for web users to see. But that's basically circumventing the intent of the service.

2.Is there a way to hide your alias , I mean why does all these owners
I am on groups with that need to see all my names..?
I'm not sure what you mean by "alias". There are two forms of identification associated with each of your group subscriptions. One is your email address, the other is your Display Name.

There is no way to prevent group owners from knowing your email address. Nor even to prevent it from being sent to other group members with each message you post.

Your Display Name is under your control: you can set it to anything you want in any group, even different things in different groups. You can edit your Display name through your Profile page, available through the Subscription page in individual groups, or you can see them all in your account pages.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts

Another thing I am in groups with Paint Shop and I am looking for a
place where I can get some awesome Headers to use for my groups do not
know of any..
I don't know what you mean by "Headers", maybe another GMF member can help you with that. Or you may need to find a group for Paint Shop users.

Shal


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Hi everyone a few ?s

Debbie
 

First off I hope your all having a good day / night..

1. Does anyone know how or can we even do this..Make sure members that are on either special notice or no mail stop them from seeing the mail and not let them download anything that was sent. I see it this way if your gone no right for you to get gooides..

2.Is there a way to hide your alias , I mean why does all these owners I am on groups with that need to see all my names..?

Another thing I am in groups with Paint Shop and I am looking for a place where I can get some awesome Headers to use for my groups do not know of any.. Lately people want to be so snotty about things lol.. Let me know please I am not sure if this is a place that can help me ..

Debbie


Re: New file upload message

 

Andy,

No such message was sent and I found that all file uploads trigger the
same notification message subject and the fact that I locked the first
one prevented the second one from being sent.
I think what you want to suggest (on beta) is that these notifications always be treated as a New Topic.

I don't know if you want to also suggest that the Subject text be made unique somehow, but that doesn't matter as much as having it be a new topic irrespective of the Subject match.

The obvious thought for making the Subject unique would be to include the file name.

Shal



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Re: Banned domains?

 

Andy,

I've added a link to the Group Subscription section of the main Wiki
page to a new Banned Domains
Thanks for that page, it looks great!

On the home page I moved the link under the Group Management major section, Member Management subsection, as it isn't a function for members to use.

Shal


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Re: Table border not saved on wiki

 

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 09:28 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
The code that saves the edited page deliberately strips many HTML tags and parameters. Same for the message editor. Same for the code that processes an incoming email message for display.
Yep. Very aware of that.

I'm not sure what that code looks like, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it is structured as a "whitelist" of things to allow. That's about the only reasonably safe way to handle user-supplied HTML code. Otherwise you run the risk of some clever crook figuring out a code sequence to exploit your web site and/or its users.
Surely javascript, iframes, forms and such can be problematical. But -- with full acknowledgment that I'm not as clever the crooks -- I do struggle with seemingly benign inline styles.?

I am grateful to Tom for providing that bootstrap web site URL. Slogging through the style sheet itself to find what you want is a chore...even more so when minimized.

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Re: Hey, I accidently deleted myself (owner) #howto

 

Joseph,

... and deleted myself as well as the other two owners.
As Duane said, the system prevents you from deleting all of the Owners (or at least, it is supposed to).

what is the best way to restore my permissions to reset the group? Add
everyone back?
Yes. You, or whichever owner is left standing should add back the others. I don't think there is a way to recover the Subscription settings those owners had, other than remembering them.

Shal


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Re: Table border not saved on wiki

 

Bruce,

If you do figure out what's going on please report back.
The code that saves the edited page deliberately strips many HTML tags and parameters. Same for the message editor. Same for the code that processes an incoming email message for display.

I'm not sure what that code looks like, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it is structured as a "whitelist" of things to allow. That's about the only reasonably safe way to handle user-supplied HTML code. Otherwise you run the risk of some clever crook figuring out a code sequence to exploit your web site and/or its users.

Shal


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Re: Banned domains?

 

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 05:22 PM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:
isn¡¯t this a dangerous option to use?
Only if used indiscriminately or by someone that doesn't understand it.? It's intended to be used to head off domains that are known spam havens.? Mark even has a few that apply to the entire site.

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Re: Is there any way that a group member can hide their email address but not their name when posting?

 

Michael,


I would very much like to see this as an option.?... So if possible please put it higher on the wishes list.

To bump this up you'll need to suggest it in the . No one from Groups.io monitors GMF, we're strictly user-to-user.

The topic I cited is now locked so you won't be able to reply to it. But nothing stops you from creating a new topic with the same or similar Subject line. It might be useful for you to cite that old topic, as well as the Trello link, just to save the readers of beta from trying to look those up for you. And so they know that you don't need to have the old arguments re-hashed.


? Many in my group do not want their actual email address divulged when they do a posting. ...
? Some who should be in my group refuse to join over this issue?

I presume they are aware that their email address is divulged only to fellow group members who receive group messages by individual email. That is, it is not divulged on the group's web pages (except to group moderators).

On a more short-term basis, perhaps they could be convinced to create an email account at the email service of their choice, and not provide any personal identifiers in the address or name of that account. That would allow them to post without revealing their "real" email address.

Granted it is a little inconvenient to manage a second email address just for this purpose, but most email desktop or mobile apps make it pretty simple to manage two or more email addresses from the same user interface. Some webail platforms (such as Gmail) handle this well also.

Shal


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Re: Is there any way that a group member can hide their email address but not their name when posting?

 

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 06:13 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
John,

> ... a moderator asked me if there is any way that a group member can
> hide his email address but not his name when posting?



There was considerable discussion, some time ago, in the beta@ group
about having anonymous groups - where no member's address would be seen
or forwarded to any other member (only moderators would see them in the
Members list).


The idea was controversial and hasn't been acted on. I haven't seen
anything about them this year. It is on the to-do list though:


Shal
I would very much like to see this as an option.? Many in my group do not want their actual email address divulged when they do a posting.? So if possible please put it higher on the wishes list.? Some who should be in my group refuse to join over this issue


Re: Banned domains?

 

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Andy,

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Since Group.io owners and moderators can never know what a new subscriber¡¯s email address will be isn¡¯t this a dangerous option to use? Example; Banned Domains = gmail.com., yahoo.com

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Don

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Re: Table border not saved on wiki

Tom Esker
 

Ha!? Great idea about using Bootstrap.? I added a bootstrap class to the page source like this:

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<table class="table table-bordered">

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¡­using guidelines here

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Initially I also added a link to the boostrap CSS file but that line got stripped out ¨C but it worked anyway!

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So apparently groups.io has a behind the scenes link to boostrap someplace so that bootstrap classes work.

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BTW I did try border=¡±1¡± but it also got stripped out.

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Re: Table border not saved on wiki

 

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 04:14 PM, Tom Esker wrote:
Does anyone know how to get the table border lines to save on the wiki?
Tom -- Unfortunately, the groups.io wiki editor strips many inline styles. Equally unfathomable, deprecated, non-CSS constructs like <table border="1"> and <img align="right"> seem to survive the edit/save process.

I was told some months ago that groups.io itself uses the bootstrap.css style sheet (found in the files area here) in some manner; but even then, the classes I've pulled from there and tried to apply to wiki pages have been very hit-and-miss.

If you do figure out what's going on please report back.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Hey, I accidently deleted myself (owner) #howto

 

You'll need to get another owner to add/invite you, then you can do the rest.? It shouldn't have allowed you to delete the last owner account.? That would be a bug that you need to report to [email protected] with as many details as you can provide.

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Table border not saved on wiki

Tom Esker
 

I copied and pasted a simple Google Sheet (no formulas ¨C just text) to create a new wiki page.? Then I went to table properties and set the border to ¡°1¡±,? ¡°sold¡± and ¡°black.¡±? All looked as expected until I saved - and then the border lines are gone.

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I looked at the source and copied the line:

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<table dir="ltr" style="border-color: #000000; border-style: solid;" border="1">

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And made a new test page using that line followed by a couple rows and then closed the table.? In the editor and previewed everything looks as expected but after saving, the border lines are gone.

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Does anyone know how to get the table border lines to save on the wiki?

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