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Received from Shal Farley at 4/4/2019 11:57 PM UTC:

I'm thinking it would be a very good idea if the answer to this repetitive ... question were contained within the message sent to an Owner/Moderator who invites "too many" people at once.

But back to your suggestion - I know you know where the suggestion box is and how to use it.

Indeed, and I'll be glad to make a suggestion there... but I don't think I've ever seen the full notice given when "too many" people are invited to a group. Is it a banner seen on-line following inviting "too many" or is it an emailed notice? Could someone who has a copy either post it here or directly to me?

Thank you.

Jim H

I too am having group member invitations not be received.? I sent out 4 of them and 2 of them said they did not receive the invitations although regular email to those same addresses seem to work.? I have sent duplicate invites to the two who said they didn't get it and so far no indication they received it.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 06:07 PM, Jacqueline Serafin wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a way to have a calendar feed no longer be available to a subgroup member after they are removed from the group?

Check your Calendar settings for the subgroup.? The settings for a subgroup are pretty much independent of those for the main group.
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Short answer, Idunno, but actually is this an interesting question is a couple of contexts..
Scenario 1:? BobbySue not wanting the cal anymore if she self-unsubscribes from List-A.
Scenario 2:? BobbySue has been removed from a list by the owner/moderator for whatever reason and should also immediately be unsubscribed from the List-A cal for a very good reason.

Either example could have significant implications if it is a sensitive list, but in the second case I could see that being a big issue for a security or governing board list for example.
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I always send from my own email address as most of my list members aren't very savvy, so might not know the list owner address is me, but they all know my private email address. In addition, I don't use the groups.io web interface any more than I have to :)

So far, no bounces, or responses, from the private emails I sent - if those emails were just recently added to the bounce list. (However, I only sent those private messages yesterday evening, so they might have been received but not responded to yet.) I have one yahoo address that's been bouncing for a while with the same message of the mailbox being disabled, and my private message to her also bounced.

Holly

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 12:52 PM, Holly wrote:

So maybe Yahoo is blacklisting groups.io in a different way?

An interesting thought! As chance would have it we both had related posts in the moderation queue at the same time; you have possibly read it already but in case you haven't see this post on the subject of recent "bulk" additions to the Yahoo bounce list.?

I would sincerely hope that this isn't a case of "hostile action" on the part of Yahoo but if private messages from you aren't being bounced it certainly constitutes grounds for suspicion.

Perhaps more to the point have you had responses to your messages, or just "no bounces"? And have those private messages been via Groups.io or from your own email address?

Chris

I hope a moderator sees this amendment :)

I'm not getting bounces from the PRIVATE messages sent to at least two members so far, though the bounce from the groups.io bounce probe was practically instantaneous. So maybe Yahoo is blacklisting groups.io in a different way?

I hope this won't be considered off-topic as it has more to do with Yahoo's internal issues than groups.io. Please feel free to boot it off the list :)

I'm still working on bounces and have had quite a few additional Yahoo addresses added to it just since yesterday. My process is to email the address privately - and usually that gets through regardless of the domain that's bouncing - explaining that I'll be sending a bounce probe shortly, what email address it's coming from, the subject line, and how/why to respond (I created a template this morning to make that easier). I go to this trouble because many of my group's members aren't all that tech savvy, but we value their membership as they are savvy in the group's area of interest. In many cases, I get a response back from the member.

But in some cases I've been getting this error code from some of the Yahoo bounces: This mailbox is disabled (554.30). Shal said "let 'em go" in an earlier email on this error message. However, though my research says those accounts with such a message have been deleted because the person hasn't used it in more than a year, and in at least one case, I know that's not true - I have an email from that member, sent to me privately from the subscribed email address, in my inbox from less than a year ago.

Again, I know this is a Yahoo/Verizon problem, not groups.io, but if anyone has suggestions on how to deal with it other than calling all the people with this issue, I'd appreciate it. You can email me privately at <holly@...>

Thanks,

Holly

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:24 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

It seems that Yahoo is doing some spring cleaning of dormant accounts, and that's the message you get for accounts that have been disabled.


As some have mentioned in beta, clearing out accounts that haven't been signed in for over a year has been a longstanding policy at Yahoo, but only intermittently enforced.

I know this thread is a bit "elderly" but I spotted the other day that there appeared to be a lot of Yahoo addresses listed as Bouncing in the Activity Log of the group I moderate. A bit more investigation has revealed the following.

• The group in question has 742 members with Yahoo addresses listed.
• The group has a total of 256 members listed as bouncing
• Of those 256, 184 have Yahoo addresses
• Last time I checked (quite some time ago) there were just over 100 addresses bouncing, but I did not investigate further at the time
• The bulk addition to the (Yahoo) bouncing list seems to have occurred over the period 16th - 22nd March. I haven't counted them but there are defintely over 100 of them, with occasional other email addresses listed as well.
• Over the same time period there were about 15 "Unbounced" members, but there were no Yahoo addresses listed amongst them

So I strongly suspect that Shal's?It seems that Yahoo is doing some spring cleaning of dormant accounts is right on the button.

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Received from Shal Farley at 4/3/2019 09:22 PM UTC:

As an anti-spam measure, your invitation list will be reviewed and (presumably) approved by Groups.io. It may take a few hours for that to happen, maybe days but not usually that long.

I'm thinking it would be a very good idea if the answer to this repetitive (an aptly descriptive word, not a criticism) question were contained within the message sent to an Owner/Moderator who invites "too many" people at once.

That approach should eliminate the regularly expressed confusion over this situation.

Jim H

I'd tried to mitigate that possibility by ensuring the erols domain was receiving and sending standard email properly, which it did, from/to different sending email addresses. But maybe something to do with the groups.io interface with RCN. ?Will try again tomorrow.

Many thanks, Bruce!
Barry

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 03:04 PM, Barry Winer wrote:

One other, probably related, issue with my test group. ?I also had the same aspiring subscriber (the same one for whom the invite failed due to messaging limit) send a request to subscribe using the format <[email protected]>. ?But, after 30 minutes or so, I (as the group owner) didn't receive that request either. ?

Based on the 400-level error code, this seems more likely to be a temporary problem with the erols/RCN email server. At this time my own provider's nameserver cannot resolve erols.com into an IP address. Try again tomorrow?
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Thanks, Chris, that was easy and fast and effective and well, duh, why didn't I think of it :)

Holly

And, of course, many thanks for any guidance!

One other, probably related, issue with my test group. ?I also had the same aspiring subscriber (the same one for whom the invite failed due to messaging limit) send a request to subscribe using the format <[email protected]>. ?But, after 30 minutes or so, I (as the group owner) didn't receive that request either. ?

Maybe this is all related to a setting I've neglected with setup?

Thanks again!

Hello,

I'm new to groups.io, have some experience running a group on yahoo and am reasonably tech savvy (though certainly not expert!).

Anyway, problem as follows.

- created a test group to test all the functionality with a small group of subscribers and before upgrading (which we'll do shortly so we can direct add new subscribers)
- sent an invite to a correct email address while I had that recipient on the phone so we waiting 15-20 minutes and she never got the invite
- confirmed the address to which the invite was sent was correct
- confirmed that recipient address was functional by sending a normal email to it (which worked quickly and normally so was received)
- did get an error message in my "sent invitations" about exceeding my "messaging limit" but that seems off since it was my first invite and I'd only made 2-3 test posts in the group at that point, as its only subscriber and owner

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On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 04:54 PM, Holly wrote:

I was wondering whether there's a way to sort member emails by their domains.

Not "officially" there isn't, but if you go to your members list and enter the domain in the Search box and click on Search then all the members using that will be listed. For the group I moderate that method has just revealed that we have 742 members with Yahoo email addresses of one sort or another. Several are listed as Bouncing. :)

Chris

I was wondering whether there's a way to sort member emails by their domains. I have some bouncing Yahoo members and still some Charter members. I would like to sort by domains in order to see if any other members have those domains but are not bouncing.

TIA,

Holly