On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 06:30 AM, Sheryl Chuang wrote:

Any help would be appreciated.

I cannot claim to be an expert on Subgroups but there is one point that I have checked on a test group run by another member of this forum, just to be certain that Subgroup behaviour is the same as "main group".?

You want non - subscribers to be able to post unmoderated, but the bit of guidance under the Allow Non Subscribers to Post checkbox is perfectly clear:?

Posts by non-subscribers will be moderated, instead of rejected. (my bold / underlining)

What you are looking for is simply not there to be had, however much you might wish it to be. You could always ask Mark to consider the option (not here, but on the beta group) but I would very much doubt if he would consider providing it; the requirement for moderation of non - subscibers is there for a reason that ought to be obvious. I might add that if you were to make any such request you would find that it would be vigorously opposed by most if not even all of the other members of that group, and I doubt if you would find much, if any, support for it here (GMF) either.

Allowing non - subscibers to post unmoderated could / would be like opening Pandora's Box, or a can of worms if you prefer!

Chris

Hi. I'm new to groups.io. I've been using it for about a month and everything was working fine until I tried to create a subgroup.

I tried searching for answers and switched some settings but it's still not working like I expected.

This is what I want to do not sure if it's possible or use the no-reply option instead.

• The main group is private and requires subscription
• In the subgroup, non-subscribers are allowed to post without requiring message approval. Every time I try to send an email from a different address, it says message requires approval which I don't want

Basically I want the 2 groups separated. The primary group is for my team's communications and the subgroup is more of a contact us allowing non-subscribers to send messages to us and then we reply.

Is the no-reply option better under Integrations a better solution than using the subgroup? Sorry if my explanation is a little confusing.

These are my settings:

Main:

Visibility Group:

• Group listed in directed private messages
• Membership is restricted

Message Policies:

• Nothing selected

Subgroup:

Visibility

• Group not listed in Parent group, messages viewable by subgroup members

Message Policies:

• Allow Non-subscribers to post (requires message approval but don't want them to be approved)
• Allow Parent subscribers to post

I've tried adjusting settings on both groups and it's still not right.?Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Sheryl

Did you ever get a resolution ? Our footer shows "View/Reply Online (#1102)?|?Reply To Group?|?Reply To Sender?|?Mute This Topic?|?New Topic" for some emails but not for others. I see the links in initial posts to the listserve and in replies, but also missing in some of each. Very odd.

Jud,

Wouldn't it be better if when someone applies for membership without
using an invite, and there is a pending invite for that same person,
the request be handled the same way it is for a invite acceptance?

Not exactly.

Their response to an invitation does two things: 1) it confirms their email address, and 2) it joins them to your group membership.

An emailed +subscribe command does not satisfy (1) because the sender may have spoofed the From address. Likewise, clicking on the web "Request" button, if not logged into the site, and then typing that email address into the site could be done by someone other than the owner of that email address.

So that leaves only the case of a web-based request, made by someone logged into Groups.io with a confirmed email address. That might be a minority of the cases you see.

In the other cases it would be a bad idea to consider the pending invitation as "accepted" - that might "lock out" the actual owner of that email address (until you send them a fresh invitation). Even if it doesn't they would still need to actually accept the invitation, or respond to an address confirmation request, before NC status could be removed from their membership. Or, if your group is Premium you could manually confirm their address.

See this wiki article for more information about NC status of members:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

Shal


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Darren,

Can I delete the Primary group or replace it with one of the
Subgroups?

No.

You can delete the subgroup, but there is at present no ability to transfer content from the subgroup to the primary group (or vice-versa, or between subgroups), so you'd be abandoning that content.

I set up the primary Group to be used for non-members to communicate
with the club but I am finding that the primary group is not being
used very often. ... The Primary Group seems to cause a lot of
confusion for our members who sometimes post to the Primary instead of
the Subgroup.

What name did you give the Primary group, or did you leave it as the default "main"?

If you left it as "main" that probably doesn't give your members enough guidance. Consider renaming it to something that fits its purpose. "Front-Porch" might be a bit too long, maybe just "Porch", but you get the idea. A name that will suggest to members that it is not the actual "clubhouse".

The other option is to just cave in to usage, and start using the primary group for club communication, perhaps renaming the subgroup to "archive" or something to indicate that it is no longer "the" place.

Be aware though that any of these renames will have some impact on members (and interested non-members) in that if they've made bookmarks or address book entries those will need to be updated. Likewise their browser/email interface auto-complete functions will retain the old names for a while. As well as replies to prior messages.

And of course links on your website and social media.

Shal


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Update: Mark has fixed the bug. Yay!

Lily

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 03:44 AM, Duane wrote:

The only limitation is that infinite scroll doesn't necessarily work on all types of pages such as databases.

Yes, you are right... The infinite scroll option showed only 20 sent invitations per page whereas 100 per page option worked correctly...
Thanks a lot?...You saved my day...

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 04:36 PM, Akshaya January Owners Group admin wrote:

I go to the send invitations page which loads around 20 invites per page

You can go to your account, at the upper right, then go to the Preferences page.? Near the bottom, you can select how many items per page are shown - 20, 50, 100, or infinite scroll.? The only limitation is that infinite scroll doesn't necessarily work on all types of pages such as databases.? I've found that 50 per page is my choice.

For any suggestion, such as this, it would need to be posted on the beta group (the official suggestion box for the site) to be considered.? No one from Groups.io management monitors this group.

Duane
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Wow... You have asked exactly the same question what I thought of asking...

Mine is a larger group with a size of around 900 members. Think of the pain in doing this process for all those invites which are sent but 100s of users request to subscribe via online... Definitely, the best way to handle would be to automatically approve the request...

Contrarily, if the user requests via a new email id and wants to remove the invite sent to old email id, I go to the send invitations page which loads around 20 invites per page and then I have to scroll 10 to 15 times in order to find and remove the invites that are already sent. There should be a search option here to select the invite.

Balaji

Can I delete the Primary group or replace it with one of the Subgroups?

I have a small Group set up for members of a model railroad club.? The club members use one of the Subgroups to communicate between ourselves.? I set up the primary Group to be used for non-members to communicate with the club but I am finding that the primary group is not being used very often.? Non members find us through our website or through Facebook.? The Primary Group seems to cause a lot of confusion for our members who sometimes post to the Primary instead of the Subgroup.?

I would just as soon delete the Primary Group and set the Subgroup up as the Primary. If someone could tell me how to do this it would be greatly appreciated.

Darren Voorhees
North Metro Model Railroad Club

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Thanks, Shal, for confirming my observation. I will report it.

Lily

Hi - new group owner here, be gentle ..
Use case:
I invite someone to join the group?
A day or two later I look at pending invites and see they have not accepted
The invited user doesn't use the invite, but requests to subscribe via email or on-line form
I get a notice that there is a new subscriber that needs approval.
Now I need to see if it someone that should be in the group and approve them, then go to the invites pending and remove the invite.

Wouldn't it be better if when someone applies for membership without using an invite, and there is a pending invite for that same person, the request be handled the same way it is for a invite acceptance?
i.e - the request is automatically approved and the invite is changed from pending to accepted.
- Jud

This morning, I have 8 of 20 bouncing yahoo addresses. I found this:

and within, this:

Now puzzling what to do about it.

Brent at bgrly@...

Never mind my question about your issue. I am assuming it is what you pointed out in the beta group. I think that is probably something that Mark just missed.



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Gerald

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 06:31 AM, Jeremy Harrison wrote:

I'm afraid I don't regard that as a complete fix to the problem, merely a change to make the issue liveable with for many if not most people. But it means that you go to the last used, not any specific, 'home page'.

Jeremy

Jeremy,

Could you explain what you are referring to as a complete fix?
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Gerald

I'm afraid I don't regard that as a complete fix to the problem, merely a change to make the issue liveable with for many if not most people. But it means that you go to the last used, not any specific, 'home page'.

Jeremy

Don,

What is the feed page?

Click on the Groups.io logo while logged in to the site. If that doesn't bring you to Your Feed, click the Feed button in the left column.

It is a list of summaries, one summary per group (your subscriptions), with the groups sorted in order of most recent activity first.

Shal


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Mark has reverted the change!? ? I think maybe the most recent complaint made it clear that it would be better this way.

Duane
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