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Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: New /feed page for testing.


Kind of a list of activity summaries, organized by group. Distinct from the groups.io home page, which has a list of one's groups, or the /topics page which shows messages from all of your subscriptions in a single list.
/topics


CHANGE: Wording change in bounce probe message.
Thanks Samuel, assuming you reported it to support:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/30282958


BUGFIX: 'Save and send to group' didn't work for a moderator editing a
message in a subgroup.
Oh! So the bug was in a subgroup. No one guessed it would be subgroup versus primary group that made the difference.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/30291652


Comments about these are welcome:

SYSADMIN: Switched to using our own DNS resolver/cache because
Linode's DNS resolver stopped working for some domains.
API: Misc updates.
NEW: For cancelled events, include them in the ICS feeds, but set
their status to CANCELLED.
CHANGE: When viewing an event with an RSVP, don't display the cancel
event button if no one has RSVPed yet.
NEW: Added an addition Italian language quote separator.
CHANGE: Default calendar view on mobile is now the list view.
NEW: Add an additional French language quote separator.
NEW: When viewing topics/searching by hashtag, show the hashtag
description at the top of the page.
NEW: Added subgroupnames parameter to the /directadd API endpoint, to
compliment the subgroupids parameter.
BUGFIX: When using the /directadd API endpoint, the wrong domain was
used when composing the direct add notification emails.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: question about archive visibility #question #archive

 

Su,

My confusion is from the fact that un-approved members are listed as
having "joined" on the dates that they pressed the "+Join the group"
button.
If you have un-approved members then your group must be set to Restricted Membership. In which case the button on your group's home page should read "Apply For Membership in This Group", not "Join the Group".

Does this mean that they can already view the message archives, but
cannot post? Or is a member only able to view them after being
approved? I have assumed it is the latter. Hope I'm right.
It is the latter. In particular I believe that pending members have the same access as public (non-members).

However, your question suggests that the date column on that list ought to have the heading "Applied" not "Joined".


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question about archive visibility #question #archive

 

My group has it's settings set to "?Archives are visible to subscribers only."

My confusion is from the fact that un-approved members are listed as having "joined" on the dates that they pressed the "+Join the group" button.

Does this mean that they can already view the message archives, but cannot post? Or is a member only able to view them after being approved? I have assumed it is the latter. Hope I'm right.

Thanks,
Su


Re: PDF files as attachements

 

You should be able to attach any type of file, with the possible exception of exe or other executables.? When reading online, there will be a link for it.? We're not sure exactly where it is stored and there doesn't seem to be another way to get to them.

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PDF files as attachements

 

Is it possible to have a pdf file as an attachment to a message to a group? If so, where can it be found please?

Margaret


Re: Wellcome messagel

 

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 09:55 AM, Dario Gabrielli wrote:
Is it possible when I approve a person to be a member of my group send to him.an automatic wellcome message ?
Go to Admin>Settings and click the "Member Notices" button at the top of the page. Create a new notice of type Welcome and make it Active.

See?/static/help#membernotices?

Hope this helps,
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Wellcome messagel

Dario Gabrielli
 

Is it possible when I approve a person to be a member of my group send to him.an automatic wellcome message ?

Dario

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Re: File renaming

 

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 08:56 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Yeah, ghosts. :D
As best I can tell, if the attachment is sent via the web interface, they are converted to underscores. If sent via email, the hyphens are retained.

I guess I'll just have to keep watching for it and renaming them when necessary.
I will report this to support as a bug, but you may have to continue doing the above as a workaround for awhile.
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Re: File renaming

 

Heh. Yeah, ghosts. :D I guess I'll just have to keep watching for it and renaming them when necessary.

Thanks,
Mike


Re: Error when I send the invitation

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 06:24 PM, Dario Gabrielli wrote:
the error Deferred 421 [mail] service not available too busy appears
This means that groups.io will try again later.? At some point, the invitation will either be delivered or rejected by the email service at the other end.

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Re: Error when I send the invitation

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Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:23:13 AM
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Subject: [GMF] Error when I send the invitation
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My name is Dario and I am the only moderator of a group. When I send the invitation to subscribe in the group the system send the message (I think) but the error Deferred 421 [mail] service not available too busy appears, whats the meaning ? For you people that I sent the invitation to subscribe in my group has received it ?
Dario

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Error when I send the invitation

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My name is Dario and I am the only moderator of a group. When I send the invitation to subscribe in the group the system send the message (I think) but the error Deferred 421 [mail] service not available too busy appears, whats the meaning ? For you people that I sent the invitation to subscribe in my group has received it ?
Dario

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Re: File renaming

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 07:05 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
So, I have to agree that it sometimes does change the character from a hyphen to an underscore, although I don't know why the same jpg file worked OK in another group and not in this case.
It isn't even consistent within a group. See recent?GMF message #15445, in which the hyphens in the attached filename seem to have come through intact.

Ghosts in the machine?? :-)

Bruce
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Re: File renaming

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 12:52 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 02:12 AM, Mike Lease wrote:
Hello,

I run a couple of groups for baseball leagues, using APBA's Baseball for Windows. When people attach files, apparently some (though not all?) are getting renamed in a way that makes the software not recognize them as BBW files. The file names are in the format "C-[name].LPF" and "F-[name].LPF". The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_"), and this causes the software to ignore that when I try to load Commissioner or Franchise files. If I catch it when I save the attached files, I can rename them to the right format, but if I don't, I may think that someone has failed to send me a file at all. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks,
Mike

Finally, we come?to something more directly related to your issue. This message is being posted using the web UI. The online File upload UI does convert the hyphen to an underscore, but only in the UI. The file is saved with the correct hyphen character in it. At least it did when I first tried this as a test. This graphic file showing the behavior in a previous test should be named?Hyphen-Test.jpg.
Mike,

On further review,?it seems that I have reproduced what you have noticed. It has been pointed out to me that this time, the file shows up in the GMF group with the hyphen changed to an underscore. I don't get emails from this group, so I don't know how the filename appears in an email client.

So, I have to agree that it sometimes does change the character from a hyphen to an underscore, although I don't know why the same jpg file worked OK in another group and not in this case.

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Re: Attachments on calendar invites

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 03:16 PM, Andy W wrote:
I figured it's not used anymore.
It is a bit behind.? Mark has been trying to find a way to keep us up to date, but not use much of the time he could spend programming.? He even asked for suggestions on beta@ awhile back.

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Re: On website page, allow customization of number of rows #suggestion

 

Actually, you have the options of 20, 50, 100, or infinite scroll.? (Infinite Scroll doesn't work on all items/pages, such as a Database.)? Go to your Account by clicking on your name at the upper right, then select the Preferences page.? The setting is near the bottom of the page.

BTW, this is a user-to-user group.? Suggestions should be made on the beta group.

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Re: Calendar Cancellations Not Sending Updates #calendar #issue

 

Hi Bruce,


On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 06:08 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Kenny -- These two statements strike me as mutually exclusive. Did you wait a few hours for the subscribed calendar to update? Such updates are subject to a polling schedule and do not occur in real time.
I learned about the polling issue in a different thread. ;-)? Having learned about that, rather than waiting for a poll I have verified this by both forcing updates from a confluence subscription and also from deleting the subscription and re-subscribing via g-cal.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Kenny Paul wrote:
Suggested work-around(s)??
You may just have to get into the habit of deleting cancelled events instead of using the GIO "cancel" function, in concert with a manual notification. The option also exists to edit the event description to anything you feel would provide adequate notification that it isn't going to occur.
I am in the habit of deleting event. Let's just say that my repeated attempts at educating my large audience to also following that practice hasn't yielded much result when they are looking at a big fat "Cancel" button. :-(

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Re: Attachments on calendar invites

 

Hi Duane,

that could be it.? In the message composition area when creating a calendar event there is no option to insert an image or attach a file.

I've looked at that Trello board before but everything I've looked at seemed to have 2015 & 2016 dates.? I figured it's not used anymore.

Andy


On website page, allow customization of number of rows #suggestion

 

For Messages and Members, it's laborious to page through screens.? It
would help if there was some customization of the number of visible rows.

The existing build allows 20 rows (see attached screenshot). With the
Web 2.0 habit of scrolling, I suggest you permit a user to specify a
larger number of rows to display.

Just as an aside, I've been very pleased with the smooth transition from
Yahoo Groups to Groups.io.? Judging by the number of questions from our
users - barely any - this was far more seamless than I expected.

Jonathan Bernstein


Re: Is the Calendar public to the entire group?

 

Hi

In Settings, scroll down to Features, Calendar.
Check that subscribers can view. ?Pick Subscribers can view, moderators can edit.

If you wish them to edit as well, check that one - subscribers can view and edit.

Frances
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