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Jed,

When someone sends a private reply to a message, is there any way to
make that reply visible on the message thread on the website (only for
the sender and receiver, of course)?

I don't believe so. I think "private" might be better described as "offlist" or "direct". Nor is it logged anywhere.

As a sender, if you want to keep a copy you need to use the BCC Me checkbox.

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Apologies if this has been addressed before, I searched but could not find an answer on this forum or the beta forum.? When someone sends a private reply to a message, is there any way to make that reply visible on the message thread on the website (only for the sender and receiver, of course)?? One of our moderators created a hashtag with the option "Reply to sender".? She has gotten email replies, but those replies are not visible on the website, neither when looking at the topic, nor the hashtag.? I've gone back and noticed the same thing for private replies to messages I've sent out, that they do not seem to be present anywhere in the archive.? Not a huge deal, but was just wondering if I missed anything. Thanks.

McAfee did not like it, and it screwed up my Firefox Home page.
Now, how do I get rid of it?
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When I first started our group Chat was activated, but I turned it off so our members could get used to the new group interface first. Before I turned it off one member tried to use it, and I only found that out by accident several days later while exploring our group functions. Back in the day when I used to use Y chat I had a few favorite chat rooms, and I could see how many people were in them before joining in. These rooms appeared to be open 24 hours a day with some level of activity, mainly because there were so many people that liked these rooms. I haven't used chat in a couple decades now, and I think it might not be as popular as it used to be, because there are other, more interactive ways for people to get together. I think if I was going to use chat in our group now, I would first tell the group in advance through a post, that on a certain day, at a certain time of the day, a chat room would be open to talk about anything or something specific they might want to chat about. Chatting fell out of favor for me after a while, for the same reason I don't text with people today. I like to actually talk to people, not type to them in real time.

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Shal thanks. I will think if I want to use gmail. I don't care for it really. I have it set up on my yahoo account where my gmail goes there also. If it will stop the letters going into spam I might give it a try. I have always liked my yahoo email the best. That could be changing. ? Anita

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Today I received a message from the support team: the problem was caused by a bug and this bug has been smashed.

Chat entries are not sent via email, they only show up within the chat.? I suspect the email you got was a reply to the announcement that a chat was started.? To participate, select Chats from the left menu on the group, then select the chat you want to join.? There's a box at the bottom for entering the information to post, then click Send on the right to add it to the chat box for all to see.? It's not fancy and could use some additions/changes, but works.

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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 02:44 AM, <kesaiserris@...> wrote:

I was able to start a chat no problem. One of my members responded to the chat and I was able to read her response via my email but when I visit the group itself I only see my initial post.

If you received an email from someone it's because that person posted an email. That person did not respond using the chat function.

I see that two additional members have joined but have no idea if they have responded as I didn't receive an email and cannot view the chat in its entirety. I see absolutely nothing to click on to open up the chat.

If you actually succeeded in creating a chat, it should be listed among the open chats in your group. It is also entirely possible to join a chat and not post to it...and people often do that, just to see what's going on.

Is the chat feature ready yet? If so would you consider putting a more obvious button so that one could view responses? Will all responses go to my email? Is email the only way to read the chat?

Chat activity does not generate any emails. One must log into groups.io to initiate one, post to it, and return to monitor it online periodically.?

You seem to be expecting to receive notifications like Facebook. Personally, I would not want groups.io to send me an email every time someone posts to the chat. But if that's the expected behavior, it is already available using normal group posts in conjunction with the "mute" and "follow" functions.

Hope this helps,
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kesaiserris,

Is the chat feature ready yet?

I haven't used it, but others in GMF have posted about it.
/g/GroupManagersForum/search?q=chat

If so would you consider putting a more obvious button so that one
could view responses?

GMF is a user-to-user group, no one in GMF works for Groups.io. The official "suggestion box" is the beta group:


But I would suggest waiting a bit to see if anyone here replies with more knowledge of chat in Groups.io. The official Help page has nothing about Chat yet, so a member here has started some notes in our Wiki. I don't think it answers your questions, but it is a start.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Chat-Overview

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I have recently started a group at Groupsio

David,

They do say you learn something new every day, so you have. :-)

Indeed. And I'm sharing the knowledge:

(click "Show message history" if the result table is initially hidden)

I have been using this for years in Yahoo, and it is extremely useful
for saving the admin from having to forward lots of replies to someone
else.

Remember this is an announcement group, as that may make a difference.

An interesting thing is that I didn't find this behavior in the Y!Groups equivalent of an Announcement Group - one with the Who can post? row in the Access Settings table set to Moderators Only.

But I did find that behavior, and more, in Discussion groups. Refer to the table in the cited message. Very surprising.

In the original Yahoo Groups, the sender's e-mail address was in the
From: header and there was no Reply-To: header.

From some old messages tucked away in my email folders I can confirm that for groups with their Reply To set to Sender. The groups in question allowed member posting.

I didn't find any examples of Reply-To being present (pre-DMARC) in those groups, but I don't think that's meaningful - yours isn't a use case that would be particularly likely in a Freecycle-style group (the only ones I was in that were set Reply To Sender).

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Steve,

Is there a setting to send a message when photos are posted?

No.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/10254

I don't expect to see that feature until the long-awaited Notification Overhaul.


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Is there a setting to send a message when photos are posted?

Anita,

I have a yahoo email I am using here on my groups. Lately when I write
a letter it comes back into my spam folder.

Someone else reported that behavior in Y!Mail recently.

I quickly move it out of there.

That's good.

Y!Mail is among the services known to send a notice to Groups.io (causing your unsubscription) if you mark a message as Spam. I don't know if they're guilty of the AOL sin of doing so even when you simply fail to remove a message from Spam before it auto-deletes, but just as well to head that off. Also, marking them as not-Spam will likely cause the filter to learn not to divert such messages - after a while.

I am wondering why it is going into spam when it didn't do this
before.

There was a time (years ago) when spammers tended to put your address in both the From: and To: fields of their messages. I guess they thought you would naturally open something that came from yourself. A lot of email services started treating such messages as Spam, notwithstanding the legit case of a message returning from an email list.

As to "why now", who can say? Email services are constantly tweaking their spam filters to try and keep up with the onslaught.

Is it better to use a gmail for iogroups?

I think it is better to use gmail, period. But then I'm a Gmail user so of course I'm biased. You might not like it, to each his/her own.

Is yahoo giving iogroups problems?

I doubt they're doing anything directed at Groups.io specifically.

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Tony King wrote:

Reducing the size (e.g. pixels) of album photos? I use webresizer.com

Still, you have to download, delete, and re-upload the photos to the album in your group. Which is a bit of a pain.

I see no red-flags for their site, but I'm always a bit leery of using free (ad-supported) services. There's an old truism that "if you're not paying for it you're the product, not the customer".

Ages ago I bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop Elements for this purpose and it has served me well. These days tools that come with your operating system can likely do that for you as well.

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I have a yahoo email I am using here on my groups. Lately when I write a letter it comes back into my spam folder. I quickly move it out of there. I am not bouncing.
I am wondering why it is going into spam when it didn't do this before.
Is it better to use a gmail for iogroups? Is yahoo giving iogroups problems?

Thanks

Anita?

Hi all,

This week's change log covers two weeks:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

NEW: Bulk topic actions.

Not ready for prime time. For group moderators only

Available for testing by appending -test to the URL in the address bar while looking at the Topics list. As in:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topics-test
(but use your own group name instead)

It adds checkboxes to the left of each topic subject, and four buttons at the top of the list for bulk operations on the selected topics. Delete, Merge, Hashtags (add or remove), and More (Moderate, Lock, and Make Sticky). Each of the latter two menus have Apply and Cancel buttons at the bottom, so make sure you scroll down to that to apply the selected functions.

If you feel like testing the bulk features, please report issues or suggestions here:

CHANGE: For Reply To Sender groups, we don't delete any existing
Reply-to headers.

Color me shocked. This relates to a topic here in GMF where David M made some allegations about Y!Groups' behavior which I disbelieved. Not only are some of them true, but I found some even more surprising than ones he mentioned.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/23196172

CHANGE: Some domains will sometimes reply to emails with '550 This IP
has sent too many messages this hour. IB504'. We now treat those as
temporary errors instead of permanent errors, and retry again in an
hour.

Pet peeve: email services who violate the standards for error codes.

5xx is supposed to be for /permanent/ errors - defined as situations where the message should not be re-sent until human intervention has corrected the problem. For "re-try later" situations they are supposed to use a 4xy code.

This became a big problem for Y!Groups many years ago when email services started issuing 5xy codes for senders found on dynamic black lists. What part of the word "dynamic" did they not understand?

Yeah, I know, these rejections are just polite ways of saying "We think you're a spammer, go away" and that's why they issue a no-retry code. Still, I think they're abusing the reply coding scheme.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

INTERNAL: Verifying DKIM sigs of inbound emails, currently in testing

only.

BUGFIX: In some instances, when upgrading a group to premium with the
annual plan, the monthly plan was selected instead.
SYSADMIN: Fix time sync in the Groups.io machine cluster. Very
embarassing.
BUGFIX: Use the user's timezone when generating the 'On such and such'
line for message replies.
NEW: Scanning emails, files and photos for viruses/phishing. Currently
in testing.
NEW: Ability for members to repost messages, with configurable
parameters, for premium groups.
NEW: Google map view for database tables with address columns, for
premium groups.
NEW: JSON export format for database tables, and the ability to create
new tables from these exports.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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