Sharon,
The Reply To links are dynamically generated for each message.? It would not be possible to put them in a group footer.? You could in the beta group that those links be added to the plain text footer.
I agree that both footers should provide the same links (odd that they do not).
More info on footers here if you haven't found it yet ->?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers#Unformatted-28plain-text29-Individual-Message
Thanks
Toby

PS I notice the Beta group uses plain text.? The GMF group uses html.??

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On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 09:34 am, Jean Coffinberry wrote:

I applied to start a Yahoo group transfer over 24 hours ago and have not heard back about making GIO an admin to further the transfer process.
Is there a way to confirm that I am in the queue for this?

You will receive an email at the +owner address of your new group when that point of the process is reached.

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/6662?

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I applied to start a Yahoo group transfer over 24 hours ago and have not heard back about making GIO an admin to further the transfer process.
Is there a way to confirm that I am in the queue for this?
Thanks,?

jean

The reason for using Reply-To: is that most of the members just reply
to messages, even when the content of the message states to contact
someone else. Reply-To: takes it out of their hands.

Yes, you might be changing the reply default, however although I have my groups set up to “Reply to Sender”, many people do what they have to in order to reply to the group instead.

That said, I agree that your best bet is still to have your group set to “Reply to Sender”, and have the person who wants the replies send the message.

What is the protection that a third party Reply-To email address wants the replies?
Why would Groups.io want to enable such a SPAMMING prone tool?

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How do I figure out what the links are for these in order to add them back to the footer for a group with plain text messages?

When I click on the links, they do what they are supposed to do so I can’t see the link.

The new footers have my subscribers talking about how great YahooGroups was. It’s rose-colored glasses but it is the lack of a reply to sender that is the big complaint right now. To use the reply on website, they have to sign in and most have never done that.

Sharon
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As a native Spanish speaker, I would love to help groups.io be available in other languages.
I have members who cannot understand what the platform says but they would be very engaged in the topics.

Received from David M at 7/10/2018 09:05 AM UTC:

It may be useful for those with good intentions, but it's a bad thing because it overrides the settings the Owner/Moderator thought he was making when deciding whether responses should be directed to the group or to the author being replied to. And - as one example - imagine engaging (foolishly) in a "candid" discussion about your boss and then have someone set the boss as the "Reply-to:" address.

You too seem to have overlooked that this is an announcement group. Only the admin can send messages to it, and any replies go only to the admin. If the admin chooses to add a Reply-To: for an individual message, this is a good thing, because it saves him/her having to forward all the incoming replies to someone else.

I overlooked nothing.

If subscribers to any group - announcement or discussion or whatever - expect replies to go only to the admin... or to the group... or to the poster being replied to... then I think it's improper to allow the admin or a subscriber to direct them elsewhere via embedded "Reply-to:" headers. Granted any party receiving email from the group is capable of redirecting it manually, but I think Groups.io shouldn't become a party to it.

Anyone is currently capable of forwarding messages they receive to anyone they want to, and I believe that's how Groups.io should require them to handle the sort of message redirection you're asking for. That also (usually) provides a record of WHO caused the redirect. That's also a good thing.

Expanding on my concern... when I left Y!, I left Y! behind. Groups.io is what it is... and what it is is better by far than Y! in more areas than reliability. Groups.io can be improved - the search facility currently being discussed is one example - but I'd rather not see some of the bad aspects of Y! brought to Groups.io just because some found them convenient on Y!.

Jim H

Received from David M at 7/10/2018 09:10 AM UTC:

The reason for using Reply-To: is that most of the members just reply to messages, even when the content of the message states to contact someone else. Reply-To: takes it out of their hands.

David

In that EXACT situation --- responders being clearly told in every message to reply to Person X, and only Person X's email address is in this "Reply-to:" that you want to add --- the "Reply-to:" you want wouldn't be a problem.

HOWEVER... a potential problem arises when Groups.io makes this facility available to people who don't make it clear that a response won't go to the location that responders expect it to go. That creates the potential for abuse. There's no need to create this potential when there are other ways ---
admittedly less convenient --- to forward this email. Or perhaps Person X could send the announcements in the first place and you could set the group to reply only to the OP (Person X).

Was this abused on Y!? I can say from personal experience that abuse was attempted, but failed due to the responders being situationally aware.

Jim H

Another way to approach this problem is: what are the criteria for io to decide if the yahoogroup name I enter for a transfer is valid or not? Are these criteria detailed somewhere? Is this group name field case-sensitive?

Hi Bruce, I've been using one email address only, all the time, and there are no pending transfers. There's no reasonable explanation for the error message.

Kind regards,
Heijo

Received from Shal Farley at 7/9/2018 07:33 AM UTC:

David,

In Yahoo Groups, I could put a Reply-To: header in the message I sent, and when people replied, it would go to that address.

I thought I knew Y!Groups inside and out, but this is a new one on me.

I don't know if there may be some combinations of settings that prevents this from working, but it has worked for all my old Y! groups for many years.

It may be useful for those with good intentions, but it's a bad thing because it overrides the settings the Owner/Moderator thought he was making when deciding whether responses should be directed to the group or to the author being replied to. And - as one example - imagine engaging (foolishly) in a "candid" discussion about your boss and then have someone set the boss as the "Reply-to:" address.

You too seem to have overlooked that this is an announcement group. Only the admin can send messages to it, and any replies go only to the admin. If the admin chooses to add a Reply-To: for an individual message, this is a good thing, because it saves him/her having to forward all the incoming replies to someone else.

I'm glad Groups.io inserts a "Reply-to:" header that I assume overwrites any "Reply-to:" a sender may insert.

But it doesn't always! Look at the headers.

In the context of discussion groups where the Owner is given a setting to determine reply-to behavior, the Yahoo behavior is "broken." I'd hope Groups.io never considers implementing it.

As I said, this is an announcement group...

David

David, Seems to me that you are acting as a message relay for your announcement-only group. So you get an email from some other organization and then post it to your group - but you don't want any replies.

Not at all. I am a person who sends announcements. Some of those announcements relate to other people, and they are the ones who need to see the replies.

Have you looked at the Email integration feature which would allow you to create a receive-only email address that posts to your group? You subscribe the receive-only email address to the other org's mail list and Boom! you're out of the relay business... This would work if you want to relay all emails from the org's mail list to the group and it's okay for the group members to deal with the announcement and contact the other org without doing a reply to the announcement email. You could put a message in the footer reminding them.

What you are proposing is a discussion group afaics, but more complicated. It would also be open to spamming I imagine.

The reason for using Reply-To: is that most of the members just reply to messages, even when the content of the message states to contact someone else. Reply-To: takes it out of their hands.

David

Understood. I only need it for one group at the moment.

Thanks again,
Mike

Mike,

I've set up a Group Transfer membership for my group.

Note that the plan is tied to the group, not to the owner/mod who happened to pay for it.

Shal


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Thanks. I've set up a Group Transfer membership for my group.

-Mike

Mike,

If they are having technical difficulties, can I manually
add them to my group? If so, how?

You can if you upgrade your group to the Premium plan. Premium (and Enterprise) groups have a Direct Add page.
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If you click the Upgrade button in the Admin set of pages that will show you the plan you're on. Click the View/Change Plan button to see what your options are. I've used the Group Transfer (Premium For One Month) plan in my PTA group to handle the influx of members every year at school registration.

Shal


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Find the link at the top in the nav bar labeled ?I think “admin” Activate that and it will expand, or should.?Then you will find the options you need