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Re: Just Curious
Michael,
How can someone look back and see which of their messages wereFind one of your own (or anyone's) messages, then from the More menu (in the bar below the message) select "All Posts By This Member". Or open your profile from the group's Directory page (if available) and select that same link. Incidentally, that "posterid:" number that shows in the Search box when you do that is system-wide. You can use it to find that person's messages in any group. Posterid:3 is Mark Fletcher, posterid:129 is me (the two I've used enough to remember). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Just Curious
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/g/GroupManagersForum/topics Or better yet /g/GroupManagersForum/messages and search for her email address But the only the results I got were: #9986 #9963 How can someone look back and see which of their messages were accepted by GMF and sent out? On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: |
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Re: User deleting own post
Dano,
But a person with enough money or will to afford a lawyer can make anIn the cases at hand (email list archives) the copyright owner may not need a lawyer, at least in the U.S. - the take-down provisions of the DMCA/OCILLA may suffice. But not if the poster is equally steely-eyed and demands a put-back. At that point the copyright holder must decide to file suit or let it go. I can see why Mark has continued to let posters retain control ofDon't get me wrong, I'm glad that he has. But given the TOS's license provisions he doesn't really need to. At least not in straightforward cases. On the other hand it might spare him an infringement notice if a user infringes a third-party's copyright, and the user himself comes to understand/regret their action and chooses to delete the offending content him/herself. The user might rightly fear having their own account closed for the TOS violation, and thereby lose control of their own content. By the way, registration is no longer required for most copyrightRegistration is not required to make use of the DMCA's take-down provisions. But it is required (in the U.S.) to file the actual infringement suit, and as I said prompt registration ("before the infringement began or within three months after the first publication") is required to be awarded statutory damages. And I see, also attorney's fees: Oh, and the usual IANAL disclaimer goes here. But I have done my reading and this is far from my first rodeo where concerns arguing about how copyright applies to email list postings. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Just Curious - Receiving your own posts in Gmail
Joseph,
Yes that¡¯s Xbox is on by default, however, if you¡¯re wanting to receive postings from other mailing list, that are not associated with this website, if you put the word recent before the email address in your email client, that will also help you receive your own postings.I used that for many years with Yahoo Groups to no avail. I used POP3 protocol with Eudora Classic and with Thunderbird and had recent in the address field: no joy. Nor of course on Gmail's web interface. I know I was using "recent" correctly because I could retrieve the same messages from multiple computers - which is the real feature enabled by "recent". Every suggestion I've tried has always turned out to be a misunderstanding of one kind or another, and the person suggesting it wasn't actually seeing the message as returned from the group - with the group's footers (and possibly edits by a moderator). They were seeing the copy they sent to the group, or they were actually sending the message from a different address, or from the Group's interface, or something. Anyway, I've set that all behind me. I simply don't use Gmail with mailing lists - except Groups.io due to the work-around. I've read that there are other list services that replace the Message-ID field, so I could join one of those with my Gmail address if I happened upon it. Even now, with Groups.io, I have to keep a second address subscribed to groups I moderate/own set up to receive +owner messages. Because if I happen to reply to a +owner message with CC to +owner (which I habitually do so that the other mods will see my reply) I won't get that reply back in my Gmail account. Apparently Groups.io doesn't catch that case. Hm... Maybe I should write that up as a suggestion for beta. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Just Curious
Patty,
Well I made an attempt to answer this privately but see no reply toIf you mean on the web site, after you click Reply there should be a "Private" button below and to the right of the message composition box. Clicking that will toggle between "Reply to Group" and "Reply to Sender". If you mean by email, there should be a "Reply to Sender" link under the message, if the message was formatted. Plain text messages and digests lack that feature; you'd have to copy/paste the sender's email address from the original to your reply. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Chat Room Problem: Chat text entered in the entry box sometimes does not appear in the Chat Dialog
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Bill,
Any suggestions or recommendations? Could this be a bug, slowYeah, definitely one of those. ;-) I wish there were someone who uses Chat in their groups who would chime in with their own experience (positive or negative). It seems like a bug so reporting it to [email protected] is appropriate. Mark will wish you could characterize a repeatable test case, but I don't know what to suggest for that - it may not be possible. Give him as much detail as you can, including specific times that it happened if you know that. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Notification of Files Uploaded
Sharon,
Do others think it might be helpful to have a universal option toI wouldn't want notification to the list in any of my groups, but some might, especially those who use the files for some specific purpose. A question by the option about who can upload files so it notifies theI definitely want contribution notices (Files, Photos, Wiki, ...) as Notifications options in my subscription as an owner/mod. But I would want it to be an option for each owner/mod to receive such notices, not a universal setting. In beta that's been talked about as a component of the "notification overhaul" that's been on the To Do list seemingly forever. Separately (and it is a different topic) would be the ability to moderate such contributions as we can moderate messages. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?
Patty,
Shal, that I know, on an individual message. What I would like to do,In the Members list you can put a checkmark on any number of members to send to them all at once, using either From address. But I guess that idea is moot since Bruce tells us that the Send Message action is not available in the Past Members list. Hoping the # of folks being auto unsubbed slows down, and that this isThat seems fairly likely to me. Many Y!Groups users became very frustrated with the various failures in Y!Groups, especially there was a prolonged period (pre Neo) when it was all but impossible to unsubscribe from a group. The advice at the time was to go No Email until unsubscribe worked again, but many probably just marked the messages as spam as a lazy filter. And then your new group starts up and they finally get the unsubscribe they wanted all along. ;-) Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: loading pdf files
Pam,
?It would be interesting to know just what said the file can't be read. There are multiple possibilities (the site, your browser, a PDF plug-in for your browser, your operating system...)? It may be that a screen shot would be worth more than a thousand words here. It is possible that somehow your files aren't being marked as PDF content when uploaded to Groups.io. In the Files list, what is the icon to the left of the file name? It should be a page with PDF inside. If it has a ? inside that's a big clue to the problem. Then it becomes a question of why Groups.io did not think the file was actually PDF. Also, does the file name end with ".pdf"? If not you might try renaming the file
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?That's interesting. And disproves most ideas about issues with your browser configuration. Do you mean that clicking on the file name in GMF's Files section causes your browser to open the file directly in your browsing tab or window? or does your browser prompt you to choose an app to open the file or save it? For me, also on Windows 10, both Firefox and Edge open the pdf in the browser. ?
?Current browsers usually include PDF display in browser. But they can be configured to run a browser extension, or to request that you open the file with an app or save it instead.? The in-browser display of PDF files in Edge and current versions of Firefox do not use Reader DC or other application software to show you the PDF file. ?Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Just Curious - Receiving your own posts in Gmail
Donald, I see you have a Gmail account, and there is a setting in Gmail that ?I keep reading this rumor, but so far no one has ever managed to show me a Gmail setting or use case that actually lets me see my own messages returned. I am not sure where that setting is, but I set mine a long time ago to ?There is the My Posts setting in the ?Preferences page of your Groups.io account. When checked it implements a work-around to Gmail's "feature" - replaces the Message ID of messages you posted when they are addressed back to you. That makes it no longer "the same message" in Gmail's algorithms. But IIRC that checkbox is on by default, so that shouldn't be an issue for people who've never seen it. ?Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Answering Messages In Digest Mode With the Braille Note 4
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?Mobile devices are already finicky enough, I can scarcely imagine what it is like ?dealing with it in Braille. Anyway, assuming that she's clicked through to the group's web site (and is not looking for an edit field in the summary email itself), and found a reply link for the appropriate message, not being able to then find a field like the edit box sounds like an issue with how the site page is presented on that device.
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That could be a question of user education, or it could be that the HTML of the site could be improved to make it work better for such devices. Mark has worked with several people to get screen-readers to work better, and this may be a similar situation. I'd suggest having the member write to [email protected] directly about it.
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