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Re: Is there a way to re-send a poll

 

On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 06:49 PM, Kristin Semmelmeyer wrote:
I run a group with some not-computer-savvy seniors in it.
I just wanted to say that I have had people just respond the usual way - in an email - rather than using the poll widget.
If that happens for just a few, it isn't a big deal, in my opinion.?

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Re: Is there a way to re-send a poll

 

On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 05:49 PM, Kristin Semmelmeyer wrote:
Is there a way I can send the poll link out to people again (without starting over with the poll)?
Not easily.? I think the closest you could get would be to send them a link to the message.? (They have to go online to vote anyway, so this would be practice for that.)
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Re: Is there a way to re-send a poll

 

On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 06:49 PM, Kristin Semmelmeyer wrote:
I run a group with some not-computer-savvy seniors in it. ?I sent out a poll but some said they didn't see it. ?Is there a way I can send the poll link out to people again (without starting over with the poll)?
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Here's one way.
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Can you see it in messages archive on your site??
You can open that post and click on the # number to get the link URL.
Then send that out again.?
It keeps the previous votes.?
The group members who have voted will have the option of changing their votes.
Others can vote.

The issue is that they must click through to the group homepage to vote.?
Here is the Help page for members on voting.
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You might remind them about using Email Me A Link To Login if they don't have a password set.
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Is there a way to re-send a poll

 

I run a group with some not-computer-savvy seniors in it. ?I sent out a poll but some said they didn't see it. ?Is there a way I can send the poll link out to people again (without starting over with the poll)?
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Thank you,
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Kristin


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

I completely agree with that. I receive hundreds of GIO messages every day, and I try really hard to follow all threads in which I am interested or have to administer, and a good number of the messages have zero context because the message to which the poster is responding has been deleted.

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[Moderator Note: I will allow this message to post, but this thread probably needs to end. We all have our own preferences and imposing them on each other is not what GMF is about.]
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Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

Thank you all for your explanations.? I am thinking it through and will try some variations.? Emily


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 12:22 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
for each response, you can see the?portion?of the thread that they responded to
Not unless they include it.? If they respond from the site, the default is to not include anything.? I seldom include any reference, but do my reading online, so not a problem.
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Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

As I stated, for each response, you can see the?portion?of the thread that they responded to, which usually suffices for understanding the context of what they sent.?

Unless you throw away the emails you don't read, you can always go back and read the other emails if you need to, so it's not always the case that you need to go back to the website to read the full history of the discussion.

Anyway, I suppose this comes down to personal taste in the end, and I just wanted to point out that some folks like the untrimmed messages.

-P.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 8:57?AM Bruce Bowman via <bowman46118=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 08:47 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
FWIW, I like seeing the full history of the current thread up to the msg that the member is responding to.
This is the usual argument, but it doesn't really hold water.
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One person posts a message. Five people reply to it. They may quote the original, but they don't quote each other. You've already lost 67% of the thread.
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I don't want to overstate this, and acknowledge that it's all but unavoidable. But the fact remains that the only way to see a topic in full context is to read it online.
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Regards,
Bruce


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

I do find this odd, purely my own observation over many years of mailing lists, having been a list owner of several under rootsweb and currently under groups.io and having been a subscriber to many more on a variety of subjects, I can almost name the few who bottom post or reply with interspersed comments

Bottom posting is by far the most annoying, interspersed replies are okay once but once that is again replied to it loses any meaning

The norm for many years has been to top post leaving just enough of the message you are replying to, to keep the reply in context

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

The most you can do if you are the owner of the group, is to ban TOFU/top-posting and insist that members use the proper "old-fashioned" interspersing-method.
groetjes/?is, Ronaldo


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 09:05 PM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:

Is there are setting so that the original message is automatically stripped
from the reply?
Alas, the autotrim only works on digests.

The most you can do if you are the owner of the group, is to ban TOFU/top-posting and insist that members use the proper "old-fashioned" interspersing-method.


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 08:47 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
FWIW, I like seeing the full history of the current thread up to the msg that the member is responding to.
This is the usual argument, but it doesn't really hold water.
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One person posts a message. Five people reply to it. They may quote the original, but they don't quote each other. You've already lost 67% of the thread.
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I don't want to overstate this, and acknowledge that it's all but unavoidable. But the fact remains that the only way to see a topic in full context is to read it online.
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Regards,
Bruce


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

Hi Emily

May I ask what is the reason for not wanting any previous text of the message being replied to?

Our groups all have different needs but without a little of the previous message at least the context is lost and in the groups archives its difficult to follow a thread without it

So just wondered what your needs were?

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 23/03/2025 19:22, Emily Rosenberg via groups.io wrote:
Is there are setting so that the original message is automatically stripped from the reply? I suspect it might be because some people's


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 08:05 PM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:
Is there are setting so that the original message is automatically stripped from the reply?
Have at least some of the previous message can be extremely useful in providing context to what is being said.? The extra message text does not count towards your storage allocation so you don't need to worry about that. I have a feeling you are making more work for yourself than is necessary.
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Regards
Andy


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

Emily -
To better understand your situation, I'm curious why you're editing the messages. Groups.io automatically hides most of the quoted material beyond the post being replied to. What does remain is often useful to the reader when opening the message separately. Since the amount of material in the message archives doesn't count against group space allocations, is this just for appearance in the archives?
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Is there are setting so that the original message is automatically stripped from the reply? I suspect it might be because some people's email is set up to include original messages and I wont be able to change that so I am hoping groups.io lets me get it automated. Right no I am editing those messages to remove the original and it is not something I want to do.


Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 07:47 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
Since the latest response appears on top, the history is easily ignored
There is no default location for replies online.? In email, it depends on how the person has their program set up.? The quoted part can be on the top, bottom, or none.
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Duane
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Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

FWIW, I like seeing the full history of the current thread up to the msg that the member is responding to. If you hate it, you can just eliminate the history for responses that you yourself create.

Since the latest response appears on top, the history is easily ignored, so I don't see why it's a big deal. The reason I like it is that it supplies context if I have not followed every preceding message.?

-P.?

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025, 4:18?PM Bruce Bowman via <bowman46118=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 04:05 PM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:
Is there are setting so that the original message is automatically stripped from the reply?
There is no such setting, nor is there a setting to always include it. The person replying decides; hopefully complying with any preferences mentioned in your group Guidelines.
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For what it's worth, bottom-quoted text is stripped from messages that appear in a digest.?
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Here in GMF, if someone gets carried away, we moderators will often remove an over-quote, substituting a brief message explaining what was done. We hope this serves as a reminder of our expectations (I was going to say it's a "deterrent," but that sounds a little too harsh).
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Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Reply to group keeps including the original message

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 04:05 PM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:
Is there are setting so that the original message is automatically stripped from the reply?
There is no such setting, nor is there a setting to always include it. The person replying decides; hopefully complying with any preferences mentioned in your group Guidelines.
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For what it's worth, bottom-quoted text is stripped from messages that appear in a digest.?
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Here in GMF, if someone gets carried away, we moderators will often remove an over-quote, substituting a brief message explaining what was done. We hope this serves as a reminder of our expectations (I was going to say it's a "deterrent," but that sounds a little too harsh).
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Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Pending message stay in owner box even after they have been approved

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 04:19 PM, Frances wrote:
All the messages that I approve and that are for "reply to group" are accumulating in my pending mail box. Can you direct me to the setting where I can have them go away once they are approved?
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If you mean your personal email inbox, you can delete them.
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BTW, I don't keep any messages unless I want to save one to think about it and respond later. I rely on the message archive in my groups to re-read anything I want to.?
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Re: Pending message stay in owner box even after they have been approved

 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 04:05 PM, Emily Rosenberg wrote:
All the messages that I approve and that are for "reply to group" are accumulating in my pending mail box. Can you direct me to the setting where I can have them go away once they are approved?
"my pending mail box" - pending messages disappear on the group website once the messages are dealt with - approved or delete etc. ?I don't know why they are accumulating in your pending mail box (on the group page?).?
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Note that they disappear automatically after 14 days if not claimed by an owner/moderator or dealt with.
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Look in Activity to see whether or not you are properly moderating these messages.?
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Is it possible you set this feature -?
Automatically Moderate Topics Older Than [n] Days
To put topics on moderation automatically after a specific length of time, select this checkbox and specify the number of days after which topics should be moderated.
Note: The moderation becomes effective overnight, U.S. Pacific Time, after the specified number of days have elapsed.
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Frances
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